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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by Guest » Sat May 30, 2020 6:58 am

No worries, mate. Rhodesia turned out just fine. As goes Rhodesia, so goes America. KARMA.

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by RHD » Sat May 30, 2020 5:13 am

I live in a small village in NW London, we have a nice independent opticians that has recently opened which is run by a South African husband and wife team. Whilst having an eye consultation I asked why they had left sunny SA for rainy cold old Britain?

His reply was really quite chilling, He told me that they had lived in a lovely community near CT, their neighbours who were an elderly white couple had employed a black SA gardener for nearly thirty years and looked upon him as a trusted friend.

One afternoon on return from a trip to CT they found the police in attendance at their gated community, when asked what had happened they were told the gardener had been caught stealing from the house and when confronted he had shot the old man and then proceeded to rape his wife in front of her dying husband!

He could tell from the look on my face how shocked I was and he said "So you see that was the last straw for us, I would rather have the rain on my back in the UK than the sun on my grave in SA!

Same sort of behaviour underway in the USA.

A salutary lesson I think!

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by Londonistan » Sat May 30, 2020 4:49 am

Image

Oh, how the golem turns.

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by Guest » Sat May 30, 2020 1:56 am

Gerald Celente says America is heading for a civil war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HaokwZGPjw

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by Guest » Sat May 30, 2020 1:09 am

By the way. To consider anything I've posted as SJW is a really poor deduction on your part. I don't know that anything I've posted would ever fit into any SJW narrative.
It was your self-righteous and conspiratorial tone that makes me believe you are as SJW type. Right wing or left wing, you are wrong.

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by Guest » Fri May 29, 2020 10:23 pm

As for scrat in the hat: I would like to add my own two cents.

I grew up during the Vietnam war in a house full of war veterans going back to World War One. I have never heard Tet described as a communist victory. The US military won virtually ever battle. My understanding has always been that the war was hijacked by a vocal and violent minority made up of student radicals and societal drop-outs (hippies). The press was generally pessimistic about the war, but I don't remember "everyone" being anti-war. The loud mouths won.

The history books I have read on it agree with me. I don't know how someone in their 60s could come away from that period thinking this way. America was divided, but I don't remember it they way he/she does.

I also don't believe that historians always whitewash history to please governments. That's why the West was called "The Free World."

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by ScratInTheHat » Fri May 29, 2020 6:41 pm

Guest wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 1:38 am
Of course there is a concerted effort to distort history! Just one example is the Tet offensive in 1968. It is still thought of as a loss for the US and the South when it was one of the biggest victories in the war.
Ah, NO. I graduated with a history degree from the Citadel, and I was taught that Tet was a victory for the US.( I took that course in the 1980s.) I have also read that Tet was an American victory in history books and have seen it declared a victory in documentaries on the Vietnam War. Militarily, it was a victory. How the media spun it is something else. The books I have read on it all point out the massive losses that the VC suffered. They didn't seemed to be swayed by the media.

No, history is not entirely a whitewash from the beginning. It's not. There are credible sources like Tacitus, for example.
History is whitewashed all the time. It is written by whoever is in power at the time and for their benefit. It takes a few generations to shake out the trash if it ever does get removed. Then there is the injection of whoever is in power then.
America is not Russia or China. Plenty of American history right honestly, even when it conflicts with the American government. You are ridiculous. Since America began there have been books published that were critical of the American government. And if governments do decide the history, why did the American government fail to do it during the Vietnam War?

And historians in other countries, even under brutal regimes, have still managed to record history correctly. You're being extreme. Is this what they taught you a SJW U?

You don't know what you are talking about.

How old are you?
I'm in my 60s. Old enough to stop talking to someone who resorts to insinuations that an opponent in a discussion doesn't know what they are talking about when it should be obvious that is not the case. I like the age question. That just shows who you are not anything about me.

I used to be a believer. Keep that dogma alive! Sorry to have stepped on it. My bad.

http://www.viet-myths.net/buitin.htm

Q: Was the American antiwar movement important to Hanoi's victory?
A: It was essential to our strategy. Support of the war from our rear was completely secure while the American rear was vulnerable. Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda, and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war and that she would struggle along with us.

By the way. To consider anything I've posted as SJW is a really poor deduction on your part. I don't know that anything I've posted would ever fit into any SJW narrative. But when you start slinging elbows it all gets messy doesn't it.

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by zzazz » Fri May 29, 2020 4:44 pm

You gotta love historians. In South Vietnam we had a long string of victories and then the North won.

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by Guest » Fri May 29, 2020 1:38 am

Of course there is a concerted effort to distort history! Just one example is the Tet offensive in 1968. It is still thought of as a loss for the US and the South when it was one of the biggest victories in the war.
Ah, NO. I graduated with a history degree from the Citadel, and I was taught that Tet was a victory for the US.( I took that course in the 1980s.) I have also read that Tet was an American victory in history books and have seen it declared a victory in documentaries on the Vietnam War. Militarily, it was a victory. How the media spun it is something else. The books I have read on it all point out the massive losses that the VC suffered. They didn't seemed to be swayed by the media.

No, history is not entirely a whitewash from the beginning. It's not. There are credible sources like Tacitus, for example.
History is whitewashed all the time. It is written by whoever is in power at the time and for their benefit. It takes a few generations to shake out the trash if it ever does get removed. Then there is the injection of whoever is in power then.
America is not Russia or China. Plenty of American history right honestly, even when it conflicts with the American government. You are ridiculous. Since America began there have been books published that were critical of the American government. And if governments do decide the history, why did the American government fail to do it during the Vietnam War?

And historians in other countries, even under brutal regimes, have still managed to record history correctly. You're being extreme. Is this what they taught you a SJW U?

You don't know what you are talking about.

How old are you?

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by ScratInTheHat » Thu May 28, 2020 11:45 pm

Guest wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 9:17 pm
ScratInTheHat wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 6:52 pm
Guest wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 9:27 am


The Black Death in the 1300s killed off half the population of England and led to the collapse of feudalism and massive wage rises among the common folks. I think that is more important than the Famine.
You missed the point of the post completely if you think I was just talking about magnitude.
No, I get it, but historical events are the results of other events. What you wrote wasn't new. And, yes, a lot of people know very little about history, but historians know quite a bit. Hollywood history is bad, but the average history book isn't. The agenda driven crowd twists history for their own purposes, but that has always happened.

Yes, history is a build up of events, and some events are "overshadowed", but it doesn't mean they are forgotten by historians. Archaeologists are always uncovering new information, but it doesn't mean that history had been purposely white washed before.
History is not this clean thing that most see it to be.
I've never met a historian that felt it was. The average person on the street these days might not have any interest in history, so he doesn't study it. That doesn't mean there has been a concerted effort to purposely distort it.
History is whitewashed all the time. It is written by whoever is in power at the time and for their benefit. It takes a few generations to shake out the trash if it ever does get removed. Then there is the injection of whoever is in power then.

Historians run in packs. Those packs have their dogmas. You have to read them all to get an idea of what really happened. That's mostly impossible since some things are just not known or can't be defined with certainty as one way or another. Archaeologists and Historians wind up at loggerheads all the time. When an Archaeologist finds a tomb in Egypt that should be from one dynasty but is built on top of a later dynasty does that change the history or create a loggerhead that lasts for years if it is ever resolved?

Of course there is a concerted effort to distort history! Just one example is the Tet offensive in 1968. It is still thought of as a loss for the US and the South when it was one of the biggest victories in the war. Walter Cronkite and the US media has the blood of every soldier killed after Tet on their hands. The North was close to going back to the peace talks until they saw how Tet was reported in the western press. Historians are never in agreement outside of the dogma they support and they fight tooth and nail to push the history they support.

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