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Cool Breeze
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John wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:25 pm
** 09-Oct-2021 World View: Deflationary era and Deflationary crash
Cool Breeze wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:25 am
> I have posted each decades USD purchasing power for 70 years. You
> talk about 4th grade math, but then use the word deflation,
> something we actually have never seen. For the twentieth time, do
> you know what the difference is between disinflation and
> deflation? If so, why do you keep using the term incorrectly?

> The inflation from the massive monetary base increase has gone to
> the stock market and also, the real estate markets.

> Why is it that I can actually explain this, in fact quite easily
> (just did), yet you and some others refuse to agree? When you
> don't answer that, please tell me how there ever has been
> deflation, when purchasing power (and yours) has eroded throughout
> (both of) our ENTIRE lives.
You prattle on and on, saying the same thing over and over. Not only
can you not do fourth grade math, you can't even do fourth grade reading.

I did not use the word "deflation." I don't know why this is so hard
to understand. I guess it's pretty subtle. Apparently you're
hallucinating it, since you keep referring to it even though it
doesn't exist. I've used the words "deflationary era" and
"deflationary crash," but not the word deflation.

I have defined a "deflationary era" as an era for you several times
(starting in 2003). It's characterized by high public debt, which
means that (unlike the 1970s) few people are willling to go further
into debt. I did not say that deflation occurs during the
deflationary era until the end of the era. (However, I note that we
did have deflation briefly in 2009.)

During the "deflationary era," inflation will remain low (I didn't say
deflation) and, furthermore, the high public debt leads to the second
outcome of a deflationary era, namely that it ends with a sharp
deflationary crash. Actual deflation (I'm using that word only now)
occurs at the end of the era.

Try reading that a few times before you post the same nonsense that
you've already posted dozens of times, and stop hallucinating stuff
that I haven't written.

I'll repeat some information that I've posted before that you may find
helpful, provided that you actually read it:

We're still roughly on the same path as 2008, and not even as high as
2008:

2008:
4.30, 4.03, 3.94, 3.92, 4.18, 4.99,
5.60, 5.38, 4.93, 3.67, 1.06, 0.11

2021:
1.40, 1.68, 2.62, 4.16, 4.99, 5.39,
5.37, 5.25

http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ww2010.i.cpi.htm

Late in 2008, the cpi began falling, and actually turned negative in
2009.

2009:
0.02, 0.23, -0.37, -0.73, -1.27, -1.42,
-2.10, -1.48, -1.29, -0.18, 1.84, 2.72

So here's the irony. You claim that "deflation [is] something we
actually have never seen." Apparently you're hallucinating that claim
as well. As you can see from the above figures, we have "seen"
deflation in 2009. And if you visit the page linked above, you'll see
that we have also "seen" deflation briefly in 2018.

But that's not the point. The point is that inflation is low during
the "deflationary era," although there may be some deflation, but the
real deflation will occur with the deflationary crash at the end.

I know that it's complicated and subtle, as are all the concepts in
Generational Dynamics, but if you read what I've written over and over
about ten times, you should be able to understand it.

I have read that post, and contradictories withstanding, you actually are stating what my thesis is, but are apparently too proud to admit that I am accurately describing it. The cost of living throughout your lifetime has GONE UP BIG. This is in spite of all major technological advances. That is NOT DEFLATIONARY.

If you are saying it is a debt era, fine. I agree.

Think harder, and counter my actual points. If you agree with me, say you agree. At least your last post was a better response, since it actually tries to be in line with my position, which is correct. But your ego still won't allow you to agree with me, and why, I do not know.

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Nice video on China's real estate bubble. Compares to US and Japanese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL55QDWYzGQ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk6G0nPioLs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X7pjPdbPX4
Harry Dent: It Just Got Worse...
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A couple YouTube channels which look at the economy from the "Main Street" as opposed to "Wall Street" view are:
I Allegedly
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcHtvx ... shelf_id=0
and Jeremiah Babe
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaJ-6I ... B7A/videos
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This argument is driving me crazy. It has gone so far that John has segregated me and Cool Breeze on the Mixer section. Me, I think we are facing two options, caused by absurd National Debt (even when measured against GDP). One is to default, the other is to inflate it away. My guess is we will inflate it away...but I could be wrong. After the Great Financial Crisis National Debt vs. GDP was bad, but not nearly as bad as after Covid. Last time we were (barely) able to do the balancing act, I will be astonished if we can pull it off this time. Exacerbating this is an Energy Crisis. The 70s Energy Crisis was caused by a cartel, this one is caused by the depletion of the easily (cheaply) available fossil fuels, coupled with the War Against Fossil Fuels which, (believing in anthropogenic global warming) I think is smart, and the War Against Nuclear Energy (which I think is idiotic). So I expect the Terrible Twenties to be the 1970s on steroids.
I will continue to post videos and articles on the current inflation on my topic thread, as well as the monthly CPI (next one Wednesday, then Nov 10, then Dec 10...). If I see anything supporting John's thesis, of course, I will post it there, but so far most of what I come across says runaway inflation.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iKhK9nJwSM
Labor Shortage Crisis: How This Will Soon Impact You
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"Government" is imploding from its own stupidity.
The dix lexis will be cured from the half wit demshevik voters.
Food or warmth is facing millions thanks to Brandon the magnificent.

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They slaughter people, including children, as a matter of policy.

Parents speaking out about their kids education are labelled domestic terrorists.

CRT is evil. CRT, emerged from a framework for legal analysis in the late 1970s.

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Other narratives of the trajectory of Marxism and education have traced the development
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/its-d ... nd-markets

Vin how would you play this on a tech analysis.
As we noted early and often even we seen it.
They started to move on this in July early and we trended since July 14th.
The Marxist whales already took some damage in the a$$ as we moved away from the zone some time ago
since its different this time is for the window lickers and crayon chewers who left us to be mangled
as if/then facts they stuck us with.
Brandon and His admins are window licking idiots.


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