Bear market?
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Bear market?
Worst December since 1931:
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... m-the-peak
Greenspan: Party over
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/business ... index.html
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... m-the-peak
Greenspan: Party over
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/business ... index.html
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
- Tom Mazanec
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Re: Bear market?
Seventy percent market fall starting?
https://banyanhill.com/exclusives/70-st ... /?z=974344
https://banyanhill.com/exclusives/70-st ... /?z=974344
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
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Re: Bear market?
I watched the 70% market fall prediction in the Banyan video. His reason, that the market has been manipulated by secret buyers of over $ 5 trillion sounds like a conspiracy theory, but in other ways may be true. The Shiller PE ratio has recently been around 33 now about 27. I can accept that the bubble has caused all sorts of and massive monetary creation through derivatives substantially hidden from view as was the case in 2007. And as we know bubbles do implode!! can accept that the correction would take the PE ratio below 10 which is roughly the same as a 70% drop but for different reasons. Simply lack of proper regulation allows large amounts of bubble and toxic assets to be created by lots of people.
Just to add to this point: In early 2007 I started looking for the underlying maths for Collateralised Debt Obligations (CDO's) and no one could tell me. The justification for CDO's was that they had passed AI's scrutiny, then the largest insurer in the USA. When I eventually found the maths and methodology I realised that there had been deep corruption of any semblance of financial morals: I sold all my equities and AI went insolvent.
I have no doubt that the same is true today in a completely different guise
Just to add to this point: In early 2007 I started looking for the underlying maths for Collateralised Debt Obligations (CDO's) and no one could tell me. The justification for CDO's was that they had passed AI's scrutiny, then the largest insurer in the USA. When I eventually found the maths and methodology I realised that there had been deep corruption of any semblance of financial morals: I sold all my equities and AI went insolvent.
I have no doubt that the same is true today in a completely different guise
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Re: Bear market?
Worst week for stocks since 2008 Crisis:
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... is-of-2008
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... is-of-2008
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
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Re: Bear market?
Treasury Secretary in Emergency Mode:
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... istmas-eve and http://thegreatrecession.info/blog/some ... way-comes/
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... istmas-eve and http://thegreatrecession.info/blog/some ... way-comes/
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
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Re: Bear market?
Dow 21,792.20 -653.17 / -2.91%
Maybe they will call this "Black December"?
Maybe they will call this "Black December"?
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
Re: Bear market?
I just heard on CNBC that this decline in the marketTom Mazanec wrote: > Dow 21,792.20 -653.17 / -2.91%
> Maybe they will call this "Black December"?
has been "very orderly."
If the decline becomes "disorderly," then that will
be an actual panic. It won't be "Black December" unless
there's a panic. Maybe on Thursday. (Then that will
be "Black Thursday.")
Re: Bear market?
On The economic front the Market news of the past ten days or so has been music to most Xers and Millies ears. The dislocation of the market collapse would for the most part not effect us that much because the younger generations do not have much money invested in the stock exchange. If it spreads to the housing market such a renewed crash would force boomers to sell their houses at bargain-basement prices. Politically this shakes globalism to its core. YOU LOSE BOOMERS AND GLOBALISTS.
Re: Bear market?
Every time you say something so stupid that I think that you couldn'tCH86 wrote: > On The economic front the Market news of the past ten days or so
> has been music to most Xers and Millies ears. The dislocation of
> the market collapse would for the most part not effect us that
> much because the younger generations do not have much money
> invested in the stock exchange. If it spreads to the housing
> market such a renewed crash would force boomers to sell their
> houses at bargain-basement prices. Politically this shakes
> globalism to its core. YOU LOSE BOOMERS AND GLOBALISTS.
possible say anything stupider, amazingly you find a way to prove me
wrong.
Re: Bear market?
It is Not stupid to say what I said: The collapse of globalism serves the average Xer or Millennials interest. Anything that Hurts globalism and shadowy banking exchanges generally helps younger people in the west as it hurts those boomers who have used their influence to exclude the young from access to Markets as well as access to politics. The destruction of the institutional "blockers" helps the Xer and Millennial because it makes those generations ability to achieve their goals much easier.John wrote:Every time you say something so stupid that I think that you couldn'tCH86 wrote: > On The economic front the Market news of the past ten days or so
> has been music to most Xers and Millies ears. The dislocation of
> the market collapse would for the most part not effect us that
> much because the younger generations do not have much money
> invested in the stock exchange. If it spreads to the housing
> market such a renewed crash would force boomers to sell their
> houses at bargain-basement prices. Politically this shakes
> globalism to its core. YOU LOSE BOOMERS AND GLOBALISTS.
possible say anything stupider, amazingly you find a way to prove me
wrong.
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