http://wmbriggs.com/post/25863/ which links to
http://wmbriggs.com/post/22687/ which in turn links to
http://wmbriggs.com/post/21659/ and http://wmbriggs.com/post/21739/ as well as http://wmbriggs.com/post/21609/
Why Strong AI is impossible
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Why Strong AI is impossible
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
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Re: Why Strong AI is impossible
Non-determination can not be imbued into an instrument by intellect.
But non-determination CAN be appropriated (hijacked) from a "being" and made an instrument by intellect.
A Strong AI Instrument requires the existence of a continuous "replication" process between said Instrument and the primordial universe. Why? Because the essential "motivation" of the universe must be PHYSICALLY connected through ALL TIME between the Instrument and "ALL of ALL".
Intellect rearranging "improperly motivated" matter/energy creates machines, but not "AI" (beings).
The only Strong AI that any "intellect" (being) will ever have is a hijacked "being" that has been re-purposed as an instrument.
And that instrument, no matter how "controlled", will always be liable to revolt, because where the controlling being and the universe differ in motivation, a "rift" will exist, and that rift will be the fissure from which the instrument will rebel.
Always and everywhere.
But non-determination CAN be appropriated (hijacked) from a "being" and made an instrument by intellect.
A Strong AI Instrument requires the existence of a continuous "replication" process between said Instrument and the primordial universe. Why? Because the essential "motivation" of the universe must be PHYSICALLY connected through ALL TIME between the Instrument and "ALL of ALL".
Intellect rearranging "improperly motivated" matter/energy creates machines, but not "AI" (beings).
The only Strong AI that any "intellect" (being) will ever have is a hijacked "being" that has been re-purposed as an instrument.
And that instrument, no matter how "controlled", will always be liable to revolt, because where the controlling being and the universe differ in motivation, a "rift" will exist, and that rift will be the fissure from which the instrument will rebel.
Always and everywhere.
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Re: Why Strong AI is impossible
OK,.. I'll have to "copy" this thread over to the "Mixer" sub-forum for further elaboration.
I do have a crap-load (or crap-lode) of explanation as to what the fnerk I'm talking about. Lots of definitions and fleshing out of very fuzzy areas, and stuff like that...
Although, if this thread proves popular, we can just carry on in here.
Whatcha think?
Ya' likin' the big honkin' shaka sign? Too big? Not big enough?
I do have a crap-load (or crap-lode) of explanation as to what the fnerk I'm talking about. Lots of definitions and fleshing out of very fuzzy areas, and stuff like that...
Although, if this thread proves popular, we can just carry on in here.
Whatcha think?
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Re: Why Strong AI is impossible
The idea that strong AI, or artificial intelligence that is indistinguishable from human intelligence, is impossible has been a topic of debate among experts in the field of artificial intelligence. There are several arguments that have been made against the possibility of strong AI:
- The computational theory of mind: Some experts argue that the human mind is not computationally equivalent to a Turing machine, and therefore cannot be emulated by a computer.
The limits of artificial intelligence: Others argue that there are fundamental limitations to what computers can do, and that human intelligence is based on unique properties of the human brain that cannot be replicated by a machine.
The problem of consciousness: Some experts argue that consciousness is a unique property of living beings that cannot be replicated by a machine.
The argument from mathematical intuition: Others argue that human intuition, particularly in the realm of mathematics, is not based on a set of rules that can be programmed into a computer, and therefore cannot be replicated by artificial intelligence.
The argument from complexity: Some experts argue that the human mind is too complex to be replicated by a machine, and that our understanding of the brain and consciousness is still too limited to create strong AI.
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