Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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thomasglee wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:46 am
London Calling Iberia, you're a hoot. A foolish hoot, but a hoot none the less. Too bad you don't know as much as you think you do about me, or anything else for that matter.

You're such a clever hoot you had to create two ID's to respond to my single, yet prescient post. Good for you and your bi-polar self.
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I have discovered thomasglee's true identity, and why makes him tick. In this short clip, we see are aging hero "discuss" his point of view usng his usually charm and wit.

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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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thomasglee wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:46 am
London Calling Iberia, you're a hoot. A foolish hoot, but a hoot none the less. Too bad you don't know as much as you think you do about me, or anything else for that matter.

You're such a clever hoot you had to create two ID's to respond to my single, yet prescient post. Good for you and your bi-polar self.
Post your CV. I want to hear about your CIA past...

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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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You’re obsessed like a petulant child.
Psalm 34:4 - “I sought the Lord, and he answered me and delivered me from all my fears.”

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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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Yeah, let's see if these schizo people actually maintain a handle, or just keep jumping back and forth. It's just stupid to engage with them, as we've said. We've passed the point where guests are actually interesting lurkers/posters, now they have gone into full troll "guest" mode.

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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:08 am
Guest wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:54 am
yes, the article in the Tampa Bay Times is real.

no, this is not a flue.
Yes it is, and I can prove it with data. You can't, but you can keep lying about it.

The only reason any more people will have died (and you can't lie about total deaths, it's the only stat you CANNOT lie about unless you count them purposefully wrong) was because so many were denied cardiovascular and oncology care because of the fake hysteria. And that'll still barely be statistically significant, that's how ridiculous this all is.
Looking at the facts.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/20 ... id-19-icu/

The Tampa Bay Times article was published September 2, 2021. The article said many younger adults were dying of covid in their ICU. At the time, Guests said this was not a flu and the deaths were real deaths.

https://data.cdc.gov/widgets/9dzk-mvmi? ... irect=true

This site tracks monthly deaths.

The deaths were higher while the Delta variant was overwhelming the Tampa Bay ICU, as the Guests stated.

Jan 2020 264,663
Feb 2020 244,943
Mar 2020 269,778
Apr 2020 322,371
May 2020 280,496
Jun 2020 250,401
Jul 2020 278,954
Aug 2020 277,209
Sep 2020 257,109
Oct 2020 273,784
Nov 2020 302,412
Dec 2020 366,980
Jan 2021 373,531
Feb 2021 282,465
Mar 2020 270,886
Apr 2021 256,865
May 2021 257,994
Jun 2021 244,459
Jul 2021 256,404
Aug 2021 299,753
Sep 2021 306,486
Oct 2021 289,206
Nov 2021 265,735

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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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Even Faoochi says many people in hospitals are "with covid" ... agreeing with what everyone had said for years. That is, they get tested and diagnoses of covid pay more to boot.

Can we differentiate between flu and covid? Apparently the CDC has said for a long time they don't, and don't care, but positive tests are good for the narrative, aren't they?

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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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The politics of causes of death aside, in 2019 there were 2,854,838 deaths in the United States.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr ... 08-508.pdf

Adding up the monthly numbers posted above, in 2020, there were 3,389,100 deaths in the United States, an 18.7% increase over 2019.

In January 2021 through November 2021, there have been 3,103,784 deaths in the United States. If deaths in December 2021 exceed 285,316, deaths in 2021 will be higher than in 2020. But in any case, 2021 deaths will nearly match 2020 deaths.

It would be a reasonable to conclude that the 18.7% increase in 2020 and, similarly, 2021 deaths over 2019 deaths has something to do with covid 19, as flu has always been around.

The details can be argued, but deaths are definitely increasing a lot. A whole lot. And they are not coming down. At least not yet.

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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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Excess deaths are increasing. Together with the virus itself, the gene therapy and a whole host of related pandemic adverse health conditions are increasing mortality. Many are afraid the clot shot to be one of the causes of excess deaths and there's justification for their concern. That's why it's a choice, not a mandate.

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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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Guest wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:01 am
It would be a reasonable to conclude that the 18.7% increase in 2020 and, similarly, 2021 deaths over 2019 deaths has something to do with covid 19, as flu has always been around.

The details can be argued, but deaths are definitely increasing a lot. A whole lot. And they are not coming down. At least not yet.
Yes, the argument is important, and one's critical thinking is, as a result.

We know what sarscov2 does to people in terms of CFR and IFR, and it's clear: not much. Is it a change from the past? Yes. Are people unhealthier than ever? Yes.

We also know that these same unhealthier than ever people need medical care constantly, or monthly, and we shut that down during 2020 and 2021 at times. What happened? Of course more deaths. It's that from covid? No, again it's from the response to covid/gov't policies regarding covid. Deaths of despair? People losing jobs? Not covid health wise, responses to covid.

So yes, deaths are up, but it has way more to do with government policies and not actually covid. It's quite obvious in so many ways. I don't know why this is a mystery unless you just don't want to admit the data of IFR and CFR, and the clear problem/reaction, caused by government policies.

And as FullMoon points out, the jabs made people even unhealthier, contributing to their demise, and that killed more that are lost in the confusion, since no one even honestly talks about adverse effects. They spread these out over time in a dose response relationship as well, as Malone details, so they will be hidden and there is no control group no to compare to when we consider last year, this year and the years coming.

This reasoning is clear and obvious. I hope you read it all, three times.

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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:08 am
The only reason any more people will have died (and you can't lie about total deaths, it's the only stat you CANNOT lie about unless you count them purposefully wrong) was because so many were denied cardiovascular and oncology care because of the fake hysteria. And that'll still barely be statistically significant, that's how ridiculous this all is.
I'm a simple man, but to me "barely be statistically significant" means "not much at all". Like maybe less then 1%.

Seems to me, being a simple man, that this 18.7% jump in deaths per year is "highly significant".

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