Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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** 06-Jan-2022 World View: MRNA questions
tim wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:06 pm
> John, this being the Crisis Era, is there a possibility that the
> mRNA shots were a serious mistake?

> A once in a generation mistake that starts a serious problem for
> the country?

> The idea of hijacking human cells and human tissues, in order to
> force these tissues that do not produce anything close to viral
> proteins to produce spike proteins which themselves are toxic, is
> crazy to me.

> Science and medicine cannot explain what causes diabetes, has no
> cure for cancer, and can't explain how the eyes are able to create
> a three dimensional image in the brain, yet we are going to
> pretend we know the full extent of what hacking mRNA does?
Crisis Eras have to do with xenophobia, nationalism and belligerence.
Thinking of the Swine Flu panic in 1976, I would say that mistakes can
be made in any era.

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Unvaccinated individuals spread the virus more easily than those who are fully vaccinated.
26 died today yesterday in that location we call home. More are going Home that had been vaccinated.
We survived so far and yes we caught it also. The monoclonal antibodies are not working
on this new variant I have been told point blank. If you want to get it or not its on you and Washington
can stop the pissing contest and try to resolve earlier treatments. Fauci should be shit canned.

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Actually, John the 20s are reminding me of the 70s.
Cold war with China instead of Russia.
Covid shots instead of swine flu vaccine.
Bidenflation instead of stagflation.
Augmented Reality instead of consumer computers arriving.
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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John wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:56 am
** 06-Jan-2022 World View: MRNA questions
tim wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:06 pm
> John, this being the Crisis Era, is there a possibility that the
> mRNA shots were a serious mistake?

> A once in a generation mistake that starts a serious problem for
> the country?

> The idea of hijacking human cells and human tissues, in order to
> force these tissues that do not produce anything close to viral
> proteins to produce spike proteins which themselves are toxic, is
> crazy to me.

> Science and medicine cannot explain what causes diabetes, has no
> cure for cancer, and can't explain how the eyes are able to create
> a three dimensional image in the brain, yet we are going to
> pretend we know the full extent of what hacking mRNA does?
Crisis Eras have to do with xenophobia, nationalism and belligerence.
Thinking of the Swine Flu panic in 1976, I would say that mistakes can
be made in any era.
During the unraveling the governmental institutions become corrupt and are unable to do the jobs they were created for.

In the Fourth Turning as the people look to their governmental institutions for help, they find they have degraded into incompetence.

The 1976 Swine Flu vaccine is a perfect example. It was pulled from use after finding to cause more harm then good, which is something that can be argued regarding the COVID shots today.
The 1976 swine flu vaccine was so fraught with problems that HHS discontinued the jab after vaccinating 49 million Americans. According to news accounts, the incidence of flu was seven times greater among the vaccinated then the unvaccinated. Furthermore, the vaccine caused some 500 cases of the degenerative nerve disease Guillain-Barre Syndrome, 32 deaths, more then 400 paralyzations, and as many as 4,000 other injuries.
-The Real Anthony Fauci by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. page 359

Had the 1976 Swine Flu outbreak occurred today, the vaccine would probably not be pulled from use and mandated like the COVID shots. The reason they were pulled was because the governmental institutions were still competent and not full of corruption like they are today.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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** 06-Jan-2022 World View: Crisis Era incompetene
tim wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:31 pm
> During the unraveling the governmental institutions become corrupt
> and are unable to do the jobs they were created for.

> In the Fourth Turning as the people look to their governmental
> institutions for help, they find they have degraded into
> incompetence.

> The 1976 Swine Flu vaccine is a perfect example. It was pulled
> from use after finding to cause more harm then good, which is
> something that can be argued regarding the COVID shots today.

> Had the 1976 Swine Flu outbreak occurred today, the vaccine would
> probably not be pulled from use and mandated like the COVID
> shots. The reason they were pulled was because the governmental
> institutions were still competent and not full of corruption like
> they are today.
You're right. Your point about incompetence is a good one. All you
have to do is look at the loony tunes Millennials and criminals
running Washington today, compared to the competence of the Silents
and Boomers in the 1970s.

Another major example of Crisis Era incompetence, this time in China,
was the following:

** 17-Nov-2008: A generational view of China's growing melamine food disaster
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e081117

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Countries not yet affected by a surge of the Omicron coronavirus variant should adopt mask mandates, according to Dr. Hans Kluge, the World Health Organization’s regional director for Europe.Omicron moves faster and wider than any such Covid new variant that we have previously seen. We therefore urge these countries to mandate the use of high-quality masks in closed and indoor settings and ensure that vulnerable individuals have access to them,” he said. As of January 10, 26 countries in the region reported that more than 1% of their population is catching Covid-19 each week, Kluge said. hipaa compliant texting https://curogram.com/hipaa-compliant-texting
He added that he is “deeply concerned that as the variant moves East [across Europe], we have yet to see its full impact in countries where levels of vaccination uptake are lower, and where we will see more severe disease in the unvaccinate.” Kluge used the example of Denmark, where he said Omicron cases had “exploded” in recent weeks, and the Covid-19 hospitalization rate for unvaccinated patients was six-fold higher than for those who were fully vaccinated in the week over Christmas.A spokesperson for the Women's Tennis Association (WTA) has told CNN that 96% of the WTA’s top 100 players are now fully vaccinated. Full vaccination equated to two doses where appropriate, added the spokesperson. The figure was previously 85%. The issue of vaccinations in professional tennis has shot to prominence amid controversy surrounding men's world number one Novak Djokovic. The Serb had his Australian visa canceled last week after authorities determined he did not qualify for a medical exemption from the rule that all arrivals to Australia must be vaccinated against Covid-19.

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Who is this copy and paste hack?

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:22 pm
Who is this copy and paste hack?
I'm not sure if they posted that expecting us to get skeert, or laugh.
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thomasglee wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:37 pm
Cool Breeze wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:22 pm
Who is this copy and paste hack?
I'm not sure if they posted that expecting us to get skeert, or laugh.
Embedded within the post is a mention of a service called hipaa compliant texting with a link. Do you think the purpose of the post was really to advertise this service but make it appear that the post is "on topic"?

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Guest wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:24 am
White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan on Thursday said the U.S. intelligence community has not made an assessment that the Russians, who have massed some 100,000 troops on Ukraine’s border, have definitively decided to take a military course of action.
https://apnews.com/article/europe-russi ... 371cd80eb2

Brace for impact.
The U.S. intelligence community has taken note of a buildup on social media by Russian influencers justifying intervention by emphasizing deteriorating human rights in Ukraine, suggesting an increased militancy of Ukrainian leaders and blaming the West for escalating tensions.
Looks like they are onto the Pro-Russian trolls like Burning Prime, thomasglee, Cool Breeze, and Dakardi...

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