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“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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https://catherinesalgado.substack.com/p ... ths-over-2
7 Basketball Sudden Deaths Over 2 Weeks - Vaxxed Athletes Need Screening

There were seven sudden deaths—4 coaches, two players, and one referee—related to basketball just within a two-week span. This is not normal, it’s terrifying. And the medical community, if it had the integrity and interest in saving lives that it pretends to have, would be scrambling to determine the cause, which is likely tied to the deadly COVID-19 vaccine.

I reported back in April 2022: “769 Athletes Collapse from Cardiac Arrest Since Covid Vax Rollout.” The average age of the players was 23 years’ old. Sadly, the sudden athlete deaths haven’t stopped, and there’s now strong evidence that the Covid-19 vaccines drive up the risk of cardiac issues.

As radiologist, oncologist, and cancer researcher Dr. William Makis posted on Twitter/X, “If even one of these deaths is due to COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Induced Cardiac Injury such as myocarditis (which we know occurs as often as 1 in 30 vaccinations), that’s one death far too many.”

From Dr. Makis:

“7 basketball sudden deaths within past 2 weeks!

Feb.4, 2024 - NBA championship winner and basketball legend Earl Cureton died unexpectedly at the age of 66

Feb.4, 2024 - Tigard, OR - Tigard boys basketball coach, 52 year old Shawn Alderman died suddenly on Sunday, Feb.4, 2024

Feb.2, 2024 - Michael P. Roebuck, age 45, collapsed during halftime of a high school basketball game he was refereeing in Mt. Pleasant, PA

Jan.30, 2024 - Bay Springs, MS - Bay Springs High School basketball coach Corey Mackey died suddenly "from natural causes"

Jan.25, 2024 - Momence, IL - 14 year old Amari Crite, Momence High School basketball player collapsed and died during basketball game.

Jan.23, 2024 - Southington, CT - Southington girls basketball coach Bill Queen, age 59, died unexpectedly Tuesday as the Blue Knights were getting ready to practice

Jan.17, 2024 - NBA Warriors Assistant Coach 46 year old Dejan Milojevic died suddenly at a team dinner from a cardiac arrest…

All 7 deaths appear to be cardiac related and unexpected, and three deaths occurred on the basketball Court.”

Yet many vaccinated athletes and coaches are still not being screened for cardiac issues. This is not only unacceptable—it’s outright, willful, and dangerous negligence.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/ ... wful-truth
These numbers tell the awful truth about how many tens of thousands MORE "died suddenly" in 2021 than died in 2020 (an ever-rising spike that "our free press" keeps blacking out)

Legacy.com—the "world's largest" archive of obituaries that anyone can read—now tells us precisely what the government-and-media don't want us all, or anyone, to know
https://off-guardian.org/2024/02/21/why ... s-numbers/
Why is the ONS suddenly changing the “excess deaths” numbers?
The UK’s Office of National Statistics (ONS) announced yesterday that they are changing the way they calculate “excess deaths” across the country.

“Deaths above expected” or “excess deaths” is a statistic indicating mortality trends. Roughly speaking, it is calculated by estimating how many people die per year (based on previous years), then subtracting that number from the actual number of registered deaths.

A negative number means fewer people died than expected, a positive number means more. It’s more complicated than that, obviously, there are numerous factors that go into the modelling, but that’s essentially it.

“Excess deaths” came to public prominence during the height of the Covid “pandemic”, becoming one of those scary red statistics everyone was bandying about.

…and now the ONS is changing the way they calculate it.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5


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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/0 ... ccination/
New Zealand Politician Who Pushes for Mass COVID Vaccination Dies Suddenly After Collapsing at Charity Run
Efeso Collins, a member of the New Zealand House of Representatives for the Green Party and a vocal proponent of COVID-19 mass vaccination efforts, tragically passed away on Wednesday morning.

Collins, 49, was participating in a charity run to support ChildFund’s initiative to provide safe drinking water to communities in the Pacific when he collapsed unexpectedly.

Despite the immediate medical attention provided by emergency services at the event, which took place at Auckland’s Britomart, efforts to resuscitate the MP were unsuccessful.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/ ... accination
One way to hide what "vaccination" has been doing to YOUNGER people is to say that they "died suddenly of natural causes"

Nor is it only "liberal" propagandists who thus try to hide the awful truth—try to hide it even from themselves—as we see in this sad news about the family of well-known rightist pundit David Frum
FRUM, MIRANDA ANN Suddenly of natural causes on Friday, February 16, 2024, at her home in New York at the age of 32. Miranda Frum, beloved daughter of Danielle and David. Dear sister and sister-in-law of Nathaniel Saul and Isabel Clay Frum, and Beatrice Sarah Worthy Frum. Devoted granddaughter of Yvonne and the late Peter Worthington, and the late Max Crittenden, and the late Barbara and Murray Frum. Devoted great-granddaughter of the late Florence Rosberg. Loving niece of Linda and Howard Sokolowski. Adored cousin of Barbara Frum, Samuel Frum, Eleanor Sokolowski, Wilson Crittenden, and Jackson Crittenden. At Benjamin's Park Memorial Chapel, 2401 Steeles Avenue West (3 lights west of Dufferin), for service on Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 10:00 a.m. Interment the Sons of Jacob Cemetery in Belleville, Ontario.

Published online on February 21, 2024

https://obituaries.thestar.com/obituary ... 1089401179

It is, of course, a tragedy that Frum’s daughter died at 32; but people are still getting “vaccinated,” and we're not going to stop this if we all pretend that she, and many other younger people, have “died of natural causes.”

She was young, attractive and came from a prominent Canadian-American family; and yet I find, on Google News, that not one major news outlet reported on her untimely death. Instead, we just get the same obituary they would have published if Miranda Frum was 85, and so (possibly) did die of natural causes.

Nothing to see here, move along.

SD

Since the “vaccination” drive began, the rightist David Frum has been among its fiercest champions, along with “leftists” like Michael Moore, Joe Scarborough, Noam Chomsky and Keith Olbermann:
Vaccinated America Has Had Enough
In the United States, this pandemic could be almost over by now. The reasons it’s still going are pretty clear.
by David Frum

July 23, 2021

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... rs/619539/

The Atlantic's David Frum suggests treating unvaccinated patients last in hospitals
December 13, 2021

https://www.foxnews.com/media/atlantic- ... ients-last

Please, let there be no gloating over this untimely death, as such Schadenfreude is, in its way, as nasty as the vitriol with which the likes of Frum have spattered “anti-vaxxers.”
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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And now his daughter has died suddenly at 32.

This post is not meant to gloat or brag, nobody is winning here as people continue to die suddenly and nobody seems to care.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/atlantic- ... ients-last
The Atlantic staff writer David Frum suggested hospitals and doctors should give low priority to unvaccinated citizens in a series of tweets on Saturday.

"Unless the US moves to vastly stricter vaccine mandates - which I would favor, but which is plainly not going to happen - the US will stall at present vaccination levels," Frum began his Twitter thread.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... rs/619539/
Vaccinated America Has Had Enough
In the United States, this pandemic could be almost over by now. The reasons it’s still going are pretty clear.

By David Frum
In the United States, this pandemic could’ve been over by now, and certainly would’ve been by Labor Day. If the pace of vaccination through the summer had been anything like the pace in April and May, the country would be nearing herd immunity. With most adults immunized, new and more infectious coronavirus variants would have nowhere to spread. Life could return nearly to normal.

Experts list many reasons for the vaccine slump, but one big reason stands out: vaccine resistance among conservative, evangelical, and rural Americans. Pro-Trump America has decided that vaccine refusal is a statement of identity and a test of loyalty.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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https://rumble.com/v4fic6b-cpac-2024-ed ... risis.html
CPAC: Ed Dowd And Ryan Cole Discuss The Coming Economic Crisis |
at the Steve Bannon War Room enclave
Ed Dowd talks about excessive deaths
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/stu ... vaccinated
Study Finds Majority Of Patients With Long COVID Were Vaccinated

BY TYLER DURDEN
FRIDAY, MAR 01, 2024 - 05:40 PM
Authored by Megan Redshaw via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours),

A recent study found that the majority of patients who suffered from long COVID during a time when vaccines and antiviral treatments were widely available were vaccinated.

The observational study published in the Journal of Clinical Medicine, researchers interviewed 390 people in Thailand who contracted COVID-19 during the “fifth wave of the COVID-19 pandemic” when the omicron variant was dominant. Patients were followed by phone from three months after their diagnosis for a year to monitor their physical condition, mental health, sleep disturbances, and quality of life.

Out of 390 people with COVID-19, 377 (97 percent) were vaccinated, 383 (98 percent) underwent antiviral treatment, and 330 (78 percent) developed long COVID syndrome. The most frequently reported symptoms were fatigue and cough. Other reported symptoms included depression, anxiety, and poor sleep quality. The study found that patients under age 60 with a cough as an initial symptom were more likely to develop the condition. In a subset of patients with long COVID, researchers found a notable correlation in females with headaches, dizziness, and brain fog.

“Despite the extensive distribution of vaccines and antiviral therapies, the prevalence of long COVID remains high,” the authors of the paper wrote.

Although definitions of long COVID differ, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) broadly defines long COVID as “signs, symptoms, and conditions that continue to develop after acute COVID-19 infection” that can last for “weeks, months, or years.” The term “long COVID” also includes post-acute sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 infection, long-haul COVID, and post-acute COVID-19.

According to the World Health Organization, while most people with COVID-19 recover and return to normal health, some patients, including those with mild illness, have symptoms that persist for weeks or months after recovering from acute illness.

Nearly 7 percent of U.S. adults surveyed by the CDC in 2022 said they’ve experienced long COVID. Although U.S. regulatory agencies claim vaccinating against COVID-19 can reduce the risk of developing long COVID, the current paper did not find a significant link between the presence of comorbidities or infection severity and the emergence of long COVID symptoms.

Studies Link Long COVID to Vaccination
A February report published by the CDC found that more than 8 percent of participants in seven U.S. states reported having experienced long COVID symptoms. In West Virginia, almost 11 percent of survey participants reported long COVID symptoms. However, the agency did not disclose whether survey respondents were vaccinated.

Some research suggests long COVID may be caused by an immune overreaction to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein that COVID-19 vaccines use to induce antibodies and that vaccination causes some people to generate a second round of antibodies that target the first.

In a February 2023 study published in the Journal of Medical Virology, researchers analyzed the levels of spike protein and viral RNA in patients hospitalized for COVID-19 with and without long COVID. They found that spike protein and viral RNA were more likely to be present in patients with long COVID.

In an August 2023 study published in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases, researchers found the risk of long COVID was lower in those who had previous SARS-CoV-2 infection, and the risk of getting long COVID did not differ by vaccination status. Researchers found that unvaccinated people infected with omicron had the lowest risk of long COVID.

In a 2023 study in the European Review for Medical and Pharmacological Sciences, researchers studied the serum of 81 individuals with long COVID. They found viral spike protein in one patient after the infection had cleared despite having a negative COVID-19 test, and vaccine spike protein in two patients two months after vaccination.

In a December 2022 study published in PLoS One, researchers found patients were more likely to experience long COVID if they had preexisting medical conditions, a higher number of symptoms during the acute phase of COVID-19 illness, if their infection was more severe or resulted in hospitalization, or if they had received two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine.

The Epoch Times contacted the CDC for comment.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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