Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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https://twitter.com/c_plushie/status/16 ... 7P568tAAAA
The CEO of the OneAmerica insurance company publicly disclosed that during the third and fourth quarters of 2021, death in people of working age (18-64) was 40% higher than it was before the pandemic. Significantly, the majority of the deaths were not attributed to COVID. Even a 10% increase in excess deaths would have been a 1-in-200-year event. But this was a 40%.

Before the #Covid vaccines, the US Bureau of Labor Statistics for people disabled and not able to work, was between 29 and 30 million on an absolute basis for 4 or 5 years. Then in February of 2021 (2 months after the vaccine roll-out started) this number took off, and went to a high of 33.2 million in September of 2022.

Since February of 2021, the disability rate for the employed is up 31%, and the general US population's disability rate is up 9% from February of 2021 through to December of 2022.

More importantly, the disability rate amongst those not in the labour force, those who quit or get fired, their disability rate is only up 4%. And I suspect those are the people who either didn't take the vaccine and were fired, or quit, refusing to take the vaccine.

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The Chinese supposedly isolated the virus and uploaded the genome, where Moderna created the mRNA injection.

https://www.science.org/content/article ... a-outbreak
Chinese researchers reveal draft genome of virus implicated in Wuhan pneumonia outbreak
Scientists praise decision to make date public; U.S. group sets out to produce live virus from the sequence
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/35-year-s ... d=74701220
Just two days after the first complete genome of the virus was mapped and publicly posted online in early January, Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine candidate, mRNA-1273, was finalized.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/inte ... the-virus/
This video clip shows that Moderna never even has a sample of the virus to make a vaccine. It was all just theoretical computer science.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society ... ld-ordered

https://time.com/5882918/zhang-yongzhen ... us-genome/
And, in fact, Zhang insists he first uploaded the genome to the U.S. National Center for Biotechnology Information (NCBI) on Jan. 5—an assertion corroborated by the submission date listed on the U.S government institution’s Genbank. “When we posted the genome on Jan. 5, the United States certainly knew about this virus,” he says. But it can take days or even weeks for the NCBI to look at a submission, and given the gravity of the situation and buoyed by the urging of colleagues, Zhang chose to expedite its release to the public, by publishing it online. (Approached by TIME, Holmes deferred to Zhang’s version of events.) It’s a decision that facilitated the swift development of testing kits, as well as the early discussion of antivirals and possible vaccines.
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Just because someone seems ok in the present doesn't mean they won't be a future causality.
tim, I guarantee you that everyone who got the shots will be a future casualty. Also everyone who did not.
Eventually.
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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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Sunday, March 12, 2023
tim wrote:
Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:38 am
FullMoon wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:11 pm

The speech he gave is not well known and
basically off the record. It's cited
here often because it potentially gives
the perspective of what they're really
thinking about and planning for. It's
so remarkable that it's hard to believe
and hopefully not actually true. Sadly
it looks trending true rather quickly.
The thing is, they need something like
smallpox to the Native American Indians
for it to be valid. Not just cellular
damage and some deaths. I would think
EMP taking out electrical all at once
would do the trick because that has a
projected death rate shockingly
high. Maybe they could just blame it on
a Carrington level solar EMP and pretend
to help but take an extra long time and
wait to clean up the mess and take over.

https://www.powermag.com/expect-death-i ... ower-grid/
A fast acting virus or biological weapon
would raise the alarm and trigger a
response. A slow killing bio weapon that
takes years to kill will just sow
confusion and division among the people
who were attacked, this being the NATO
countries and their allies. The longer
it takes the bio weapon to work the
better.

A smallpox attack or an EMP would
trigger a military response - the CCP
doesn't want that. They want us all to
"die suddenly" so they can take North
America intact.

We aren't done seeing mRNA deaths. The
excessive deaths began with the mRNA
mandates and the trend has held
since. Until the excessive death trend
breaks, people are still dying from the
mRNA injection they received in 2021.

Nobody who got an injection can say they
are safe yet as we don't understand the
mechanism of how these injections are
killing people.
This doesn't make any sense. First you
say that the Chinese want the deaths to
occur slowly over time, so that the US
military won't be alarmed. Then you say
that the Chinese want all Americans to
"die suddenly," so that the Chinese can
take over the US mainland (and
presumably all the land in the rest of
the world).

This is self-contradictory. So far, I
haven't seen any credible evidence that
the mRNA vaccine is a Chinese bioweapon
in the sense that you mean.

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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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John wrote:
Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:51 am
Sunday, March 12, 2023
tim wrote:
Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:38 am
FullMoon wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:11 pm

The speech he gave is not well known and
basically off the record. It's cited
here often because it potentially gives
the perspective of what they're really
thinking about and planning for. It's
so remarkable that it's hard to believe
and hopefully not actually true. Sadly
it looks trending true rather quickly.
The thing is, they need something like
smallpox to the Native American Indians
for it to be valid. Not just cellular
damage and some deaths. I would think
EMP taking out electrical all at once
would do the trick because that has a
projected death rate shockingly
high. Maybe they could just blame it on
a Carrington level solar EMP and pretend
to help but take an extra long time and
wait to clean up the mess and take over.

https://www.powermag.com/expect-death-i ... ower-grid/
A fast acting virus or biological weapon
would raise the alarm and trigger a
response. A slow killing bio weapon that
takes years to kill will just sow
confusion and division among the people
who were attacked, this being the NATO
countries and their allies. The longer
it takes the bio weapon to work the
better.

A smallpox attack or an EMP would
trigger a military response - the CCP
doesn't want that. They want us all to
"die suddenly" so they can take North
America intact.

We aren't done seeing mRNA deaths. The
excessive deaths began with the mRNA
mandates and the trend has held
since. Until the excessive death trend
breaks, people are still dying from the
mRNA injection they received in 2021.

Nobody who got an injection can say they
are safe yet as we don't understand the
mechanism of how these injections are
killing people.
This doesn't make any sense. First you
say that the Chinese want the deaths to
occur slowly over time, so that the US
military won't be alarmed. Then you say
that the Chinese want all Americans to
"die suddenly," so that the Chinese can
take over the US mainland (and
presumably all the land in the rest of
the world).

This is self-contradictory. So far, I
haven't seen any credible evidence that
the mRNA vaccine is a Chinese bioweapon
in the sense that you mean.
I put “died suddenly” in quotes to refer to the way that people are dying and nobody seems to be alarmed yet. For some reason when people “die suddenly” now nobody seems to care or act surprised. Young healthy athletes in the prime of their lives are collapsing with heart issues and it’s a conspiracy to talk about it.

A slow die off that is hard to see unless you only look at the numbers.

It’s working so far and by the time people realize what has happened it’s already too late.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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Sunday, March 12, 2023

That still doesn't make sense. The
number of people allegedly being killed
by mRNA is comparable to the number of
people killed in traffic accidents,
which is hardly a national crisis.
Fentanyl is more of a bioweapon than
mRNA.

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John wrote:
Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:31 pm
Sunday, March 12, 2023

That still doesn't make sense. The
number of people allegedly being killed
by mRNA is comparable to the number of
people killed in traffic accidents,
which is hardly a national crisis.
Fentanyl is more of a bioweapon than
mRNA.

Source?
The CEO of the OneAmerica insurance company publicly disclosed that during the third and fourth quarters of 2021, death in people of working age (18-64) was 40% higher than it was before the pandemic. Significantly, the majority of the deaths were not attributed to COVID. Even a 10% increase in excess deaths would have been a 1-in-200-year event. But this was a 40%.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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How many of that 40% died of covid (especially at the upper part of the age band)?
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tim wrote:
Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:38 am
Nobody who got an injection can say they are safe yet as we don't understand the mechanism of how these injections are killing people.
I can, and have from the beginning. It is dose dependent though, mostly due to batches and the unknown of degradation, due to synthesis and the particular patient's body/physiology/environment. Deaths from Sudden Cardiac events, related to inflammation and infarction (thrombosis and vasculitis), as well as diminished immune response hurting both infectious responses and creating much greater cancer rates.

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Re: Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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John wrote:
Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:31 pm
Sunday, March 12, 2023

That still doesn't make sense. The
number of people allegedly being killed
by mRNA is comparable to the number of
people killed in traffic accidents,
which is hardly a national crisis.
Fentanyl is more of a bioweapon than
mRNA.
Last I checked traffic accidents and opioid use weren't mandated by the government, or particularly lied about for years. This is getting silly, my man, come on now.

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