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Recovery

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Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:15 pm
Reagan would say a recession is when your neighbor loses his job. A depression is when you lose your job. And a recovery begins when Biden loses his.
The Democrats have been working the ‘kitchen table’ issues, mainly the price of gas and inflation. Inflation at least is beyond his control between Covid recovery and the Ukraine war. You could wish they would go away, but that is the sort of thing happens in a crisis. At least we don't have a crisis war. But with things like the inflation control act, he has done what he can.

The Republicans? They just want Biden to look bad. The hope is that they will get back in power one day. Gaining power is more important than serving the people. Thus, if Biden is doing his best for the people, the Republican are against America.

The best I can see happening is that the Democrats hold the House, and pick up a few more seats in the Senate. Thus, filibuster could be killed, the voting rights bill would follow, and the rest of the Democratic agenda as well.

The worst in the short term? The Republicans just have to take either part of Congress. They would vote against everything to make Biden look bad while running silly investigations. They might try a few impeachments that will go nowhere in the Senate. They might want to cut taxes on the rich and corporations, but are apt to run into the veto if they try. At any rate, they are not for the American people.

It’s odd. One party tries to do its best, the other to muck things up, and the voters haven’t yet seen through it. Two more years are apt to do it.

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Conspiracy Theory

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https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/27/politics ... index.html
CNN  The Republican gubernatorial nominee in Michigan invoked a conspiracy that the Covid-19 pandemic and protests in the summer of 2020 after the killing of George Floyd were part of a decades-long plan by the Democratic Party to “topple” the United States as retaliation for losing the US Civil War, adding that the party wanted to enslave people “again.”
This again reflects the fallacy that the Democrats were the conservative rural racist agricultural faction in the Civil War. The Republicans were the progressive urban abolitionist industrial faction. The party switched positions on race with LBJ and the civil rights movement and Nixon's southern strategy. The conspiracy theory the governor candidate has enough other flaws, but it starts from there.

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The issues...

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FullMoon wrote:
Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:02 am
I'm not too worried about Dems as they're falling apart in rapid fashion. But all the hardships they've promoted weren't necessary a part of the political party and will probably still linger. Dems are just bigoted fools who actually thought that they were so universally and absolutely correct on such important issues that it was OK to weaponize the government to force their agenda and worldview. I think they were tricked themselves and used as a tool. They were just much more amenable to disposing of freedom and liberty. Some nefarious actors are behind it and probably communists. The 'woke' ideology seems the likely attack vector. Hopefully it's also their downfall as we can see patience has run thin on their lies and criminality.
Let’s run down the issues…

Black Lives Matter. Do not have the police using unjustifiable violence. Do not have rural gangs invading minority neighborhoods to commit violence. Do not shoot up minority gathering places. Equality. Lack of bigotry.

Abortion. Do not have religious and moral choices enforced by law. Freedom. Choice. Yet, the Republicans will go against the will of the people to appease their core.

Covid. Prioritize curing the disease over keeping the economy going. Value life over dollars. America did poorly at preventing death, mostly due to Trump’s warped sense of priorities.

The Ukraine. Of late, the Democrats are holing firm on containment, the Republicans have begun to talk of caving in to Putin. After years of presenting themselves using FDR’s idea of containment, when push comes to shove the Republicans want to side with the communists?

Insurrection and the end of democracy. The democrats are against. The Republicans (many of them) are for.

Globalization. Yes, especially during the long unraveling, profits for corporations and the elite were considered more important than the American worker. Campaign contributions from the rich were more important than serving the voter. This is starting to change for the Democrats. Issues such as the above are taken seriously by them now. The Republicans?

The subtle one is working to put your party in power rather than to pursue what the voters want or benefit from. McConnell has his people voting as a block against Biden’s plan. A good tactic, but does he care about America more than power?

The woke philosophy? I never dived into that perspective, but it is basically a secular rewrite of Christ’s commandment to love. You treat everybody well. You can’t really complain about it and claim to be Christian.

“Lies and criminality?” The party of Trump wants to talk about lies and criminality? If you stay loyal to MAGA and Trump, you are on the wrong side of this one too. Make up conspiracy theories at whim? Deny accusations backed up by evidence? Blatantly lie about there being organized cheating in the 2020 election? Get more people in the last administration in legal trouble than ever before? Bringing that up takes a lot of cheek.

It is possible to itemize the Democratic agenda and present yourself on the side of the angels most of the time. Globalization was a mistake. Hillary’s broad brush declaration ‘deplorable’ was at best a mistake that likely cost her, no matter how accurate the characterization. The Democrats were not ideal saints.

Can anyone run down the issues this crisis and present most of them as favorable to the Republican position? It is more usual to switch to personal attacks or remain silent rather than defend what the Republicans are trying to do.

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Trump's Real Defense

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The main stream media has been reporting lately that Trump is regularly confessed to various illegal deeds. They report how he is driving his lawyers crazy, ignoring advice, which has been mainly a recommendation to shut up.

This makes me wonder if his real defense is to claim insanity? No sane individual would confess so regularly yet claim innocence? This builds from his feeling of entitlement, that he could do anything yet not be prosecuted, for example to shoot someone in Times Square and walk away, but still you can see an inability to comprehend reality.

But we'll see.

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A more perfect Union?

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John wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:39 am
But there's more. I've also learned vastly more about how the brilliant US Constitution protects America. in this election, the Democrats were attempting a takeover of the government, neutralizing government institutions like the supreme Court and the electoral college, an actual coup. that actually might have worked in some other countries but not in America. the US Constitution made that absolutely impossible and we're seeing that today.
I’m less impressed. One fanatic president can stack the Supreme Court such that even basic human rights precedent can be culled.

FDR needed to regulate the economy, but that was not perceived as necessary in Revolutionary times. So he did it anyway. After initial resistance, the Supremes went along with it.

To get the south to agree to the US, the agricultural rural bigot faction was given the Senate. A minority of the voters was given half the power of Congress. While slavery is long gone, this gift keeps on giving.

The electoral college? Why would a direct popular vote not be better?

But most of the bad parts of the Constitution benefit the conservative faction, so you perhaps have less cause to complain.

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Midterms

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Well, it looks like the basic elements of the midterms are over. The big factor is Trump was the looser. It was often asserted that if he lost, violence would result. Instead, it became clear that when Trump endorsed election deniers, the election deniers would loose. No violent MAGA crowd surfaced. Satisfying the Trump 2020 myths was not a road to Republican victory, and thus it has become easier for Republicans to beak from the Trump influence.

It is not clear that the MAGA faction is gone, that there won’t be primaries to be won by being MAGA. It looks like if you go that route, you win the primary but lose in the general election. This will be a problem for the Republicans, but I have no sympathy. I expect the remnants of MAGA will not be strong by the 2024 elections. Too many Trump family legal woes.

Right now, the biggest or at least most talked about item on the Republican agenda is investigating Hunter. I will admit to distrusting families profiting off their influential family leader. Hunter would be as questionable is Ivanka and company. Let’s see if the investigations come up with anything. But which family has more legal problems would be a slam dunk. Making sure no one considers their family above the law or is involved in selling influence would be a fine thing. Let’s see if the GOP can make it stick on the Biden family.

The big question is whether the GOP will care more about making the Democrats look bad than helping the American people. Since Obama, they have been voting as a block to make the Democrat in the White House look bad, while the White House has generally been genuinely trying to help the people. Will the Congressmen be allowed to vote for what is best for their state, or will they vote as a block to make the other party look bad? Is the objective of the GOP leadership to help their voters, or hurt their opponents. That is what I will be looking for, and I will concede I am not optimistic. Still, helping the voters will be key if the Republicans hope eventually to win elections. Still, it is not until the crisis is over that the conservative reinvent themselves. You have to see the results of the crisis values before you can present something to confront it.

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