Let’s say that ‘advanced’ to me means the ability for one culture to dominate, oppress and colonize another culture. This is a [expletive deleted] poor definition of ‘advanced’. It suggests tribal thinking is the admirable norm, that it is one’s proper goal to dominate, oppress and colonize other people. This is hard to assume, but then Diamond attempts to reject the tribal thinking meme. There are reasons other than racial genetic superiority why western cultures came to dominate.Cool Breeze wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:25 pmThe argument has never been made that group X is more advanced in every way than group Y. It's just bizarre that all groups want to go to European civilizations, regardless, if it means so little.
I don't care much about this except for that it's just obvious truth and confirmed by everyone's real desires and footsteps, how they actually vote or live life - their actions, not what they say.
For the materialist, this is clearly the case. Every human is made in the image of God, so whether they are advanced in particular ways is meaningful only in so much as they use their talents for the glory of God. As western nations stand, materialism and atheism have run amok, so they are now accursed, having once been blessed. Notice that this pretty much only occurred after the leftists came and destroyed the native population, slowly, but surely. The lazy, old generations didn't keep vigilant. What's funny is now they blame younger generations for their errors or lack of discipline, principle.
My own perspective is that tribal thinking was natural and cost effective in the Agricultural Age. Each S&H crisis is won by a progressive faction which removes one or more aspects of tribal thinking. Kings, colonial imperialism, slaves, and isolationism are among the factors of tribal thinking removed. Racism, a belief in superior genes by certain groups, is one of these factors which Diamond effectively rebuts.
How people actually vote and live is progressive. Historically, the progressive faction of any given crisis comes out ahead. Obvious flaws are removed. It is progressives that remove conservative ‘as it has always been’ flaws. Your attempts to blame the progressives who attempt to remove flaws for the flaws is absurd, indicates a total lack of understanding history.
It is obvious that certain believers in God believe man is made in His image. It is not obvious that this is true. I may be just a delusion. Who has seen God? Who can claim to know what he chose to look like at that moment? Can He shape shift, choose to look as He pleases? Do you bear a startling resemblance to the burning bush Moses saw and as the always truthful Bible reports? Your certainties are just delusion.
Now I don’t blame the younger generations. That is you. Still, the current civics are not living up to the S&H prophecy that the civics redefine the culture. Will the young people eventually live up to the prophecy? Will they become a force that establishes that disease should be cured, that racism should be put to bed, that infrastructure should be maintained, that the environment should be protected? At the moment, it does not seem clear. Will I be disappointed if the do nothing faction continues the existing trend? Yes. Will it go in forever? I hope not.