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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby Tom Mazanec » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:48 am

SHARKS (crossed out) MONGEESE (sic) WITH FRICKIN' LASER BEAMS ATTACHED TO THEIR HEADS

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby John » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:09 am

Useless degree wrote:> The Soviets didn't give up their section of the MR until after
> WW2.


OK, if what you say is true, then I must have misinterpreted
something.

Here's the quote from A History of China by Wolfram Eberhard:
https://archive.org/details/ost-history ... y_of_china


> "At the end ofthe first world war Japan had a hold
> over China amounting almost to military control ofthe country.
> China did not sign the Treaty of Versailles, because she
> considered that she had been duped by Japan, since Japan had
> driven the Germans out of China but had not returned the liberated
> territory to the Chinese. In 1921 peace was concluded with
> Germany, the German privileges being abolished. The same applied
> to Austria. Russia, immediately after the setting up ofthe Soviet
> government, had renounced all her rights under the
> Capitulations. This was the first step in the gradual rescinding
> ofthe Capitulations; the last of them went only in 1943, as a
> consequence of the difficult situation ofthe Europeans and
> Americans in the Pacific produced by the Second World War.

> At the end of the first world war the foreign powers revised their
> attitude towards China. The idea of territorial partitioning of
> the country was replaced by an attempt at financial exploitation;
> military friction between the Western powers and Japan was in this
> way to be minimized. Financial control was to be exercised by an
> international banking consortium (1920). It was necessary for
> political reasons that this committee should be joined by
> Japan. After her Twenty-one Demands, however, Japan was hated
> throughout China. During the world war she had given loans to the
> various governments and rebels, and in this way had secured one
> privilege after another. Consequently China declined the banking
> consortium She tried to secure capital from her own resources; but
> in the existing political situation and the acute economic
> depression internal loans had no success."


So the relevant quote here is:

"Russia .. had renounced all her rights under the Capitulations. This
was the first step in the gradual rescinding of the Capitulations; the
last of them went only in 1943."

I interpreted this to mean that Russia renounced all her rights in
1919, while the rights held by other countries were rescinded during
the period until 1943.

But if what you're saying is true then Wolfram Eberhard is wrong.
Russia did NOT "renounce all her rights" in 1919. So what did
Russia renounce in 1919?

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby Useless degree » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:25 pm

The Russians maintained control of the railway system that the czar had conned them out of after promising to give it back. The capitulations dealt with the legal rights of foreigners,etc.

What I'm saying is that the Russian are well known by the Chinese for being a pack of backstabbers.

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby FishbellykanakaDude » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:39 pm

Tom Mazanec wrote:Russian underwater Doomsday Device:
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia- ... reddit.com


Good thing that tsunamis are best dealt with FAR out to sea! Unless you're right over the "boom", of course.

..must get working faster on that tiny boat of mine...!!

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby Guest » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:56 am

Do North Korean missile tests mean a return to a war footing? Do you think Donald Trump will just ignore the tests? He doesn't seem interested in playing games with the North anymore. [b] Could he just ignore them and gear up for war with China?[/b] Possible?

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby John » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:50 am

** 15-Mar-2019 North Korea threatens to end denuclearization talks

North Korea's foreign minister Choe Son Hui threatened to suspend
denuclearization talks. According to Choe, as quoted by Tass and AP:

> We have no intention to yield to the U.S. demands (at
> the Hanoi summit) in any form, nor are we willing to engage in
> negotiations of this kind. ...

> I want to make it clear that the gangster-like stand of the
> U.S. will eventually put the situation in danger. We have neither
> the intention to compromise with the U.S. in any form nor much
> less the desire or plan to conduct this kind of negotiation. ...

> [But] personal relations between the two supreme leaders are still
> good and the chemistry is mysteriously wonderful."


Talk about a mixed message! Choe added that Kim would make an
official announcement soon, and that he might announce the resumption
oftests of ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons.

This is all theatre. North Korea never had any intention of ending
its nuclear missile program. The North's only reason for the
negotiations was to apply diplomatic pressure to force America to
agree to remove the sanctions, without the North having to make any
concessions whatsoever. That strategy collapsed when Donald Trump
walked out of the Hanoi summit.

Kim Jong-un tried to replay the same fraudulent script that his father
Kim Jong-il followed in 2008. At that time, the North demolished a
60-foot-tall cooling tower to prove that it was ending its nuclear
development programs. In reaction, the Bush administration agreed to
remove all sanctions. As soon as they were removed, North Korea
immediately and openly resumed its nuclear and ballistic missile
development. They had completely defrauded and humiliated the United
States and the world.

So now that Kim has failed to repeat his father's success, it's
the child dictator who is humiliated. He may feel that he has to
strike back to regain stature, and that might mean resumption of
testing.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo responded to Choe's statements:

> "It’s not the first time. I have a vague recollection
> of being called gangster-like from a visit I took one time
> previously. Following that, we continued to have very professional
> conversations where we tried our best to work together to
> represent our respective sides. I have every expectation that we
> will be able to continue to do that."


One thing that's become increasingly clear in the last year is that
China does not want North Korea to resume these tests. Thanks to the
North Korea tests, South Korea has deployed a THAAD missile defense
system that China absolutely hates. What China wants is for America
to withdraw forces from the region, but North Korea's tests cause the
opposite. They also provide support to Japan's hawks to implement its
own nuclear weapons.


--- Sources:

-- North Korea may suspend nuclear talks with 'gangster-like' U.S.:
diplomat
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nort ... SKCN1QW0C9
(Reuters)



-- Pompeo shoots down North Korea claim he created distrust, hostility
at summit
https://thehill.com/policy/national-sec ... -hostility
(The Hill)


--- Related:

*** 9-Mar-2019 South Korea's 3-layer missile defense system
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5168&p=44574#p44574



*** 12-Mar-2019 World View: Is China's economic boycott of South Korea thawing?

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5168&p=44501#p44501

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby Tom Mazanec » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:32 am

5 Reasons we are in this mess (generational cycles one of them):
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2019 ... this-mess/
Israel on verge of war with rest of Middle East:
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... -same-time
China ahead in hypersonic weapons:
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2019/03/china.html
SHARKS (crossed out) MONGEESE (sic) WITH FRICKIN' LASER BEAMS ATTACHED TO THEIR HEADS

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby Guest » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:01 am

Tom Mazanec wrote:5 Reasons we are in this mess (generational cycles one of them):
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2019 ... this-mess/
Israel on verge of war with rest of Middle East:
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... -same-time
China ahead in hypersonic weapons:
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2019/03/china.html

So I have been eating healthy and exercising for nothing? I've lost 40 pounds, feel great, and it's been all for naught?

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby FishbellykanakaDude » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:09 pm

Guest wrote:
Tom Mazanec wrote:5 Reasons we are in this mess (generational cycles one of them):
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2019 ... this-mess/
Israel on verge of war with rest of Middle East:
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... -same-time
China ahead in hypersonic weapons:
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2019/03/china.html

So I have been eating healthy and exercising for nothing? I've lost 40 pounds, feel great, and it's been all for naught?


Yes.

I mean, No.

..er,.. whaddayuh mean by "for nothing"?

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby Tom Mazanec » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:34 pm

Hypersonic ammunition for Chinese tanks:
http://english.chinamil.com.cn/view/201 ... 429639.htm
SHARKS (crossed out) MONGEESE (sic) WITH FRICKIN' LASER BEAMS ATTACHED TO THEIR HEADS


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