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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby JULLIEN1 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:51 am

To CH86
The only logical argument for "unconditional surrender" in WW2 was ideological. An idealist obsession with what happened after the enemy admits "you beat me" rather than getting that admission itself. There was no more long-term danger post-D-Day and post-Marianas turkey shoot from Germany or Japan. What would have been the alternatives to making nice with the west for Germany/Japan, an alliance with Stalinist Russia? LOL. Unconditional surrender was unnecessary because a German-Soviet or Japanese-Soviet alliance was impossible.

On a separate but related note, the Initial British intervention in Europe to guarantee Poland's integrity in the summer of 1939, made things much worse than it otherwise would have been. Had Britain remained neutral there simply would have been a Nazi-Soviet war over eastern Europe instead of the WW2 that we know; The Showdown between Hitler and Stalin would have been a bloodbath even worse than the historical eastern front, but the rest of the world would have been much better off. Instead Missionary generation washy-eyed idealists (the direct precursors of the current boomer globalists) forced their preferences down everyone's throats.

I'm afraid you're wrong. The "unconditional surrender" policy in WW2 was a way to avoid a repetition of the Dolchstoßlegende ("stab-in-the-back legend") used in the 1920's for denying any legitimacy to the Weimar Republic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth
As for the beginning of WW2 in Europe, Hitler believed world history was a struggle between races and imagined the future as one of wars of conquest until Germany was the undisputed master of the whole world. So, had he conquered Poland in the fall of 1939 without a declaration of war by France and Britain, the question would have been if he had to strike France before the USSR or the USSR before France, something which in his mind was just a step before the big push for world conquest.
In another subject, I miss the old formula of daily reports.

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby John » Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:17 pm

** 14-Apr-2019 Omar al-Bashir ousted in Sudan

Omar al-Bashir was ousted by the military in Sudan after months of
massive anti-government protests across the nation. This was a
"velvet coup" or "bloodless coup" occurring during a generational
Awakening era.

The military says that it will stay in charge until new "free and
fair" elections are held in three months. Also, the military promises
"reforms." Anti-government activists are saying that nothing has
changed, with an army general now in charge. They also say that, with
the military overseeing the election, the military will guarantee that
they're man will become the leader, so nothing will change after the
elections.

Societies all follow the same pattern in the decades following a
generational crisis civil war. The military will not give up power
under any circumstances, and after a while they'll no longer tolerate
the civilian protests, and start dispersing them with arrests,
beatings, jailings, rapes and torture.

Burner Prime

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby Burner Prime » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:58 am

JULLIEN1 wrote:To CH86
I'm afraid you're wrong. The "unconditional surrender" policy in WW2 was a way to avoid a repetition of the Dolchstoßlegende ("stab-in-the-back legend") used in the 1920's for denying any legitimacy to the Weimar Republic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth
As for the beginning of WW2 in Europe, Hitler believed world history was a struggle between races and imagined the future as one of wars of conquest until Germany was the undisputed master of the whole world. So, had he conquered Poland in the fall of 1939 without a declaration of war by France and Britain, the question would have been if he had to strike France before the USSR or the USSR before France, something which in his mind was just a step before the big push for world conquest.
In another subject, I miss the old formula of daily reports.


How does this explain the unconditional surrender requirements for Japan as well? Was there a corresponding 'Dolchstoßlegende repetition' to avoid?
The simpler, likelier (Occam's Razor) explanation is the one Navigator proposed. That was to win totally and completely by any means, unequivocal capitulation by all enemies. There was no tolerance or need for ambiguity that might allow any chance of reigniting hostilities or leave questions as to who was justified. The Allies had the means and will to totally annihilate the enemies.

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby John » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:19 pm

** 15-Apr-2019 World View: A New Arc of Instability in Northern Africa

A New Arc of Instability in Northern Africa

A wave of disorder and conflict is threatening states across northern
Africa, setting conditions for massive instability and the expansion
of the al Qaeda and Islamic State threat. Protests are challenging
repressive regimes in Algeria and Sudan, which share borders with a
Libya in the throes of its latest bout of civil war. These events are
part of a larger trend of potential state collapse that is spreading
from weak states with small populations—Libya, Mali, Somalia—to larger
states whose regimes have been perceived as secure—Algeria,
Sudan. This trend places states with very large populations—Ethiopia,
Nigeria, Egypt—increasingly under pressure. The Salafi-jihadi
movement, which includes al Qaeda and the Islamic State, is best
positioned to benefit from widespread instability.

- American Enterprise Institute

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby John » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:05 pm

** 15-Apr-2019 Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down

Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down. It's apparently a total
disaster. The entire structure is collapsing.


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/not ... index.html

JCP

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby JCP » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:56 am

John wrote:** 15-Apr-2019 Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down

Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down. It's apparently a total
disaster. The entire structure is collapsing.


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/not ... index.html

The cathedral burned down along with Western civilization.

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby FishbellykanakaDude » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:00 am

Cynic Hero 86 wrote:My Reply to John's Amritsar Massacre Article:

Selfish boomers aren't Content with "spreading democracy" (actually globalist tyranny) but instead boomers have the arrogance to dream of bringing back the Czars back to Russia and Undoing all of the 20th century Eurasian revolutions. The 19th century was NOT some golden age, boomer globalists. Bringing back Monarchy is literally the opposite of democracy which you claim to support, anyway.


I (personally) am a supporter of "Res Publica"-nism, and not a supporter of democracy qua democracy.

Representative government, where the representatives "represent (their constituents)" before a "deciding authority" is the "best worse" form of governance.

The tricky bit, of course, is choosing the right "deciding authority".

The "best" solution to that tricky situation is to guarantee that the represented (the constituents of the representatives) are capable of overthrowing the "deciding authority" if that authority becomes tyrannical.

Czars are great, if they aren't tyrannical, as are Kings, Khans and Emperors.

The problem with doofusses such as your lovely self is that you have no problem with tyrants as long as they aren't "globalist" tyrants.

The sensible, such as my lovely self, have no problem with globalists or nationalists WITHIN nations, as long as they're not tyrants.

To be clear, to be a globalist "deciding authority" chosen by a like-minded representative (national) body who tries to impose "globalism" on ANOTHER NATION is, by definition, a tyrant,.. and is likely to be "fought off" by those who don't like tyrants (such as myself).

Tyrants always seek to hide behind "stupid laws" (such as ridiculous extra-contextual "international laws") so as to continue their tyrannical unrepresentative "wants and desires" to enrich themselves and their cronies.

Your psychopathic hatred of your elders is based on your own (megalomaniacal and delusional) desire to be allowed to benefit from those (via punishment) who "should" (in your opinion) want you to represent them, but don't.
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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby FishbellykanakaDude » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:08 am

JCP wrote:
John wrote:** 15-Apr-2019 Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down

Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down. It's apparently a total
disaster. The entire structure is collapsing.


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/not ... index.html

The cathedral burned down along with Western civilization.


It hasn't actually. :)

Expect a boost in French nationalism, and "Western" nationalism, very soon. Perhaps even "muscular Catholic" nationalism.

We'll see what the French, whom I fault monumentally for being incredibly incompetent, do to rebuild and protect our heritage.

..but you've got to be pretty fucking stupid to think that The West is that fragile.

Do we really need such panty waist little bitches as this "JCP" to tell us about Western Civilization?

..really?


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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

Postby Guest » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:18 am

FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
JCP wrote:
John wrote:** 15-Apr-2019 Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down

Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down. It's apparently a total
disaster. The entire structure is collapsing.


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/not ... index.html

The cathedral burned down along with Western civilization.


It hasn't actually. :)

Expect a boost in French nationalism, and "Western" nationalism, very soon. Perhaps even "muscular Catholic" nationalism.

We'll see what the French, whom I fault monumentally for being incredibly incompetent, do to rebuild and protect our heritage.

..but you've got to be pretty fucking stupid to think that The West is that fragile.

Do we really need such panty waist little bitches as this "JCP" to tell us about Western Civilization?

..really?


So, let's see. The mass immigration of migrants flooding into Europe and raping, robbing, murdering across the continent was not enough to boost 'muscular Catholicism' or western nationalism, but the burning down of this church will? You know, sometimes I really have to question some of the posts on this board. Your arguments have always been schizophrenic, but this one is just stupid.

Europe is a collection people--a bloodline, DNA, culture, and language. The destruction of its people is more cause for concern than the destruction of a building. An yet, Europe continues to plow ahead with its own self destruction. But you believe that this event will spur western nationalism and the Church Militant? HAHAHAHA Good one. I'm going to have to add this one to my little red book stupid things stupid people say.

Western civilization won't be saved by weirdos like you, fishbelly. It will be saved by men who clearly recognize that Western Civilization is in trouble and endangered; not because a building burned down, but because of flip-flopping, smug, ignorant losers like fishbelly.

You're the panty waist, fishbelly, not the others you constantly attack for being 'racist'.


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