** 27-Sep-2020 World View: Religious societies
Cool Breeze wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:15 pm
> Why does critical analysis bother you so much John? I'm not
> against you. I just find that the grouping of people into
> religious categories when NOT justified by their religion (mostly
> in Islam it is, and is encourage, so it is useful) is not helpful
> to understanding life, religion or people. We know that "groups"
> have a tendency to be tribal or violent depending on their status,
> situation, or defensive nature. That's all that needs to be said
> UNLESS it is actually a religion promoting it. That's all I'm
> saying.
> Why do you keep insisting that there are no differences in
> religion - in fact you have said there are, so your analysis is
> conflicting even. Islamic and Christian societies are remarkably
> different, and always have been, based on what they do and the
> religion they have (both). Actions do matter, that's why people
> when they have been able to, have moved to advanced christian
> societies (mainly European). And that's more evidence that
> religions aren't the same. You wouldn't move to islamic societies
> precisely because religions
ARE different.
So first you say that "grouping of people into religious categories
... is not helpful to understanding life, religion or people." I
assume that you must be adopting some ideologic globalist or leftist
view of all people being the same. And yet, in real life, people form
identity groups based on religion, ethnicity, race, skin color, etc.,
and they fight wars over those identity groups. Maybe grouping people
isn't helpful to you, but it is helpful to me and to almost everyone
else in the world.
And then in your next paragraph, you go on to say that grouping
Christian and Muslim communities is helpful. In other words, you
adopt the globalist/leftist point of view when it's convenient for
you, and then you turn around and adopt an extremely harsh grouping of
religious societies when that's convenient for you. I'd like to make
the suggestion that you try some "lazy thinking," because that would
be better than your current situation, when you aren't doing any
thinking whatsoever.
And by the way, you have absolutely no clue about anything in Islam.
I suggest you spend the $7 on my book on Iran and Islam, and read it,
so that you won't be talking from total ignorance.
And the reason that I said that you're full of crap is because you're
full of crap.
Cool Breeze wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:15 pm
> is unbecoming of an 80 year old man who is learned, for the same
> reasons. Especially when the person talking to him is educated and
> knowledgeable, and not against him.
Lol! Didn't your parents tell you to respect your elders, because
they almost always know more than you do? I suggest that you be more
respectful, and stop using phrases like "set and formed by western
secularism/materialism" and "lazy way of thinking" and "confuses and
permeates, even John." I love people like you who think that your
moronic attacks on other people make you morally superior, when you're
really totally full of crap.
P.S.: I'm not 80.