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** 30-Sep-2020 World View: Protection from "friends"

Cool Breeze wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:37 am

> Things are making more sense to me now, Tom. Thanks for the
> question. John doesn't like my critique and his believing in "the
> singularity" then denying that he is a scientific materialist
> tells me all that I need to know. I still am confused why he
> thinks I'm an enemy and calls me names though. One should
> understand legit, intelligent criticism and respond to it in order
> to grow. That's why I'm here; also to be convinced if reason and
> logic use facts to come to conclusions. But I see a lot of
> religious thinking around here, ironically.

> John, you are much older than me. On a few things it is of course
> possible you may be wiser. I find you have many insights, but you
> are stubborn. Tell me, why should I trust a man's generalizations
> about religion when he isn't even interested enough to know the
> tenets of his own (supposed) inherited faith, eastern orthodox
> christianity? You don't know that but you presume I don't know
> anything about Islam? That's both laughable and incredible (in the
> literal sense of the word).

> If you believe that technology will "figure things out" and it
> can't be stopped, Moore's Law, etc you are part of the secular
> scientific materialist crowd. This is a spinoff of the faith or
> belief system called progressivism. Some of the
> Singularity/Futurist guys I often interact with are simultaneously
> very high IQ but lack humility about what they don't know about
> what being human is, or what wisdom is, and why it matters. Kartik
> Gada over at the Futurist is another great example. You all share
> these traits, and it's quite intriguing to me. I'd recommend
> people looking at these guys because they have major insights but
> don't realize they follow their own religion and it is a false
> one. It's funny also when futurists keep saying X will happen and
> ... it never does. Or is nowhere near where there prediction was,
> or the quality of it.

Could someone please protect me from my "friends"? I'll try to handle
my enemies myself.

I'll move on to other topics then, since any analysis or questions seems to be a bit too much for you. I really like a lot of your stuff, I don't see why you are so defensive.

** 30-Sep-2020 World View: Topics

Cool Breeze wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:57 pm

> I'll move on to other topics then, since any analysis or questions
> seems to be a bit too much for you. I really like a lot of your
> stuff, I don't see why you are so defensive.

Sounds like a good idea. Try to pick topics where you aren't
completely full of crap.

John, if I could "like" your post I would! You have attracted a strange bunch of "friends." Se if any will take you to lunch.

** 30-Sep-2020 World View: Strange friends

shoshin wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:42 pm

> John, if I could "like" your post I would! You have attracted a
> strange bunch of "friends." See if any will take you to
> lunch.

Lol! No, I think you're the only one willing to do that. But you're
right -- the people in this forum are very strange, though none
stranger than I am.

John wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:11 pm

** 30-Sep-2020 World View: Topics

Cool Breeze wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:57 pm

> I'll move on to other topics then, since any analysis or questions
> seems to be a bit too much for you. I really like a lot of your
> stuff, I don't see why you are so defensive.

Sounds like a good idea. Try to pick topics where you aren't
completely full of crap.

Even when I try to pivot, you still have to be a prick. Great job.

Still, I'd buy you lunch. Because I'm not worried about people's feelings, nor am I insecure.

** 01-Oct-2020 World View: Armenia and Azerbaijan continue fighting over Nagorno-Karabakh

• Map of Armenia and Azerbaijan with current status of Nagorno-Karabakh battles (BBC)

Both Azerbaijan and Armenia are rejecting calls for a ceasefire, and
the fighting is continuing with artillery shelling on both sides,
killing dozens and wounding hundreds. The war is focused on
Nagorno-Karabakh, an enclave within Azerbaijan's boundaries, but
populated by ethnic Armenians who govern the enclave, as I described
in my recent article.

** 28-Sep-20 World View -- Armenia warns of 'full-scale war' with Azerbaijan over Nagorno-Karabakh
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e200928


Turkey has clearly stated that it is an ally of its Turkic brother
Azerbaijan, and will participate in the fighting against Armenia if
called on. Armenia and Turkey have had extremely hostile relations
since 1915, when 1.5 million Armenians were killed in Turkey.

Russia is an ally of Armenia and has a military base in Armenia, but
is remaining neutral for the time being and calling for a ceasefire.

According to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, Turkey has
transported about 900 Syrian mercenaries to Azerbaijan to take part in
the fighting. The organization adds that Armenian-born fighters in
Syria have also been transported to Armenia to join the fight. There
have also been unconfirmed reports that Armenia has transferred
Kurdish mercenaries from Syria.

Turkey is a member of Nato, and other Nato countries are criticizing
Turkey for threatening to get involved in the Azerbaijan-Armenia war.
France has a large ethnic Armenian population, and France's president
Emmanuel Macron said:

"I have noted Turkey’s political statements, which I
think are reckless and dangerous.

France remains extremely concerned about the warlike comments that
Turkey made ... which essentially remove any inhibitions from
Azerbaijan in what would be a reconquest of Nagorno-Karabakh. That
we will not accept."

Azerbaijan’s President Ilham Aliyev demanded that Armenia withdraw all
its troops. If "the Armenian government fulfils the demand, fighting
and bloodshed will end, and peace will be established in the region."

Wow! Peace! Who can resist?

***
*** Military arsenals of Armenia and Azerbaijan
***

• Military arsenals of Armenia and Azerbaijan (Al-Jazeera)

---- Sources:

-- Armenia-Azerbaijan: Both sides defy Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire
calls
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54366616
(BBC, 1-Oct-2020)

-- Putin, Macron call for Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire as deaths mount
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/ ... aths-mount
(Al-Jazeera, 1-Oct-2020)

-- Infographic: Military arsenals of Armenia and Azerbaijan
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/ ... azerbaijan
(Al-Jazeera, 1-Oct-2020)

-- France and Turkey at odds as Karabakh fighting divides NATO allies
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-arme ... SKBN26L106
(Reuters, 1-Oct-2020)

-- Two French reporters 'injured' amid Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... n-conflict
(Guardian, London, 1-Oct-2020)

-- Macron slams Erdogan’s ‘reckless, dangerous’ statements on
Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1742286/world
(Arab News, 1-Oct-2020)

I have earlier posted about the US Presidential Election heading to the House of Representatives, and how, if this happened, pandemonium would ensue.

The issue with mail in balloting is not the potential fraud that Trump and others are touting. Instead, it may just be the daunting task of just counting them.

The other day I saw an increadibly insightful article on this by Ted Rall on Rasmussen's website (polling firm).

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public ... nding_doom

From the article:

"The date to remember is Dec. 14, when the delegations of the Electoral College meet in their respective states. That's a hard deadline. Each delegation can only certify their state's vote counts if they are 100% complete -- machine votes cast in person at polling places on Election Day, early votes, absentee ballots, write-ins and, this year, COVID-19 mail-in ballots. If the state fails to certify on time, its Electoral College votes aren't counted.

Within each state, there is a canvassing/certification deadline for county officials to submit their results. Most are in late November. California, with a Dec. 11 deadline, cuts it close and usually files its national certification last.

State election officials are doing their best to meet the challenge. They are hiring additional staff, buying new tabulation machines and installing drop boxes. Even assuming that they will be able to hire the additional personnel they need in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic, the practical impediments to meeting the Dec. 14 deadline are daunting. Mail-in ballots are manually opened, and signatures must be visually compared, sometimes several times, to Board of Election records."

If enough "certified" electoral votes are not there to give either candidate a majority, the election goes to the House. Then each state gets 1 vote per congressional delegation. Results of individual voting is out the window, AS INTENDED by the CONSTITUTION.

** 01-Oct-2020 World View: Balloting chaos and Dred Scott

Navigator wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:02 pm

> I have earlier posted about the US Presidential Election heading
> to the House of Representatives, and how, if this happened,
> pandemonium would ensue.

> The issue with mail in balloting is not the potential fraud that
> Trump and others are touting. Instead, it may just be the daunting
> task of just counting them.

> The other day I saw an increadibly insightful article on this by
> Ted Rall on Rasmussen's website (polling firm).

> https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public ... nding_doom

> From the article:

> "The date to remember is Dec. 14, when the delegations of the
> Electoral College meet in their respective states. That's a hard
> deadline. Each delegation can only certify their state's vote
> counts if they are 100% complete -- machine votes cast in
> person at polling places on Election Day, early votes, absentee
> ballots, write-ins and, this year, COVID-19 mail-in ballots. If
> the state fails to certify on time, its Electoral College votes
> aren't counted.

> Within each state, there is a canvassing/certification deadline
> for county officials to submit their results. Most are in late
> November. California, with a Dec. 11 deadline, cuts it close and
> usually files its national certification last.

> State election officials are doing their best to meet the
> challenge. They are hiring additional staff, buying new tabulation
> machines and installing drop boxes. Even assuming that they will
> be able to hire the additional personnel they need in the midst of
> the coronavirus pandemic, the practical impediments to meeting the
> Dec. 14 deadline are daunting. Mail-in ballots are manually
> opened, and signatures must be visually compared, sometimes
> several times, to Board of Election records."

> If enough "certified" electoral votes are not there to give
> either candidate a majority, the election goes to the House.
> Then each state gets 1 vote per congressional delegation. Results
> of individual voting is out the window, AS INTENDED by the
> CONSTITUTION.

A few days ago, I described how the Supreme Court's 1857 Dred Scott
decision, which some claim (incorrectly I believe) was the cause of
the Civil War, has led the Court to set as its primary objective the
preservation of the Union. I believe that was a factor in the Bush vs
Gore decisions in 2000, whose main purpose was not to elect Bush,
though that was the outcome, but to force the election to a
conclusion.

So the issue you describe is exactly the kind of issue where the
Supreme Court can intervene. Yes, the December 14 date is a hard
date, but if the Supreme Court can find a reason in the Constitution
to support abortion, then the Supreme Court can find a reason in the
Constitution to delay the Electoral College vote in order to avoid
chaos and preserve the Union. In view of the pandemic and mail-in
balloting, there would be plenty of justification for any such
decision, provided that the decision is seen as non-partisan, and
necessary for the election to reach closure.

It's still possible for the election to be thrown into the House of
Representatives, but I would expect the Supreme Court to do what it
can to prevent that.

John wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:38 am

Both Azerbaijan and Armenia are rejecting calls for a ceasefire, and the fighting is continuing with artillery shelling on both sides, killing dozens and wounding hundreds.

John wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:38 am

According to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, Turkey has transported about 900 Syrian mercenaries to Azerbaijan to take part in the fighting. The organization adds that Armenian-born fighters in Syria have also been transported to Armenia to join the fight. There have also been unconfirmed reports that Armenia has transferred Kurdish mercenaries from Syria.

John, in my opinion the only reason this conflict has escalated (rather than died down as you previously predicted) is because of Turkey's meddling. Armenia and Azerbaijan are in Awakening eras, but Turkey is in a Crisis era. Armenia and Azerbaijan don't want war, but Turkey does. And what's a better way to escalate things than deploying al-Qaeda-affiliated militants from Syria who have no business to even be there?

John wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:38 am

Russia is an ally of Armenia and has a military base in Armenia, but is remaining neutral for the time being and calling for a ceasefire.

Perhaps the reason why Russia is not engaging in escalatory acts of its own (as of yet) is because Russia, like Armenia and Azerbaijan, is in an Awakening era.