28-Jul-18 World View -- Saudi Arabia suspends Red Sea oil shipments after Yemen Houthi missile strikes tanker

[John]

28-Jul-18 World View -- Saudi Arabia suspends Red Sea oil shipments after Yemen Houthi missile strikes tanker


Saudis renew airstrikes on Houthis in Yemen's Hodeidah seaport

** 28-Jul-18 World View -- Saudi Arabia suspends Red Sea oil shipments after Yemen Houthi missile strikes tanker
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e180728



Contents:
Saudi Arabia suspends Red Sea oil shipments after Yemen Houthi missile strikes tanker
Saudis renew airstrikes on Houthis in Yemen's Hodeidah seaport


Keys:
Generational Dynamics,
Generational Dynamics, Yemen, Houthis, Iran, Saudi Arabia,
United Arab Emirates, UAE, Hodeidah, Sanaa,
Bab al-Mandeb, Red Sea, Suez Canal, Persian Gulf,
Saudi Aramco

[Silent Guest 2]

Saudi's are not poor. They have weapons and access to buy more. Unless Russia, Iran or China have ambitions to interfere in poverty striken Yemen, this points to higher oil prices. Interesting that the Saudi prince recently graced DC with his presence. So many players.
You will note the UN seems uninvolved. After all, it's weekend party time.

[Goose]

Saudi Arabia has to decide what it wants to do wimp out like normal, that is p*ss, moan, complain and expect someone else like the US to fix it for them OR stand up and take the action that will secure their place in the world. The problem is that they have always hired someone else to do their work for them so they well may not know how. A society that is top down with many living on government handouts is not a society that is going to want fight for their place in the world.

Their incursion into the Yemini port was a good example of how not to do it. Underestimating your effort needed (that means little or no good on the ground intelligence or officers selected on social position and not merit) and then gradual escalation is a formula for disaster. What happened with Gulf One happened on their soil; build up and then strike with overwhelming force. But I do not believe they have the skills or the manpower to put it together or maybe to even recognize how to do the job.

Lastly they are really up against Iran. This is a country (Iran) that has spent the last twenty years or so building a armed force with many facets and honing those skills in every dust up whether or not of their making. The Saudis face a combat experienced force who is spreading their skills to whomever will advance the cause.

They are used to being the kid most picked on in school and are unchanged since the British set them up many years ago. So I guess that they will eventually submit to Iran's will and be the obedient. After all Islam = Submission.

Goose

[Guest]

So I guess that they will eventually submit to Iran's will and be the obedient. After all Islam = Submission.

Goose

Sunni and Shia are incompatible with each other. The Sunnis will never submit to the Shia. Never.

[John]

> Saudi's are not poor. They have weapons and access to buy more.
> Unless Russia, Iran or China have ambitions to interfere in
> poverty striken Yemen, this points to higher oil prices.
> Interesting that the Saudi prince recently graced DC with his
> presence. So many players. You will note the UN seems
> uninvolved. After all, it's weekend party time.

> Their incursion into the Yemini port was a good example of how not
> to do it. Underestimating your effort needed (that means little
> or no good on the ground intelligence or officers selected on
> social position and not merit) and then gradual escalation is a
> formula for disaster. What happened with Gulf One happened on
> their soil; build up and then strike with overwhelming force. But
> I do not believe they have the skills or the manpower to put it
> together or maybe to even recognize how to do the job.

All my life I've been reading about wars that could be won quickly
with air power, but they never are, and it's always because "we/they
never had the will to win."

This attack on Hodeidah never had a chance, and I gave numerous
reasons in my original article:

** 15-Jun-18 World View -- Saudi Arabia and UAE launch a 'catastrophic' assault on Port Hodeidah in Yemen
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e180615

The reasons listed in that article are as follows:

• Hodeidah is densely populated.
• The Houthis are embedded in the population.
• The Saudis have no experience in urban fighting.
• There's the potential of a humanitarian catastrophe.
• The UN, the Americans, the British are all pressuring the
  Saudis to keep civilian casualties to a minimum.

The only thin reed of hope that the Saudis had was that some tribes
loyal to Saleh would switch sides and support the Saudis.

Comparisons to other wars are fatuous.

The Vietnam War was a generational crisis civil war for the
Vietnamese. The Americans were irrelevant bystanders, albeit targets.
Bombing the North did no good. Even nuking the North would have done
no good. A generational crisis war is a force of nature, and it was
going to end the way it did no matter what the Americans did.

Gulf War One was fought against an enemy in a generational Recovery
era, following the Iran/Iraq war. The Iraqi soldiers were tired and
war weary, just like the the American soldiers fighting in the Korean
war. The Americans were asking themselves, "I just fought in a war.
Why the hell are we fighting in Korea?" The Iraqi soldiers were
asking themselves, "I just fought in a war. Why the hell are we
fighting in Kuwait?" So the Americans won against the war-weary
Iraqis, but the lessons there don't apply in any way to Hodeidah.

> Saudi Arabia has to decide what it wants to do wimp out like
> normal, that is p*ss, moan, complain and expect someone else like
> the US to fix it for them OR stand up and take the action that
> will secure their place in the world. The problem is that they
> have always hired someone else to do their work for them so they
> well may not know how. A society that is top down with many
> living on government handouts is not a society that is going to
> want fight for their place in the world.

I referenced some reports that suggest that the Saudis closed Bab
al-Mandeb to their oil tankers is to "internationalize" the war --
meaning, as you say, to get someone else to clean it up.