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Re: AT&T Phone Glitch

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Another guest wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:52 am
If a simple glitch will bring down the US system, the system will turn to dust when the Chinese and Russian launch a full scale cyberattack on us.
Thing is, the opposite counterattack would also be devastating. I doubt they will like the overall effect.

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

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** 25-Feb-2024 World View: The boiling frog
Bob Butler wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:30 pm
> It is not just that systems become
> more dysfunctional, they change.
> With computers, Ks of memory become
> Ms, and the code gets so complex you
> don’t manually overwrite it anymore.
> If you study the industrial Age as
> S&H did, it is easy to conclude that
> major changes to a culture require a
> crisis war. which comes once a
> generation. If you study ages, you
> question whether in the Information
> Age with its nukes, proxy wars,
> computers and effective democracy
> requires a crisis war for cultures
> to change. Thus, everybody here is
> predicting violence which from a
> more broad perspective is obsolete.

> The frog getting boiled would be
> better off jumping out of the pot.
> Some so enjoy the idea of warm baths
> they get boiled.
The boiling frog is an apt analogy
because the frog cannot escape and will
be boiled no matter what he tries to do.

The first point is that a principle of
generational theory is that each new
generation causes major changes to a
culture. Thus, the 1970s culture was
very different than the 1950s culture,
and today's culture is very different
than the 1970s culture. These major
changes occur equally in the information
age, the industrial age, and the
agriculture age, and in all societies
and nations throughout time.

However, there is no crisis war each
generation. There is a generational
crisis war after roughly four
generational changes. In the frog
analogy, the frog does not die each time
the water gets a little warmer. The
frog only dies when the water starts
boiling -- the analogy of a crisis war.

The second point is that the population
grows exponentially, exceeding the
available food and other resources,
requiring genocidal generational crisis
wars at regular intervals, killing
enough people so that there's enough
food for the survivors. This is true in
every age, every nation, every society,
and every nation, as well as the world
as a whole.

You can see this in action today. There
are large food and water shortages
everywhere, resulting in massive refugee
migrations in Africa, Europe, Asia,
South America, and North America. The
result today that the world is on fire.

Returning now to the frog analogy, the
frog may decide to try to hop out of the
pot if he can, but where will he go?
Chances are that he'll land in another
pot, where the water is also approaching
a boil. So unless the frog is lucky
enough to land in cold water, he's going
to boil.

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

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John, you always say that crisis wars are necessary because there is not enough food and the population must be reduced. But has any war reduced population on a large scale? WW2 killed something like fifty million, but world population was over two billion and probably grew during the war (albeit not as fast as it would have otherwise). And WW2 was the biggest yet.
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

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Tom Mazanec wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:24 pm
John, you always say that crisis wars are necessary because there is not enough food and the population must be reduced. But has any war reduced population on a large scale? WW2 killed something like fifty million, but world population was over two billion and probably grew during the war (albeit not as fast as it would have otherwise). And WW2 was the biggest yet.
I poked at the figures a little. In general, the improvement in medicine has left the population steadily increasing. Still, if you look at Germany in both world wars and Russia in the second the decreases are significant. Still, in Japan there was no big drop.

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

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John wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:51 pm
The first point is that a principle of generational theory is that each new generation causes major changes to a culture. Thus, the 1970s culture was very different than the 1950s culture, and today's culture is very different than the 1970s culture. These major changes occur equally in the information age, the industrial age, and the agriculture age, and in all societies and nations throughout time.

However, there is no crisis war each generation. There is a generational crisis war after roughly four generational changes. In the frog analogy, the frog does not die each time the water gets a little warmer. The frog only dies when the water starts boiling -- the analogy of a crisis war.
Going back to S&H, the theory was that societies change in different ways in different turnings. In a crisis, I have focused on independence, equality, anti slavery, weaker large landowners yielding to robber barons, government regulation of the economy, and containment. That doesn’t touch on other types of change. We might build infrastructure in the high, develop new ideals and ideas in the awakening, and exploit the system financially in the unravelling. It is possible to admit change happens continuously, but there is still a patten of change.

Similarly, hunter gatherer tribes are not the same as agricultural empires are not the same as industrial democracies. There is a pattern to the ages, as there are different civilizations.

This crisis the US is dealing with a white culture trying to impose its preferences on other cultures who do not appreciate the bias. Bigots and religious fanatics hurrah! The meaning of all men are created equal is expanding. More people would rather be themselves than be forced by government to comply to one dominant culture.

There are some changes that may not fit so well with turnings, ages and civilization. Is there a pattern to how entertainment, music, automobiles, aircraft and housekeeping develop? Don’t much care. I have not dug into them.

But it seems like Generational Dynamics is becoming a theory of history which proposes that is no theory of history. There are no patterns. I’d rather stick with the patterns, including that that humans love their neighbor and hate the different. I would rather not emphasize the latter in one’s own culture.

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Tucker Carlson's interview of Putin is honestly his best one ever.

It confirms everything we knew about the war. That it wasn't about NATO's expansion but Russian imperial expansion.

The irony of this all is that Tucker was running excuses for Putin earlier by blaming the US and not Russian (Putin's) internal motivations. Now he won't be able to.

Tucker didn't want to hear Putin's historical lecture (Putin's casus belli for why Ukraine doesn't exist) and that is why he was interrupting him so much. What Putin said in this interview completely overrides every single excuse that Tucker has previously assigned to him.

Major Putin L, major Tucker W, even though he didn't plan for it.

So Russia lovers, remember: this is your current narrative. Russia is at war with Ukraine not because of US has provoked it or NATO has expended too close into Russia's borders but because Ukraine doesn't exist and that is why it must be ruled by Moscow.

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Bob Butler wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:07 pm
This crisis the US is dealing with a white culture trying to impose its preferences on other cultures who do not appreciate the bias. Bigots and religious fanatics hurrah! The meaning of all men are created equal is expanding. More people would rather be themselves than be forced by government to comply to one dominant culture.
Thus Critical Race Theory, which labels white people evil, is necessary.

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Evil?

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guest wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:38 am
Bob Butler wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:07 pm
This crisis the US is dealing with a white culture trying to impose its preferences on other cultures who do not appreciate the bias. Bigots and religious fanatics hurrah! The meaning of all men are created equal is expanding. More people would rather be themselves than be forced by government to comply to one dominant culture.
Thus Critical Race Theory, which labels white people evil, is necessary.
The evil is conservatives trying to force people to be what they don't want to be, Trans people want to be of the opposite sex, and conservatives don't let them. Minorities and LGBQ people would rather be themselves and with their own kind, but conservatives want to impose their own cultures, believing it to be superior.

Hey. I'm white. I don't see myself as evil. I don't try to force my culture and religion on others, or practice racism. It isn't being white that makes a person evil.

There seems to be a stereotype that males are more competitive and females relate to people better. This stereotype is not universally true. Some people are the reverse. I would as soon they didn't have to announce it through clothing and mannerisms, but some seem to want to. Hey, let them be what they want to be rather than try to force them to be what they aren't.

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Aaron Bushnell, the liberal leftist airman who immolated himself, did not die in vain. Like the first female suicide bomber, he has now doubled the number of people the regime must worry about. Biden purged the Right from the military. Now he must fear the Left.

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

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John wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:51 pm
The boiling frog is an apt analogy
because the frog cannot escape and will
be boiled no matter what he tries to do.

The first point is that a principle of
generational theory is that each new
generation causes major changes to a
culture. Thus, the 1970s culture was
very different than the 1950s culture,
and today's culture is very different
than the 1970s culture. These major
changes occur equally in the information
age, the industrial age, and the
agriculture age, and in all societies
and nations throughout time.

However, there is no crisis war each
generation. There is a generational
crisis war after roughly four
generational changes. In the frog
analogy, the frog does not die each time
the water gets a little warmer. The
frog only dies when the water starts
boiling -- the analogy of a crisis war.

The second point is that the population
grows exponentially, exceeding the
available food and other resources,
requiring genocidal generational crisis
wars at regular intervals, killing
enough people so that there's enough
food for the survivors. This is true in
every age, every nation, every society,
and every nation, as well as the world
as a whole.

You can see this in action today. There
are large food and water shortages
everywhere, resulting in massive refugee
migrations in Africa, Europe, Asia,
South America, and North America. The
result today that the world is on fire.
I am old and I have never seen America in such a state of unease. The government has turned on the people and has gotten out of control. There used to be a sense of unity but now it has fragmented into “special” groups. No one feels safe anymore, no one goes to the big cities because of drugs and gangs. There is a sense of something going to happen and it is not going to end well. Society and culture has declined.

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