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Nathan Redshield

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Kraft wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 12:26 pm
The suburbs vs the inner cities is about to become to most uneven teeter totter ever. You could live in the inner city with high taxes, high crime, rioters burning and looting businesses and expensive rent. Or, you could live in the suburbs with lower taxes, less crime, less crazy left wingers and more land to raise a family with lower prices for housing.

I think these large tech companies might rethink their location strategy. The logic for a long time has been recruiting talent is made easy when you locate in NYC or Boston near the ivy-leagues. Post Covid, they may move to more business friendly locations where they don’t pay high taxes for Cuomo’s bullet trains.
That's Gavin Newsome's Bullet Trains out in CA. Cuomo's NY trains are slightly more sensible and not quite so expensive. The Gateway Project is Palladium-plated, but the Portal Bridge component costs so much more because they must build long ramps to go from a 12-foot drawbridge clearance over a navigable river to 50-foot fixed bridge clearance. Still $1.2 bill IS a lot for it--when you consider that the original PRR line to Penn Station and the Long Island RR cost $110 million in 1910 without interest included. The Hell Gate Bridge was a separate project making it possible to go thru NYC by train finally in 1917. What no one mentions is that about 20 years ago the ex-DL&W Morris & Essex trains were largely routed from Hoboken Terminal's PATH (ex-Hudson Tubes) to run into Penn Station. Result is that they're running a lot more trains to Penn Station than 20 years ago. They want to build two new tunnels to handle that and future traffic growth. What worries me is are they going to take any protection for high water? That's what flooded the tunnels and destroyed hundreds of millions in new equipment in 2012. Climate Change isn't going to help them--lucky NYC that the Great Hurricane of 1821 hit near low tide as did a storm in 1894. A Great Hurricane of 1821 at high tide would put New York permanently out of business today. But I don't expect New York to de-populate enough to change the train volumes much. We'll see..

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Guest wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 12:57 pm
Who is going to want to pay higher taxes for less security around people who quite frankly view you as an oppressor. Cities are dead.
American cities like New York might die, but not London. British people aren't racist like Americans. We have a better understanding of people and have not been fed a steady diet of Fox News.
Cuck island.

Britons are so non-racial they let the muslim grooming gangs rape and exploit young British girls.

Your muslim mayor is proud of you failing to see the causation between muslims and acid attacks though.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5

Nathan Redshield

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John wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 11:33 am
** 31-May-2020 World View: Racial Riots and the Ku Klux Klan


We're in the midst of continuing racial riots in numerous cities
across the country, with property destruction in some cities.
Some people are predicting civil war, and one person in this
forum are comparing America to South Africa. (Why not Syria?)

But I've lived a long time, and I've seen several race riots, so I
don't share any of these dystopian views. The ones that stick out in
my mind are the Los Angeles Watts riots in 1965, the attacks on the
Democratic political convention in Chicago in 1968, and the Rodney
King riots in Los Angeles in 1992. These incidents all fizzled within
a few weeks, or by the end of the summer, and the press commentary was
pretty unanimous that the rioters were mostly blacks fighting each
other or looting black-owned businesses. I've always considered that
to be, well, peculiar, since while the riots were on, the commentary
was that the rioters angry about the police. At least in my memory, I
can't recall any incidents that the black rioters formed battalions to
attack and kill policemen or white residents.

As far as I can tell, the same kinds of things are happening now.
Black rioters are destroying businesses in their own neighborhoods,
with no attempts to kill or even confront policemen, although one
vacant police station was burned down. The only two major corporate
targets that I heard in the news were the Target store in Minneapolis
and CNN headquarters in Atlanta. Apparently blacks are furious at
Target for supporting law enforcement ever since the occurrence of a
crime spike in Minneapolis in the mid-1990s. And CNN, of course, is a
Democratic party target, like the Democratic national convention in
1968. In both cases, the result was looting, but no physical
violence. So the point is that the black rioters seem to be targeting
each other and other Democrats.

***
*** Racial violence and the Ku Klux Klan (KKK)
***

I'm hearing commentary saying that Derek Chauvin, the white policeman
who murdered Floyd George, the black victim, was a "white
supremacist." I've also heard commentary that Chauvin's acts were
typical of racist incidents that have been going on in America for
centuries, including slavery, lynching, and Jim Crow laws.

All of that is almost certainly true, although most the people making
those criticisms don't have the vaguest clue of the meaning of those
claims.

Chauvin held his knee on George's neck for over 8 minutes, when George
was saying, "I can't breathe." Why would anybody do anything so vile?
It's incomprehensible. If it had been for 8 seconds, it might have
been attributed to normal police work, but 8 minutes goes so far
beyond "normal" that it's clear that Chauvin must have some enormous
mental issues.

But in fact, Chauvin's behaviour actually was "normal" for a certain
group of people -- members of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK). For more than a
century following the American Civil War, KKK members tortured, raped
and lynched blacks, doing exactly the kinds of things that Chauvin was
doing, or worse.

I haven't found any news reports describing Chauvin's early life, but
it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was an admirer of the KKK,
and may have been the descendant of some Grand Kleagle (or whatever
the title is) of some great KKK leader.

The Civil War opposed the North versus the South. Abraham Lincoln was
the first Republican president, and he was hated by the Democrats as
much as Donald Trump is hated today. The Democrats opposed the war
and Lincoln's handling of the war, and demanded that Lincoln negotiate
a settlement and end the war. According to the 1864 Democratic party
platform, "The aim and object of the Democratic party is to preserve
the Federal Union and the rights of the States unimpaired," meaning
that slavery would continue as before. The support of "states rights"
became a key Democratic party policy for well over a century,
especially in the "Democratic South."

That's not to say that all Democrats were in favor of slavery. The
point is that the Democrats were deeply split on this issue. The
Republicans were pretty much unanimous in opposing slavery, and the
1864 Republican platform said, "That as slavery was the cause, and now
constitutes the strength of this rebellion, ... justice and the
national safety demand its utter and complete extirpation from the
soil of the Republic." So Republicans unanimously opposed slavery,
while the Democrats were split, but predominantly favored slavery.

After the Democrats lost the Civil War, Democrats, especially Southern
Democrats, did everything they could to reverse the outcome in other
ways. Suddenly, there were a lot of freed slaves in the South,
looking for places to live and looking for jobs. Southern cities and
states enacted "Black Codes," which tightly controlled where and how
formerly enslaved people could work and for how much compensation,
where they could live and travel, and whether they could vote. Under
these laws, blacks could be arrested and sent to labor camps, where
they were effectively enslaved again.

The Ku Klux Klan was a private militia of the Democratic Party,
formed after the civil war. It began in 1865 as a private club
for Confederate (Southern) war veterans, and turned into a secret
society claiming many high officials as members. As an example,
Democrat Senator Robert C. Byrd was an "Exalted Cyclops"
in the KKK in his youth, and in 1964 he filibustered
against Lyndon Johnson's Civil Rights Act, although by the time
he died in 2010, he said he regretted those actions.

The "Black Codes" were mostly local laws enacted in the South, but by
the 1880s they were evolving into "Jim Crow" laws in states across the
South.

So KKK members, Southern Democrats, perpetrated beatings, lynchings
and private enslavement of blacks for well over the next century,
using the Jim Crow laws to their advantage. These vile acts were
condemned by a minority of Democrats and by almost all Republicans.
By today, the KKK and Jim Crow laws have almost entirely disappeared,
but the actions of Derek Chauvin show that there are still plenty of
vestiges remaining.

So you have various commentators calling for an end to racism
in the United States, and for investigations of racism, etc.
That will absolutely never, never, never happen, because
the Democrats are the perpetrators, and they will never allow
such investigations to occur.

Racism is an internecine war raging in the Democratic party, with
Republicans as collateral damage. Racism is an issue that has split
the Democrats for almost two centuries. Republicans have consistently
opposed racism, the KKK, the Black Codes, the lynchings, the Jim Crow
laws and the discrimination from the beginning, so it's up to the
Democrats to resolve their own internal split to resolve America's
racism issue.

Meanwhile if you're one of those people who are expecting / hoping for
some kind of general uprising or civil war, then if I were you I
wouldn't bet any money on it.

***
*** Sources:
***

-- 1864 Deocratic,Republican platforms / The Two Roads to Peace
http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_t ... 3&psid=432
(University of Houston, DigitalHistory, 2019)

-- Jim Crow Laws
https://www.history.com/topics/early-20 ... -crow-laws
(History.com, 21-Feb-2020)

-- Andrew Johnson
https://www.history.com/topics/us-presi ... ew-johnson
(History.com, 21-Aug-2018)

-- Jim Crow Laws
https://www.nps.gov/malu/learn/educatio ... w_laws.htm
(National Park Service, 17-Aug-2018)

-- A Timeline of US Race Riots Since 1965
https://www.voanews.com/usa/timeline-us-race-riots-1965
(AFP, 30-May-2020)

-- America’s Race Problem Erupts Anew, Layered With Coronavirus
Tensions
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/30/am ... -tensions/
(Foreign Policy, 30-May-2020)

-- Exalted Cyclops / Sen. Robert Byrd dead at 92; West Virginia
lawmaker was the longest serving member of Congress in history
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/c ... 01241.html
(Washington Post, 28-Jun-2010)

John, there's a bit more to it that that, but you've remembered some of History. There have been THREE KKK's; Robert Byrd was in the Second one, that Klan active 1915-44 or so. The second KKK focused much more on foreigners than Negroes and in Indiana even tried having a Colored Auxiliary of sorts--with some success. In Indiana the focus was dealing with local merchants "oppressing" their customers--the merchants were often Jews. In other areas the Klan was anti-Catholic, particularly in Pennsylvania and Ohio. As for that officer--if he was a Ku Kluxer the Media should've found that out by now unless they're making stuff up. It has been found out that both the officer and the dead man worked security for the same club last year--maybe they had some long-standing beef. And someone has been really laying in some planning for instigating all these riots. I've notice White people among the rioters and that's something new. The Rodney King riots helped Bill Clinton in 1992; maybe Joe Biden is hoping these riots will help him in 2020--or more properly, someone in his campaign is thinking that and telling Joe what motions to make and what to try to say.
Lastly, thanks for the reminder--we're NOT going to have an insurrection over this or a civil war. A long, long, extended Lockdown is more likely to do that. But the time for a Dorr War of 1842 in Rhode Island--the time has long past for someone to try to organize a rival government to usurp the regular government in a state. But a city is a different matter..

Nathan Redshield

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Sometime, John, take a short look at pre-1965 Race Riots. Come to think of it, they were something different--and they really were about race. Generational Dynamics sometimes gets things too simplified.

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*** Racial Violence in the United States Since 1660

https://www.blackpast.org/special-featu ... ates-1660/

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That's Gavin Newsome's Bullet Trains out in CA. Cuomo's NY trains are slightly more sensible and not quite so expensive.
No, I was talking about Cuomo's bullet trains. And they are expensive as hell.
But I don't expect New York to de-populate enough to change the train volumes much. We'll see..
NYC will see a mass exodus of taxpayers. The vast majority of NYC's taxes are paid by a very small number of people. They have been leaving ever since Mayor blowhard took over and decided that defecating in public was a God given right. These race riots are the tipping point.

Think Detroit. In 1950-55, Detroit was the richest city in the world, richer than even London or Paris. The 1968 race riots destroyed large sections of it. White flight followed and by the early 1970s, Detroit was bankrupt. By 1981, the train station, grander than Grand Central Station in NYC, was shut down. Now it is graffiti covered ruin in a nearly abandoned and burned out city. Today the majority of the residents are on some form of government assistance.
Lastly, thanks for the reminder--we're NOT going to have an insurrection over this or a civil war.
Thank God there won't be a civil war. That would allow Americans to save a least a few pockets of civilization. Now the whole country to be like Baltimore.

That's a relief.

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Nathan Redshield wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 4:30 pm
Sometime, John, take a short look at pre-1965 Race Riots. Come to think of it, they were something different--and they really were about race. Generational Dynamics sometimes gets things too simplified.
This where John being a Boomer shows his analytical weakness. He still thinks this is the 90% white country he grew up in and is ready to unite to fight an outside enemy. It clearly isn't.

His Boomerism also shows in his clearly un-analytical view that the races are "equal" when they clearly aren't.

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** 03-May-2020 World View: Black ghettos (Reposting from last month)
Bob Butler 54 wrote: > Most of the overt racism was handled in the 1960s. Blacks not
> being able to stay in many hotels, eat in most restaurants,
> purchase housing in many neighborhoods, all changed with the Civil
> Rights Act. At that time LBJ and MLK were working together, in
> part for justice, in part for the Democrats to get the black
> vote. This made Nixon’s Southern Strategy nigh on inevitable, as
> the Republicans quietly gathered the racist vote. If you haven’t
> noticed that, if you don’t believe me, you can do some research on
> various polls. Who voted for whom and when?
This "overt racism" was from Democrats. I grew up on the New Jersey
shore, where there were plenty of black kids in the same schools that
I was in, and blacks were free to eat in any restaurants. The overt
racism you're talking about was in the Democratic South, run by
Democrats who were pissed off at the Republicans for freeing the
slaves.

You seem to be saying that Democrats got some sort of frontal
lobotomy. They had wanted blacks to remain enslaved, wanted to
rape and lynch them for over a century, but then in 1965, this
frontal lobotomy made them love blacks. The whole concept
is a leftist fantasy.

All that happened in 1965 is that LBJ and MLK found a formula to keep
the blacks enslaved, by keeping them in black ghettos controlled by
Democrats and in poverty except for welfare payments controlled by
Democrats. The fact that blacks vote 90% for Democrats proves how
tightly they're controlled by the Democrat slavemasters.

The way that Democrats accomplished this re-slaving the blacks is
bone-chilling. I documented it at length, supported by hundreds of
sources, in my book "Fraternizing with the enemy - a book on gender
issues for men and for women who care about men."

I'll summarize it here in order to provide a little education.

Black ghettos were created by Democrat housing policies that created
the ghettos as subsidized black enclaves in various cities. We had
one in Long Branch, the city I grew up in. In retrospect, it
was quite amazing, as I frequently walked through it to get
from my white neighborhood to the downtown area. There were rows and
rows of identical homes, all occupied by blacks. That gave the
Democrats control over where blacks lived.

I remember in the early 1970s reading in the Boston Globe how
the city was sending vans into all the black neighborhoods to
sign women up for welfare payments. The van would roll down
the street, and a black woman, usually a single mother, would just
open her door, walk out to the van and sign up for welfare. That
was the Democrats' first step.

Step 2 was to get rid of the fathers completely. The single mothers
may have been unmarried, but very often they lived with the fathers as
a family. But a single mother wasn't allowed to get welfare if the
father lived with her, or even if he lived down the street. So the
father had to go. In my book I quoted dozens of sources from
"feminist theory" that fathers were not necessary. All a black mother
needs is sperm and money.

In the 1980s, the concept of "Liberation Day" was common in the black
ghettos. A teenage girl just had to get pregnant, which usually
wasn't very hard to do. The day she turned 16 years old was
"Liberation Day," the day she could apply for her own apartment and
her own welfare payments. This only ended in 1996 when it got so bad
that Clinton was forced to agree to welfare reform.

So today the Democrats have almost entirely destroyed black families
and re-enslaved the blacks. The blacks live in Democrat-controlled
black ghetto enclaves, and they receive Democrat-controlled welfare
payments. Mass black-on-black murders and massacres, such as those
that are common in the Chicago ghetto, are entirely the fault of
Democrats, and are the outcome of Democrats' racist policies.

So along comes Donald Trump and lowers black unemployment to historic
lows. Suddenly blacks can get work on their own. Suddenly black
fathers can support their families, and the mothers won't kick them
out. Suddenly black families can afford to live elsewhere besides the
Democratic-controlled ghetto. Suddenly Trump is threatening to "free
the slaves," just like Abraham Lincoln. No wonder the Democrats
vitriolicly hate the Tea Partiers, Trump, and the 63 million Trump
supporters. The Democrats are desperate to keep the blacks under
control and in the ghettos, where they'll do what their masters tell
them to do.

The Democrats are so desperate to win, they'll resort to any sort of
violence and criminal activities, as they did with General Michael
Flynn and many other Trump supporters, to get their way.

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*** Update (6/1): The myth of Nixon’s ‘Southern Strategy’ - Dinesh D'Souza

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/40 ... n-strategy

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Guest wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 1:14 am
Guest wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 12:06 am
Does all this mean America can quit NATO?
YES!
I'm skeptical of most international organizations but I think NATO is one of the few worthwhile. Being in it hasn't cost the US all that much since we were going to spend the money anyways. It has been the main source of external security for Western and now almost all of Europe. There is little chance of war happening in Europe precisely because of NATO. Many of our allies may not be of much use, but deterrence has been invaluable.

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In more wonderful news, Target, one of the few stores to stay open for the past three months, is closing all of their Twin City metro stores until further notice. More than half the Walgreens near me are closed. Yesterday my wife and I went for a walk which led by the Minneapolis Federal Reserve which was surrounded by armed National Guard soldiers. I can agree with some of the other people in that living in the city is suddenly less appealing. If I could move out the suburbs right now we'd do so. We may try to move forward our planned move to the Philippines.

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