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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wash ... r-of-words

Pew: 91% Democrats see violence next in war of words

[John]

** 19-Jul-2019 Antifa

> https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wash ... r-of-words

> Pew: 91% Democrats see violence next in war of words

I'm not sure why this is news, since there's already been
plenty of violence.

The fascist organization Antifa, which is the militant arm of the
Democratic party, beat the crap out of Andy Ngo, a conservative
journalist whom the Democrats hate.

Another Antifa Democrat, Willem Van Spronsen, was killed as he was
firebombing an ICE facility last week.

This left-wing violence has been building. The Democrats, especially
the mainstream media, have been using the epithet "teabaggers," which
is as bad as the n-word, to describe what are now the 60 million Trump
supporters. The Democrats have been inciting violence against Trump
supporters, even before Trump became a candidate.

For years, Obama's close friend and advisor James Hoffa, head of the
Teamsters Union, called for violence and war against the people who
today are the 60 million Trump supporters, with languagle like: "We
are ready to march. Let’s take these sons of bitches out and give
America back to an America where we belong."

And of course that crazy old hag, congresswoman Maxine Waters, has
been spewing vitriolic hatred by repeatedly inciting violence against
60 million Trump supporters by telling Democrats to confront them in
restaurants and gas stations.

During the 1930s, the militant wing of the Democratic Party was the Ku
Klux Klan, which targeted violence and lynchings against ten million
blacks.

Today, the new version of the Ku Klux Klan is the fascist organization
Antifa, which is the Democratic party's new military wing targeting
violence and beating the crap out of any of the 60 million Trump
supporters they don't like.

The fascist Antifa and the Democrats have been increasingly violent
and inciting violence against 60 million Trump supporters. Democrats
are cheering the violence by Antifa and the Democrats because they
consider their violence to be GOOD violence. For example, it's
perfectly excusable to beat the crap out of a conservative journalist.
Why not? He's just a worthless Trump supporter.

---- Sources

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/br ... -manifesto

https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/08/an ... -violence/

https://quillette.com/2019/05/29/its-no ... erleaders/

[FishbellykanakaDude]

BTW John,

Even though you get Generational Dynamics, you still show your early Boomerness, thinking America is the 90% white country you grew up in, not a multi ethnic mess about to engage in Civil War.

I'm gonna guess that the misspelled "Millenial83" is also "CH83", and his (maybe her) various clones.

..just a guess, but "shape shifting" (as well as being "vampires") is rather a strong "millennial" trait.

[John]

** 19-Jul-2019 Millenial83 vs CH86 (Cynic Hero 86)

> I'm gonna guess that the misspelled "Millenial83" is also "CH83",
> and his (maybe her) various clones.

> ..just a guess, but "shape shifting" (as well as being "vampires")
> is rather a strong "millennial" trait.

Interestingly enough, there's another point of comparison. Several
years ago, CH86 was demanding that I answer all his questions, and
after a while I had to give the same response as I gave to
Millennnnnnnial83: "I am not your servant that I have to answer all
your questions."

So if they are the same people, then they must suffering from a case
of déjà vu all over again.

[Millenial83]

Not the same person. But glad someone else may see the Boomer hole in your thinking: This isn't the America you grew up in, we'renot going to unite to fight China, we're going to fight each other.

[John]

** 20-Jul-2019 World View: Iran seizes UK-flagged oil tanker / Operation Sentinel


The news all day Friday was of the seizure by Iran's Revolutionary
Guards Corp (IRGC) of the a British-flagged oil tanker, the Stena
Impero.

However, there were no British crew members aboard. The 23 crew
members are of various nationalities, including India, Russia, Latvia,
India, and the Philippines.

Britain's Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt, who is also running for Prime
Minister, said, "These seizures are unacceptable."

The IRGC seized a second tanker, the Liberian-flagged Mesdar. IRGC
armed guards boarded the ship, but then let it go shortly thereafter.

This appears to be the latest in what some analysts are calling one
inept action after another. Before today, Iran has sabotaged 6
tankers and shot down an American drone. All of these actions might
be called "militarily safe," since they do not involve the death or
capture of American, British or European citizens. Instead, the
purpose of these childish actions is to convince European officials to
put pressure on the Trump administration to remove some sanctions.

But Iran has completely failed in that objective. Instead of now
pressuring the Trump administration to remove the sanctions, the
European officials are harshly condemning Iran, accusing Iran of
"destabilizing the Mideast", and are giving Donald Trump space to brag
about making the right decision to back out of the nuclear deal, and
to make statements like, "Iran is nothing but trouble."

In fact, Iran's actions have had the opposite effect, and caused
attitudes to harden. US Central command has issued two statements.

The first statement announces the movement of troops to Saudi Arabia,
for the first time in decades:

"In coordination with and at the invitation of the
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the Secretary of Defense has authorized
the movement of U.S. personnel and resources to deploy to Saudi
Arabia. This movement of forces provides an additional deterrent,
and ensures our ability to defend our forces and interests in the
region from emergent, credible threats. This movement creates
improvement of operational depth and logistical
networks. U.S. Central Command continually assesses force posture
in the region and is working with Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
authorities to base U.S. assets at the appropriate
locations."

The number of troops was not specified, but it's believed that the
number will be 500.

The second statement proposes a multinational effort to protect ships
in the Strait of Hormuz from attacks by Iran:

"U.S. Central Command is developing a multinational
maritime effort, Operation Sentinel, to increase surveillance of
and security in key waterways in the Middle East to ensure freedom
of navigation in light of recent events in the Arabian Gulf
region.

The goal of Operation Sentinel is to promote maritime stability,
ensure safe passage, and de-escalate tensions in international
waters throughout the Arabian Gulf, Strait of Hormuz, the Bab
el-Mandeb Strait (BAM) and the Gulf of Oman.

This maritime security framework will enable nations to provide
escort to their flagged vessels while taking advantage of the
cooperation of participating nations for coordination and enhanced
maritime domain awareness and surveillance.

While the United States has committed to supporting this
initiative, contributions and leadership from regional and
international partners will be required to succeed.

U.S. officials continue to coordinate with allies and partners in
Europe, Asia, and the Middle East on the details and capabilities
required for Operation Sentinel to enable freedom of navigation in
the region and protect vital shipping lanes."

Much of the debate on television on Friday was over the question of
whether there would be full-scale war between Iran and either the US
or the UK. In my opinion, the probability of such a war is extremely
low, since Iran is in a generational Awakening era, following the 1979
Islamic Revolution, and the younger postwar generations are extremely
hostile to the hardline geezers that survived the revolution.

---- Sources:

-- Iran / U.S. Central Command Statement on Operation Sentinel
https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/STATEMENT ... -sentinel/
(Centcom-mil, 19-Jul-2019)

-- U.S. Central Command Statement on movement of U.S. personnel to
Saudi Arabia
https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/STATEMENT ... di-arabia/
(Centcom-mil, 19-Jul-2019)

-- Iran's Revolutionary Guard seizes one UK-operated tanker in Strait
of Hormuz, briefly detains another
https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-uk-o ... -of-hormuz
(FoxNews, 19-Jul-2019)

-- US moves forward on operation to counter Iran, begins sending
troops to Saudi Arabia
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4539 ... s-to-saudi
(TheHill, 19-Jul-2019)

[FishbellykanakaDude]

Not the same person. But glad someone else may see the Boomer hole in your thinking: This isn't the America you grew up in, we'renot going to unite to fight China, we're going to fight each other.

Well that's something to look forward to, then, isn't it? <big honkin' smile of sarcasm!>

But it is "nice" to see that CH has some followers, as he (perhaps she) REALLY needs some unterfuhrers to get this whole "revolution" thing going!

[Millenial83]

Not the same person. But glad someone else may see the Boomer hole in your thinking: This isn't the America you grew up in, we'renot going to unite to fight China, we're going to fight each other.

Well that's something to look forward to, then, isn't it? <big honkin' smile of sarcasm!>

But it is "nice" to see that CH has some followers, as he (perhaps she) REALLY needs some unterfuhrers to get this whole "revolution" thing going!

You're an early wave boomer if I have to guess, correct?

[FishbellykanakaDude]

Not the same person. But glad someone else may see the Boomer hole in your thinking: This isn't the America you grew up in, we'renot going to unite to fight China, we're going to fight each other.

Well that's something to look forward to, then, isn't it? <big honkin' smile of sarcasm!>

But it is "nice" to see that CH has some followers, as he (perhaps she) REALLY needs some unterfuhrers to get this whole "revolution" thing going!

You're an early wave boomer if I have to guess, correct?

Uh,.. very late cusp-Boomer,.. I think.

..whatʻs 1957-60, these days?

But I "identify" more as a time-traveling Mid-Silent (circa 1935) that was transported at the age of 7 to 1977,.. whatever that might indicate.

[John]

** 21-Jul-2019 World View: War with Iran

> Much of the debate on television on Friday was over the question
> of whether there would be full-scale war between Iran and either
> the US or the UK. In my opinion, the probability of such a war is
> extremely low, since Iran is in a generational Awakening era,
> following the 1979 Islamic Revolution, and the younger postwar
> generations are extremely hostile to the hardline geezers that
> survived the revolution.

> The UK and the US are not in awakening eras. WWII started in
> noncrisis eras for many of the participants. As far as I can tell,
> only one side needs to be in a crisis era for a war to become a
> crisis war.

You're absolutely right. I was stating my opinion, and if it hadn't
been so late and I hadn't been sooooooooooooo sleepy, I would have
explained further.

As you suggest, there are politicians in both the US and UK who are
calling for military action against Iran, and if they have their way,
then there will be at least a military attack.

The whole subject of a war between two parties, one in a Crisis era
and the other in an Awakening era, has been really fascinating to me.
My favorite example is Napoleon's attack on Russia, where the Russians
cleared out of Moscow and let Napoleon's troops gorge themselves to
death.

** Book I / Chapter 5 -- Leo Tolstoy's War and Peace
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... olstoy.htm

So let's imagine what would have to happen to have a war between the
US/UK and Iran.

There would be some kind of military strike in retaliation for Iran's
actions, something like the cruise missile attack on al-Shayrat
Airbase in Syria in April 2017, as a response to al-Assad's use of
Sarin gas. That didn't end in war, and I don't think a similar attack
on Iran would either.

Another possibility is that the US or UK would send in special forces
to free the hostages and recapture the tanker. Since most of the
hostages are Indian, I wouldn't expect that. But if it did happen,
then the special forces would succeed or fail, but either way I
wouldn't expect either side to declare full-scale war.

Another possibility is the US could send in some of those 500 troops
that are now on the way to Saudi Arabia. That's possible, I guess,
but I consider the probability low.

Trump has previously made clear that he's being restrained in making a
military strike against Iran, so he's personally exhibiting Awakening
era behavior, even though the US is in a Crisis era. Iran is in an
Awakening era, so they're going to be restrained as well.

So putting all those random thoughts together, I consider the
probability of a war to extremely low, for several reasons, but the
main one is that Iran is in an Awakening era and will not want to do
anything that triggers a declaration of war by the US or UK. I expect
this situation to be resolved in some other way.

I would explain it some more, but it's late and I'm sooooooooooo
sleepy.