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** 24-Aug-2019 World View: Accelerated steepened intensified conflict

I just heard an analyst on al-Jazeera (Dan Ciuriak, Center for
International Governance Innovation) say that if you ignore China's
GDP figures and look at electricity use, the amount of electricity
being used indicates that China's economy has fallen "to below stall
speed." He said that the global economy is becoming "an accelerated
steepened intensified conflict that's going beyond a tariff war."

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** 24-Aug-2019 Joe Biden
mps92 wrote: > John what do you think about Joe Biden's involvement with the
> Chinese govt? Through his son's law firm, he's taken billions of
> dollars of bribes from the Chinese government. He's been accused
> of being soft on China while VP. At a campaign rally he stated
> that China "was not an economic threat" to the United States,
> characterizing them as inefficient and inept.

> If Joe Biden becomes president, I believe that China invades Hong
> Kong, then Taiwan - and the rest of the dominoes fall.
This is all fatuous political nonsense, with no relevance to the real
world.

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How can you be sure? Didn't Britain and France appease Nazi Germany over and over again? Why can't the same thing happen again? Perhaps Joe Biden is the next Neville Chamberlain, and only steps in when SK and Japan are attacked, after HK and Taiwan are already annexed.

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John wrote:** 24-Aug-2019 World View: Defending Taiwan
John wrote:** 23-Aug-2019 China attacks Taiwan

At any rate, if China attacks Taiwan, then America will defend
Taiwan.
CH86 wrote: > No we won't. Taiwan is not a real treaty ally, especially if China
> blockades rather than lands ground forces.
Yes we will. If China attacks Taiwan, then American warplanes
will be in the air and American warships will be mobilized
before you can say Jack Robinson.
No we won't, also congress and senate must approve so even if we do (intervene) , we literally "can't" under existing law do it "faster than saying jackie robinson". There is no way the president can send military forces even if he/she wants to without the legislative branch's approval. You know full well what the law on the books says on such matters. Even when Japan attacked pearl harbor, we gathered congress to authorize military action afterwards.

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Someone mentioned Joe Biden, Sorry but Biden isn't going to make it to the general election, he will be defeated in the primaries. The nominee will either be Sanders, Gabbard, Yang or Williamson. Otherwise there would be no DNC by election day, and instead there being a weak liberal party who no one other than Boomers, Southern black women, Jews and Fags support and an stronger Progressive party which would consist of Xers and Millies whose nominee would be squaring of against president trump who would command most conservatives.

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Most of our problems both domestic and foreign can be traced down to moralizers ramming their preferences down the citizenry's throats rather than asking for consent first.

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** 24-Aug-2019 War Powers Act
John wrote: > Yes we will. If China attacks Taiwan, then American warplanes will
> be in the air and American warships will be mobilized before you
> can say Jack Robinson.
CH86 wrote: > No we won't, also congress and senate must approve so even if we
> do (intervene), we literally "can't" under existing law do it
> "faster than saying jackie robinson".
Lol! So if China attacks Los Angeles on Christmas eve, then our armed
forces would have to sit on their hands for a few days, waiting for
members of Congress to return to Washington from their Christmas
vacations to authorize military action. Oh wait ... that won't work
either. By the time they get back to Washington, Washington won't be
there any more! Lol!

The 1973 War Powers Act requires the president to notify Congress
within 48 hours after the start of military action, and requires the
president to end the military action within 60 days unless the action
is authorized by Congress.

https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam- ... powers-act

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** 24-Aug-2019 Neville Chamberlain
mps92 wrote: > How can you be sure? Didn't Britain and France appease Nazi
> Germany over and over again? Why can't the same thing happen
> again? Perhaps Joe Biden is the next Neville Chamberlain, and only
> steps in when SK and Japan are attacked, after HK and Taiwan are
> already annexed.
Nothing in your scenario is likely or even possible. No matter who is
president in 2020, there's no way today to predict the mood of the
public, or how the public would react to an invasion of Taiwan, though
I have little doubt that the reaction would be furious and
belligerent.

As I've written many times, it's a core principle of Generational
Dynamics that, even in a dictatorship, major decisions are made by
masses of people, by generations of people. The attitudes of
politicians are irrelevant, except insofar as they represent the
attitudes of the people.

So in the case of Neville Chamberlain, it wasn't Chamberlain who was
fooled by Hitler -- it was the British population that were fooled.
The British people were fooled because they wanted to be fooled.

Today, public hostility to China is growing every day, and no one
today would be fooled by a promise from Xi Jinping of "peace in our
time."

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John wrote:** 24-Aug-2019 War Powers Act
John wrote: > Yes we will. If China attacks Taiwan, then American warplanes will
> be in the air and American warships will be mobilized before you
> can say Jack Robinson.
CH86 wrote: > No we won't, also congress and senate must approve so even if we
> do (intervene), we literally "can't" under existing law do it
> "faster than saying jackie robinson".
Lol! So if China attacks Los Angeles on Christmas eve, then our armed
forces would have to sit on their hands for a few days, waiting for
members of Congress to return to Washington from their Christmas
vacations to authorize military action. Oh wait ... that won't work
either. By the time they get back to Washington, Washington won't be
there any more! Lol!

The 1973 War Powers Act requires the president to notify Congress
within 48 hours after the start of military action, and requires the
president to end the military action within 60 days unless the action
is authorized by Congress.

https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam- ... powers-act
Get the Hint John we're not doing things your way, even if a war breaks out. Your scenario can't happen because if China attacks any continental US target, it would be carpet bombarded immediately within hours, if not minutes. Non-Globalists are putting their foot down; we're NEVER going to do things your way. We are demanding you follow the existing laws, or if a war is already broke out the existing war/retaliation plans that are on the books. And none of those plans envision doing things the globalist way. You guys (globalists) are the ones trying to force others to do things your way. You hate the existing laws and contingency plans because your preference of 100 percent evil CCP vs 100 percent Good America could never happen if things are done the way laws and contingency plans on the books say they are supposed to be done. Your side's preferences can only be implemented utilizing tyranny and/or deliberate neglect/gumming up the system. My side however doesn't have that problem because people actually support preferences similar to my own, unlike yours. My side wants Xi Jinping tamed, not gone. Its obvious even if Xi backed down your side would deliberately sabotage it because you want his regime gone, not cowed.

We are never going to be your "world human rights" receptacles, get that. Also Trump is already deploying the new IRBMs contrary to boomer hopes that process is drawn out over several years. Instead it would be completed in a matter of months if not already completed.
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Also in case fishdude shows up, here is something for you. ANY law that force alters a persons behavior from what that behavior would have been if said law hadn't been there: is by definition tyrannical. Boomers and Globalists have no right to tell others how to behave simply because their own preferences want them to behave that way.

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