Generational Dynamics World View News

[John]

** 05-Dec-2020 World View: South China Sea islands

> And better reporting would inform everyone of the fact that the
> Communist Chinese spend $150 billion building islands in the South
> China Seas but and this is a fact:

> They are sinking and none of the landing strips can take heavy
> aircraft because if they land they will not be able to take
> off. The concrete they are made of is crumbling.

> Many parts of them will be underwater in 2-3 years and if there is
> a major storm there will be nothing left of many of
> them. LOLOLOLOL

Do you have a source for this?

[richard5za]

I don't live in USA and I am very curious: Has anyone any idea of what Trump and legal team is trying to achieve?

[Navigator]

I don't live in USA and I am very curious: Has anyone any idea of what Trump and legal team is trying to achieve?

The actual selection of the president in the USA has not yet happened. The USA is a democratic REPUBLIC. This means that people vote for others who will actually select the president. Those that select the president are called Electors. They are members of what is called the Electoral College.

Each state has to certify that the election was valid. In doing so, the state selects the Electors for the candidate they certify has won the presidential election in their state. Most states have laws that require the Electors to vote for the certified winning candidate. But some do not.

The Electoral College then gathers, I think on December 14, and vote on who will actually become president. If more than 50% of Electors do not vote for a candidate, the selection of the president is instead made by the House of Representatives, with each state delegation receiving 1 vote. The winner is then the candidate who gets 26 state delegations to vote for him.

What Trump's legal team is trying to do is: First and foremost, to stop states from certifying elections that result in the selection of Electors for Biden. But enough have now certified Biden Electors that he will have more than 50%. So now they are trying to "un-certify" elections, or they are trying to convince Republican controlled state legislatures to ignore the election results and instead pick the Electors themselves (which they can do).

Second, they will try to convince Biden Electors to not vote for Biden but for Trump or even someone else. This is what Hillary's people tried to do in 2016. There are often a couple of Electors (from states that don't have laws forcing their vote) that will vote for some alternate choice, but usually only when the candidate of their party has lost anyway.

The idea here is to, either by method 1 or 2 above, have the election sent to the House of Representatives, which has a majority of Republican state delegations, and they would then select Trump.

These very unusual situations happened twice, in 1824 and 1876.

But now, with the selection of more than 270 Electors for Biden, the whole thing is basically over for Trump.

NOW, and very dangerous, some people are saying that Trump should declare martial law and re-do the election. The military would NEVER do this, and Trump would end up being tried for treason (which carries the death penalty) if he did this. The US military swears allegiance to the Constitution, not the President. And this would be an attack on the Constitution.

[richard5za]

Thank you kindly for the excellent explanation, much appreciated

[Tom Mazanec]

The Archetypical Cycle of Internal Order and Disorder
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/archetyp ... ray-dalio/

[Guest]

I don't live in USA and I am very curious: Has anyone any idea of what Trump and legal team is trying to achieve?

The actual selection of the president in the USA has not yet happened. The USA is a democratic REPUBLIC. This means that people vote for others who will actually select the president. Those that select the president are called Electors. They are members of what is called the Electoral College.

Each state has to certify that the election was valid. In doing so, the state selects the Electors for the candidate they certify has won the presidential election in their state. Most states have laws that require the Electors to vote for the certified winning candidate. But some do not.

The Electoral College then gathers, I think on December 14, and vote on who will actually become president. If more than 50% of Electors do not vote for a candidate, the selection of the president is instead made by the House of Representatives, with each state delegation receiving 1 vote. The winner is then the candidate who gets 26 state delegations to vote for him.

What Trump's legal team is trying to do is: First and foremost, to stop states from certifying elections that result in the selection of Electors for Biden. But enough have now certified Biden Electors that he will have more than 50%. So now they are trying to "un-certify" elections, or they are trying to convince Republican controlled state legislatures to ignore the election results and instead pick the Electors themselves (which they can do).

Second, they will try to convince Biden Electors to not vote for Biden but for Trump or even someone else. This is what Hillary's people tried to do in 2016. There are often a couple of Electors (from states that don't have laws forcing their vote) that will vote for some alternate choice, but usually only when the candidate of their party has lost anyway.

The idea here is to, either by method 1 or 2 above, have the election sent to the House of Representatives, which has a majority of Republican state delegations, and they would then select Trump.

These very unusual situations happened twice, in 1824 and 1876.

But now, with the selection of more than 270 Electors for Biden, the whole thing is basically over for Trump.

NOW, and very dangerous, some people are saying that Trump should declare martial law and re-do the election. The military would NEVER do this, and Trump would end up being tried for treason (which carries the death penalty) if he did this. The US military swears allegiance to the Constitution, not the President. And this would be an attack on the Constitution.

America is Zimbabwe now.

[Higgenbotham]

The Archetypical Cycle of Internal Order and Disorder
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/archetyp ... ray-dalio/

In the following chapter:

From studying 50+ civil wars and revolutions, it became clear that the single most reliable leading indicator of civil war/revolution is bankrupt government finances, often after an economic shock and when there are big wealth gaps.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/delving- ... -ray-dalio

[John]

** 06-Dec-2020 World View: What is Trump trying to achieve?

> I don't live in USA and I am very curious: Has anyone any idea of
> what Trump and legal team is trying to achieve?

> The actual selection of the president in the USA has not yet
> happened. The USA is a democratic REPUBLIC. This means that
> people vote for others who will actually select the president.
> Those that select the president are called Electors. They are
> members of what is called the Electoral College.

> Each state has to certify that the election was valid. In doing
> so, the state selects the Electors for the candidate they certify
> has won the presidential election in their state. Most states
> have laws that require the Electors to vote for the certified
> winning candidate. But some do not.

> The Electoral College then gathers, I think on December 14, and
> vote on who will actually become president. If more than 50% of
> Electors do not vote for a candidate, the selection of the
> president is instead made by the House of Representatives, with
> each state delegation receiving 1 vote. The winner is then the
> candidate who gets 26 state delegations to vote for him.

> What Trump's legal team is trying to do is: First and foremost, to
> stop states from certifying elections that result in the selection
> of Electors for Biden. But enough have now certified Biden
> Electors that he will have more than 50%. So now they are trying
> to "un-certify" elections, or they are trying to convince
> Republican controlled state legislatures to ignore the election
> results and instead pick the Electors themselves (which they can
> do).

> Second, they will try to convince Biden Electors to not vote for
> Biden but for Trump or even someone else. This is what Hillary's
> people tried to do in 2016. There are often a couple of Electors
> (from states that don't have laws forcing their vote) that will
> vote for some alternate choice, but usually only when the
> candidate of their party has lost anyway.

> The idea here is to, either by method 1 or 2 above, have the
> election sent to the House of Representatives, which has a
> majority of Republican state delegations, and they would then
> select Trump.

> These very unusual situations happened twice, in 1824 and 1876.

> But now, with the selection of more than 270 Electors for Biden,
> the whole thing is basically over for Trump.

> NOW, and very dangerous, some people are saying that Trump should
> declare martial law and re-do the election. The military would
> NEVER do this, and Trump would end up being tried for treason
> (which carries the death penalty) if he did this. The US military
> swears allegiance to the Constitution, not the President. And
> this would be an attack on the Constitution.

Thank you for this detailed explanation. There is more to be said,
however. The amount of evidence of cheating and fraud is growing
every day, though it may or may not be enough to affect the results.
Trump is not planning anything as ridiculous as declaring martial law,
but he is starting a new political movement, based on the enormous
anger and fury held by most of the 74 million people who voted for
Trump, and who believe that the Democrats cheated and stole the
election.

This morning I watched George Stephanolopous's news program. The
thing that stuck out in my mind was the several occasions when
Stephanolopous angrily yelled that the election was settled. I
consider those angry outbursts to be admissions of guilt.
Stephanolopous and the others claimed that Trump was endangering
American democracy, and was making America look foolish in the eyes of
the world.

Stephanolopous and other Democrats, led by shithead Adam Schiff and
Nancy Pelosi, have been relentless assholes (RAs) for four years. The
RAs never acknowledged Trump's legitimacy, they brought one ridiculous
charge after another, knowing that they were false charges to try to
get him out of office. The RAs were completely humiliated by the
farcical Mueller report and the farcical impeachment trial, but that
didn't stop them. They say and believe that Trump supporters are
ignoramuses and evil bigots. And in the last four years, these
relentless assholes never once worried about endangering American
democracy, or making America look foolish in the eyes of the world.
So now when the RAs accuse the Republicans of "endangering democracy,"
the response to the Democrats is likely to be "Fuck you, asshole."

It's important to remember that this actually has nothing to do with
Trump, as I've been writing for over ten years. During the Obama
administration, when they still loved Trump because he was a TV star,
the Democrats had a vitriolic hatred of the "Tea Partiers," whom they
described in highly abusive and barbaric terms, highlighted by the
word "teabaggers," which is as bad an insult as the n-word. Hillary
referred to them later as "basket of deplorables -- racist, sexist,
homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it." For the past
four years, the RA Democrats have constantly described all Trump
supporters as "white supremacists." But this is not because of Trump.
This is because of the innate hatred in the minds of the Democrats.

There's something in the Democrat world view that always leads to this
kind of hatred. Remember that it was the Republicans who freed the
slaves, and it was the Democrats who bitterly opposed it. After the
Democrats lost the Civil War, they formed the Ku Klux Klan (KKK), and
the Democrats spent the next century lynching, beating, torturing and
raping any black person they could. If you had been a Democrat a
century ago, you probably would have been a member of the KKK, and you
would have cheered every time a black was lynched or beaten. Today,
Democrats have exactly the same mindset and hatred, but it's directed
at the 74 million Tea Partiers and Trump supporters.

As I've developed Generational Dynamics, I've seen plenty of
historical analogies to this kind of hatred. It's identical to the
Nazi hatred of the Jews, or the British hatred of the Boers, or the
Hutu hatred of the Tutsis, or the Serb hatred of the Bosnians. This
past summer, when the antifa-blm gangs were rioting and looting and
burning down small businesses, this was the same as the Nazi's
Kristallnacht. As it says in Ecclesiastes, there's nothing new under
the sun.

So if you ask what Trump is trying to do -- yes, he'll try overturn
the election if he can. But there's a lot more. By continuing to
gather evidence of massive fraud by the Democrats, he'll galvanize his
new movement, based on the 74 million Trump supporters. He'll
probably say that he's running for president in 2024, and on that
basis he'll continue to hold rallies, from which he will continue to
attack the Biden administration.

How will all this end? I've also been writing about this for over 15
years. It will end in an existential threat to the United States that
will unify the country behind whoever is president. That existential
threat is most likely going to be war with China.

[Updated 12/8/2020]

[Higgenbotham]

By continuing to gather evidence of massive fraud by the Democrats, he'll galvanize his new movement, based on the 74 million Trump supporters. He'll probably say that he's running for president in 2024, and on that basis he'll continue to hold rallies, from which he will continue to attack the Biden administration.

Do you think he will form a third party?

[John]

** 06-Dec-2020 World View: Third party

> By continuing to gather evidence of massive fraud by the
> Democrats, he'll galvanize his new movement, based on the 74
> million Trump supporters. He'll probably say that he's running
> for president in 2024, and on that basis he'll continue to hold
> rallies, from which he will continue to attack the Biden
> administration.

> Do you think he will form a third party?

I don't, but that would be a dramatic event, wouldn't it, given how
the Republican party was formed in part to end slavery.