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FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
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FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
Everything.
Elaborate, please! Sounds like you've got an interesting theory. Inquiring minds wanna hear about it! :)
Sparing with you is like wasting the entire weekend watching reruns of program you never liked in the first place. I imagine he doesn't want to bother with you.

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Guest wrote:
FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
Guest wrote:
Everything.
Elaborate, please! Sounds like you've got an interesting theory. Inquiring minds wanna hear about it! :)
Sparing with you is like wasting the entire weekend watching reruns of program you never liked in the first place. I imagine he doesn't want to bother with you.
:lol:

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** 11-Mar-2019 Steve Bannon in Japan: China's motives
I really dont care wrote: > https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/ ... IJ-PckzZdh

> The bulk of Bannon’s 40-minute speech was spent unleashing a
> bitter diatribe against China, which he argued is posing a threat
> to “Japan, the United States and the Pacific.”

> He branded it a “hegemonic” and “totalitarian” power that thrives
> on technologies it “stole” from Japan and the U.S., while alleging
> that Chinese people are “oppressed,” “tortured” and “abused” by
> high-echelon officials within the Chinese Communist Party.

> “The defenders of the CCP say, ‘China is not expansionist … It’s
> always their neighbors that are expansionist,’ ” Bannon
> said. “That is quite simply a lie.”

> “The radical cadre in the CCP is the most geopolitically
> ambitious, aggressive, expansionist power in world history,” he
> said, explaining how China’s trademark “One Belt, One Road”
> initiative preys on infrastructure-hungry developing countries by
> lending them money that “in no way can be paid back,” to put them
> under Beijing’s control.

> Bannon sought to rally support from LDP lawmakers by emphasizing
> that against such a backdrop, Japan must stand firm and fight
> China’s assertive rise in solidarity with a Trump-led America.

> If the “strong, robust” combination of Japan and the U.S. is
> realized, he said, “there is nobody in the Pacific that can stand
> up to that. China is a paper tiger.”

Thanks for pointing this out.

I wrote to Steve Bannon about this. Here is the exchange:

John wrote: > Someone pointed me towards the Japan Times article describing your
> speech to the Liberal Democratic Party.

> https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/ ... te-probes/

> What you're describing isn't really what's going on.

> I'm writing a book on China, Korea and Japan. It's almost
> finished, approaching 100,000 words, and based on hundreds of
> sources, including a couple of dozen books. So I've done
> extensive research, and the conclusion I've reached (with
> certainty) is that China does not really want war with America or
> the West (except possibly with the UK for the Opium Wars), but
> they're thirsting for a revenge war with Japan, even though they
> know that it means war with America as well.

> China may be "expansionist," but that's not what's driving them.
> What's driving them is the desire for revenge.

> My book was originally going to be about 40,000 words, and it was
> going to be about China's claims to the South China Sea. After I
> got into it, I realized that China has no claims whatsoever to the
> South China Sea. It's totally a hoax. So then I changed the
> objective of the book to figuring out China's "Century of
> Humiliation." After I got into that, a major question arose: Why
> didn't the same thing happen to Japan? So the third objective of
> the book was to compare China with Japan, and what I discovered is
> that Japan has repeatedly and consistently bested China in all
> areas -- economically, diplomatically, militarily, and in
> governance. That leads directly to the conclusion that China is
> justifying its barbaric actions by seeking revenge against Japan.

> In fact, they're mimicking the barbaric policies that Japan used
> leading to WW II, such as the concentration camps and crematoria
> in East Turkistan (Xinjiang province), and violent attacks on
> Christians, Buddhists and Muslims.

> If you describe the CCP as "the most geopolitically ambitious,
> aggressive, expansionist power in world history," then you're
> missing the point. Those are secondary objectives. China is not
> like Germany or WW II or even Japan in WW II, both of which were
> working on expansionist policies.

> It's hard to describe China's policies as anything but insanity.
> China's policies don't even make sense. BRI, as you point out, is
> economic suicide for China. The Uighur genocide is one of the
> stupidest policies of any nation in history. Trying to
> exterminate Buddism and Christianity is totally insane.

> The ordinary people of China do not feel “oppressed,” “tortured”
> and “abused," as long as they have jobs. A recession would change
> that.

> Maybe it's a distinction without a difference. Online we've been
> working out out some likely military scenarios that the Chinese
> will follow, but once the missiles start flying, it probably won't
> matter what the motives are. China's motives will be raw and
> visceral.

> On the other hand, you probably didn't have to tell the Japanese
> what the actual Chinese motives are. They already know what
> barbarians they were, with Unit 731, with the Rape of Nanking, and
> with comfort women. They're well aware that the Chinese are
> coming to do the same things to them, and they know that America
> may be too busy trying to save itself than trying to save
> them.
Steve Bannon wrote: > They want that also but trust me they want hegemonic dominance
> over US and the West

> #1 goal
John wrote: > Sure, but that's delusional, and they know it. In fact, they may
> even want people to believe that, as a smokescreen, just as
> everything else the Chinese say is a smokescreen to mislead
> people.

> Saying that the Chinese "want hegemonic dominance" is like saying
> that someone "wants" to sleep with Jennifer Lopez. We all want
> things in our dreams, but we know that they're just dreams.

> You can't look at the Chinese character in any obvious, rational
> manner. First of all, "hegemonic dominance" is not in the Chinese
> character, and not something they would even want. Any
> pretensions to "hegemonic dominance" would disappear quickly, as
> soon as the first shot was fired.

> There is only one motive driving the Chinese that will never
> disappear -- a vitriolic all-consuming uncontrollable hatred for
> the Japanese and an overwhelming and uncontrollable desire for
> revenge. That all-consuming hatred will not be quenched until
> they've gotten that revenge. Nothing else will matter, until the
> very last day of the war, and I suspect that the Japanese know it
> as well as the Chinese know it, even though they don't want to
> talk about it with anyone in the West.

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Capitalist excess is pushing American Millennials and Gen-Z towards Socialism:
http://thegreatrecession.info/blog/soci ... evolution/
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

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Guest wrote:
FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
Guest wrote:
Everything.
Elaborate, please! Sounds like you've got an interesting theory. Inquiring minds wanna hear about it! :)
The intelligent already know exactly what I mean.
I know precisely what you mean by what you said. You may not like saying what you mean out loud because it's "very easy" to put a negative spin on what you actually do mean. But it's best to hear magnificent insights from the "horse's mouth".

..so, for the record, what do you mean in your own words?

Or are you not really interested in being perfectly clear as to what you mean?

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Guest wrote:
FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
Guest wrote:
Everything.
Elaborate, please! Sounds like you've got an interesting theory. Inquiring minds wanna hear about it! :)
Sparing with you is like wasting the entire weekend watching reruns of program you never liked in the first place. I imagine he doesn't want to bother with you.
Most probably true. You cowardly "Guests" aren't interested in anything but trolling anyway, so I certainly don't want to waste your extremely valuable time. :)
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Look you guys, this is not the place to have racist arguments. I
already had to delete one posting last week, and I don't want to have
to do it again.

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John wrote:Look you guys, this is not the place to have racist arguments. I
already had to delete one posting last week, and I don't want to have
to do it again.
Hear hear!

..and you are more than welcome to delete anything (at all) that I post that you find annoying.

I'm enjoying Navigator's input VERY much, by the way. More colab with him and others like him would be GrrrrrrrrrrREAT! ..to quote a great feline I also highly regard.

Aloha nui! :) <shaka!>

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Tom Mazanec wrote:Capitalist excess is pushing American Millennials and Gen-Z towards Socialism:
http://thegreatrecession.info/blog/soci ... evolution/
Resentment is THE "character quality" that motivates, or better yet "turns evil" the impetus to improve that which is societally (socially?) "wrong with the world". The actual initial "motivation" is to do good.

It is right to try to reduce the suffering of the "innocents" in society, which is indeed what both "benign socialism" and "benign free-trade" (aka voluntary capitalism, as opposed to "crony capitalism") try to accomplish via their respective "enforcement mechanisms for their rules of behavior".

And what is it that "corrupts" the "rules" and "mechanisms" of the "do gooders"?

Bad memory.

Institutional memory of "the awfulness created by bad rules and mechanisms" becomes less influenced by "living memory" and more influenced by "indulged fantasy memory" over time, as the elders with true experience become less and less effective as "power brokers" within society.

(Read John's work. This is nothing new.)

The point I'm trying to make is not that there is a way to STOP the cycle of tyranny (crony capitalist tyranny to communist totalitarianist tyranny and back), but that we can extend the "wavelength" of the cycle by developing a better "institutional memory" of that which inhibits that "cycle of awfulness".

I don't have a magic key, by the way. But it IS obvious that developing "societal rules/behaviors" that reduce the creation of resentment is the only way to lengthen the cycle.

So,.. how do we do that, then?

Hoʻoponopono.

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One of the biggest problems we face is the polarization of politics. Each side needs to understand the other. I wrote about this here:

https://comingstorms.com/the-fundamental-difference/

I think that a couple of things COULD potentially have saved us from the current situation, but I believe it is too late now.

The main thing was that Government should not be allowed to borrow money, except in time of a declared war. This way, social programs would have to be funded by actual government income. If you want to provide a benefit, fine, you just have to get people to agree, at that time, to pay for it somehow. None of this "borrowing from the future" crap that has destroyed us.

I wrote about how BOTH parties have failed in the USA.

https://comingstorms.com/party-failure/

At this point, I believe we will go through a financial crisis/collapse, followed by a World War. After that, I think most of the world will go through a period similar to post World War One Europe. To be followed by anarchy then dictators.

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