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Tom Mazanec
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“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

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At this point, I believe we will go through a financial crisis/collapse, followed by a World War. After that, I think most of the world will go through a period similar to post World War One Europe. To be followed by anarchy then dictators.
What do you think Europe will look like after WW 3? Will there be anyone left to form a government?

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I thought it might help explain my points of view if I explained a bit how I came to Generational Dynamics, and how my views align (or do not align) with this system/philosophy.

As a hobbyist historian, I found it curious that the major events in US History seemed to follow an 80 year cycle. 80 years between the Revolution and the Civil War. 80 years between the Civil War and World War Two. To me, things like this are not chance.

You see, I am a somewhat religious person. I believe that at the most fundamental level, there is either a “Higher Power” or everything happens “by chance”. I think that if you don’t believe in a “Higher Power” then you believe that the Universe/world/mankind were created “by chance”, the so-called random events that would need to occur for life to exist.

Personally, I believe that there is a “Higher Power”. Furthermore, I believe that this “Higher Power’s” greatest creation is not celestial bodies or orbiting planets, but rather the History of this World.

So, when I looked at the cycles that seemed to be occurring, I found that John had developed a good model for explaining the stages of the repeating cycle and how different nationalities/cultures can be in different stages at any given point in time.

I was further enamored of John’s distillation of current world events. His daily articles usually had more insight into what was actually happening than bundles of newspapers and innumerable websites. BTW, I miss those articles very much.

I am in agreement with John over the next basic steps, financial calamity and World War.

However, I do think, in contrast to John, that the “other side” in the war will be a China/Russia main alliance. I, personally, don’t have an opinion on how the Sunni/Shiite thing will split in the war, as I consider both (currently) so far off base as to want nothing to do with either faction. I do have hopes for Iran to fix itself, as Generational Dynamics predicts.

One of the reasons I believe in the China/Russia alliance is my personal belief that Europe is not going to remain untouched by a major war between primarily US and China (or, as John predicts, between US-Russia and China). In fact, I think that a lot of the upcoming future war will take place in Central Europe, and that WW III will have a two-front dynamic for the US that WW II did.

I believe that God (the “Higher Power”) provides guidance and clues regarding what is going to happen next. In some way, I believe that what will happen next is similar to what happened in the last two World Wars.

To me, the First World War was about the destruction of the great absolute monarchies (Russia, Austria-Hungary, and Germany). The war saw their demise. There followed, for Central Europe, a period of near anarchy, of revolutions, coups, and financial chaos. And out of this arose a number of dictators who were far worse than the absolute monarchs; Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini.

This is roughly what I think will happen with WW III. The next world war will utterly destroy the socialist states. They will no longer be able to provide for their citizens. And the people do not have the social structures to compensate for this. This will lead to a post WW III period for Europe that will be FAR worse than the post WW I period. And the individuals with power that will emerge out of this anarchy, I believe, will be far worse than Hitler and Stalin.

As bad as this sounds, I believe it is all part of the plan of history designed by God. I believe that history was designed to fulfill a purpose, and that it has a culmination. In the end, I believe the culmination results in a “greater good”, but it will be an extremely trying and difficult period to experience first hand.

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> At this point, I believe we will go through a financial
> crisis/collapse, followed by a World War. After that, I think most
> of the world will go through a period similar to post World War
> One Europe. To be followed by anarchy then dictators.
guest wrote: > What do you think Europe will look like after WW 3? Will there be
> anyone left to form a government?
World War III will kill hundreds of millions of people in Europe, from
nuclear weapons, conventional weapons, ground war, riots, disease and
famine. Hundreds of millions will live, and they'll get together and
form a new European Union, including the UK, Switzerland, and other
European nations, and everyone will use the new euro2 currency.

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Navigator wrote: > I was further enamored of John’s distillation of current world
> events. His daily articles usually had more insight into what was
> actually happening than bundles of newspapers and innumerable
> websites. BTW, I miss those articles very much.
Yeah, well, I've become increasingly cynical about that. Sure, a few
dozen people enjoyed reading the daily articles, just as people enjoy
reading comic strips every day, as long as they're free, but in the
end no more than few dozen people really cared one way or the other.
I've been a complete fool to think otherwise. Nobody gives a shit.

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John wrote:Yeah, well, I've become increasingly cynical about that. Sure, a few
dozen people enjoyed reading the daily articles, just as people enjoy
reading comic strips every day, as long as they're free, but in the
end no more than few dozen people really cared one way or the other.
I've been a complete fool to think otherwise. Nobody gives a shit.
I think it's more to do with the fact that the final conclusion of Generational Dynamics is too terrifying for most people to think about. We'd rather rant about climate change, which we can blame on our hated political enemies. Or some Hollywood celebrity going to rehab again, or some god-awful reality show.

Much easier to do than think about WWIII killing over a billion people. Gives a better understanding on how people were willing to ignore Germany and Japan for so long, even though it was right in front of their faces. We love to think we're so much smarter and more enlightened than those who came before us, but we're not.

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John wrote:
> At this point, I believe we will go through a financial
> crisis/collapse, followed by a World War. After that, I think most
> of the world will go through a period similar to post World War
> One Europe. To be followed by anarchy then dictators.
guest wrote: > What do you think Europe will look like after WW 3? Will there be
> anyone left to form a government?
World War III will kill hundreds of millions of people in Europe, from
nuclear weapons, conventional weapons, ground war, riots, disease and
famine. Hundreds of millions will live, and they'll get together and
form a new European Union, including the UK, Switzerland, and other
European nations, and everyone will use the new euro2 currency.[
/quote]

This sounds like it is being said in jest.

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This is roughly what I think will happen with WW III. The next world war will utterly destroy the socialist states. They will no longer be able to provide for their citizens. And the people do not have the social structures to compensate for this. This will lead to a post WW III period for Europe that will be FAR worse than the post WW I period. And the individuals with power that will emerge out of this anarchy, I believe, will be far worse than Hitler and Stalin.
Do you see countries even existing in Europe after World War 3 or are you talking Mad Max? What will Europe look like after the next world war? I would like you to expand on this?

Also, i'm religious too, and I follow what you are saying. I just wonder if we are heading for another Noah's Ark like event (few survivors)?

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Guest wrote: > This sounds like it is being said in jest.
It was not said in jest. It's today's equivalent of what has happened
in every major war in history. People always think "this time it's
different," but it never is. If I thought I was going to be around
when it's over, I'd be willing to bet that what happens is exactly
what I described.

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The world will be different for sure. The 4th wave feminists and the rest of the PC crowd will die horrible deaths. Western societies have already been destroyed. The cultural wars have been lost. I know John says that the millennials will be the next 'Greatest Generation', but I don't see that happening. I think The West has been in terminal decline since the mid-60s, and now we are almost at out nadir. Or maybe we are just bouncing along rock bottom. No society can survive in the state that western societies are now.

Rome fell (officially) in 476. I think The West is now in year 475. Or 1452--a year before the conquest of Constantinople. We are screwed.

There will be no room for feminism or political correctness in the future. Nor will anyone who pushes those ideas be allowed to survive (unless they are part of harem of sex slaves).

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