[From the Civil War thread]
Trevor wrote:> Generally, when we think of civil war, we think red states
> fighting against blue states. However, the fault line that's grown
> isn't quite that simple. It's much more of an Urban-rural divide,
> with the suburbs the most divided.
> If we had a civil war, it'd look a lot more like the fighting in
> Syria, Yemen, Yugoslavia, etc. than the Union-Confederacy
> conflict. It's unlikely we'd have two sides fighting each other;
> we'd see several different factions, including possible succession
> efforts by states like California. Having half a dozen different
> groups, sometimes cooperating, sometimes fighting. . . it'd be far
> less straightforward than our historical Civil War.
FishbellykanakaDude wrote:> Nah,.. we'd all have muskets and those de rigueur three-pointed
> Hector Heathcote hats.
> But, yeah, it would be a "War of a Thousand Thousand
> Factions",.. where the average militia size would be about
I've been saying for years that a new American Civil War is
impossible, and I still believe that to be true, but I've definitely
been shaken up by the impeachment hearings.
I actually listened to the five days of public testimony live. I
don't know how many people are going to read this posting, but I doubt
that any one of them besides myself did that.
It was very depressing, because after each day's testimony, I would
listen to the news on the BBC or Al-Jazeera or MS-NBC later, and the
news reports bore absolutely no relationship to what actually
happened. They were total lies -- and I know this because I saw and
heard it with my own eyes.
Every single witness was forced to admit under Republican
cross-examination that they had no evidence whatsoever to support Adam
Schiff's charges. It was all made up. It was all garbage. But every
single news report lied about it, saying something like "Today,
Ambassador X gave explosive testimony that Trump withheld aid from
Ukraine until Ukraine started investigating Joe and Hunter Biden." In
fact, all the news reports used the same words, indicating that they
were all reading the same press releases from Adam Schiff and the
Nothing even remotely close to that ever occurred. The Republican
cross-examination forced every single witness to admit that there was
no evidence for a "quid pro quo" of any kind. It's a total
fabrication and fantasy.
You should be aware that everything you've heard about the impeachment
hearings is completely wrong, because everything you've heard is Adam
Schiff talking points, provided by the Democrats. That's all the
mainstream media quotes. If you want to hear the other side, a good
source is Hannity at 9pm ET on Fox.
The star witness, Gordon Sondland, originally said that there was no
qpq in the bunker hearings. Then he changed his testimony in public
to say that there was a qpq. Then under cross-examination in the
public hearing, he was forced to admit there there was no evidence of
Why did he change his testimonay? Because his family was being
threatened with violence and his businesses were the targets of riots
and demonstrations. These threats and riots were being organized by
Democrats to force Sondland to change his testimony. And it worked,
because he was forced to change his testimony, to keep his family from
being killed or his businesses from being destroyed. Even so, under
Republican cross-examination, he was forced to go back to his original
These threats of violence on Sondland's family and businesses are
being led by Adam Schiff, who has lied and manufactured evidence
dozens of times in the last three years. He is the worst piece of
lying garbage on the scene today -- which is saying something, because
there's a lot of garbage today on the scene in Washington. And it
says a lot that the Democrats are being led by this worthless peace
of garbage. It says a lot about them.
What does this have to do with "civil war"? This has been going on
long before Trump. This is a tribal war targeting the 63 million
Trump supporters, who were known as "The Tea Party" before Trump ran
for office. For years, they've been threatened with violence and
ridiculed by the Democrats.
After three years of the ridiculous Mueller report garbage, the
Democrats have become furious, and now they're looking for blood, and
they won't hesitate to incite and use violence if they don't get their
way. I've seen this happen in too many countries I've written about.
On the other hand, the Tea Partiers / Trump supporters are becoming
increasingly furious about this ridiculous show that's been going on
for three years.
I still don't believe that the country is headed for a civil war, even
if there are some clashes and some people killed. But we are seeing
the early stages of either a civil war or a tribal genocide. I don't
think it will get that far, if only because we'll be at war with China
first, but we're definitely headed in that direction.