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“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

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And the bars on the prison cell ( Earth ) get stronger.
Ranking The Peasants: China Introduces Orwellian "Citizen Scores"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-0 ... zen-scores

Everybody is measured by a score between 350 and 950, which is linked to their national identity card. While currently supposedly voluntary, the government has announced that it will be mandatory by 2020…

In addition to measuring your ability to pay, as in the United States, the scores serve as a measure of political compliance. Among the things that will hurt a citizen’s score are posting political opinions without prior permission, or posting information that the regime does not like, such as about the Tiananmen Square massacre that the government carried out to hold on to power, or the Shanghai stock market collapse.

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“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

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China able to invade, occupy US by 2020:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1090388/pg1
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Tom Mazanec wrote: > China able to invade, occupy US by 2020:
> http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1090388/pg1
It's not surprising that the Chinese are not afraid of war, or that
they expect to win quickly. Here's some stuff that I quoted several
times in the past:
Wolfgang Schivelbusch, The Culture of Defeat wrote: > The passions excited in the national psyche by the onset of war
> show how deeply invested the masses now were in its potential
> outcome. Propaganda had reinforced their conviction that
> "everything was at stake," and the threat of death and defeat
> functioned like a tightly coiled spring, further heightening the
> tension. The almost festive jubilation that accompanied the
> declarations of war in Charleston in 1861, Paris in 1870, and the
> capitals of the major European powers in 1914 were anticipatory
> celebrations of victory-since nations are as incapable of
> imagining their own defeat as individuals are of conceiving their
> own death. The new desire to humiliate the enemy, noted by
> Burckhardt, was merely a reaction to the unprecedented posturing
> in which nations now engaged when declaring war.

However, the euphoria turns to panic when the first military disaster
occurs, as described by the 1832 book, On War, General Carl von
Clausewitz:
Carl von Clausewitz wrote: > The effect of defeat outside the army -- on the people and on the
> government -- is a sudden collapse of the wildest expectations,
> and total destruction of self-confidence. The destruction of
> these feelings creates a vacuum, and that vacuum gets filled by a
> fear that grows corrosively, leading to total paralysis. It's a
> blow to the whole nervous system of the losing side, as if caused
> by an electric charge. This effect may appear to a greater or
> lesser degree, but it's never completely missing. Then, instead of
> rushing to repair the misfortune with a spirit of determination,
> everyone fears that his efforts will be futile; or he does
> nothing, leaving everything to Fate.

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Is Washington Preparing For World War III?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-0 ... ld-war-iii

The hearings were component parts of an ongoing process. The witnesses referred to their past writings and statements. The senators and representatives referred to previous testimony by other witnesses. In other words, the preparations for world war, using cyber weapons, aircraft carriers, bombers, missiles and the rest of a vast array of weaponry, have been under way for a protracted period of time. They are not a response to recent events, whether in the South China Sea, Ukraine, Syria or anywhere else.
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This was just as true for the Democratic senators and representatives as for their Republican counterparts. By custom, the two parties are seated on opposite sides of the committee or subcommittee chairmen. Without that arrangement, there would be no way of detecting, from their questions and expressions of opinion, which party they belonged to.

Contrary to the media portrayal of Washington as deeply divided between parties with intransigently opposed political outlooks, there was bipartisan agreement on this most fundamental of issues, the preparation of a new imperialist world war.
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While the witnesses and senators chose to use the names of Snowden and Manning to personify the “enemy within,” they were clearly conscious that the domestic opposition to war is far broader than a few individual whistleblowers.

This is not a matter simply of the deep-seated revulsion among working people in response to 14 years of bloody imperialist interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Libya, Syria, Yemen and across North Africa, important as that is.

A war between the United States and a major power like China or Russia, even if it were possible to prevent its escalation into an all-out nuclear exchange, would involve a colossal mobilization of the resources of American society, both economic and human. It would mean further dramatic reductions in the living standards of the American people, combined with a huge blood toll that would inevitably fall mainly on the children of the working class.

Ever since the Vietnam War, the US military has operated as an all-volunteer force, avoiding conscription, which provoked widespread opposition and direct defiance in the 1960s and early 1970s. A non-nuclear war with China or Russia would mean the restoration of the draft and bring the human cost of war home to every family in America.

Under those conditions, no matter how great the buildup of police powers and the resort to repressive measures against antiwar sentiments, the stability of American society would be put to the test.

The US ruling elite is deeply afraid of the political consequences. And it should be.
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fragging-- deliberately kill (an unpopular senior officer), typically with a hand grenade.
the following from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragging# ... _incidents

The U.S. military's responses to fragging incidents included greater restrictions on access to weapons, especially grenades, for soldiers in non-combat units and "lock downs" after a fragging incident in which a whole unit was isolated until an investigation was concluded. For example, in May 1971, the U.S. Army in Vietnam temporarily halted the issuance of grenades to nearly all its units and soldiers in Vietnam, inventoried stocks of weapons, and searched soldier's quarters, confiscating weapons, ammunition, grenades, and knives. This action, however, failed to reduce fragging incidents as soldiers could easily obtain weapons in a flourishing black market among nearby Vietnamese communities. The U.S. military also attempted to diminish adverse publicity concerning fragging and the security measures it was taking to reduce it.

In Vietnam the threat of fragging caused many officers and non-commissioned officers to go armed in rear areas and to change their sleeping arrangements as fragging often consisted of throwing a grenade into a tent where the target was sleeping. For fear of being fragged some leaders turned a blind eye to drug use and other indiscipline among the men in their charge. Fragging, the threat of fragging, and investigations of fragging sometimes disrupted or delayed tactical combat operations. Officers were sometimes forced to negotiate with their enlisted men to obtain their consent before undertaking dangerous patrols.[19]

The breakdown of discipline, including fragging, was an important factor leading to the creation of an all-volunteer military force by the United States and the termination of conscription. The last conscript was inducted into the army in 1973.[20][21] The volunteer military moderated some of the coercive methods of discipline previously used to maintain order in military ranks.
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Shades of the Czar"s army toward the end of WWI ?

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“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

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“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

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