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Re: Kim Visits Beijing
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:38 pm
by thomasglee
Re: Kim Visits Beijing
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:16 pm
by John
thomasglee wrote:
> Yes, sir, that's how I see it, and it makes sense, based on
> precedent as there have been several times throughout history when
> the northern clans would align with China and the southern clans
> with Japan. People like to think Korean has always been this
> unified country when in reality, there have always been splits,
> based on regional differences. Even today, within South Korea, a
> regional rivalry exists between the residents of Gyeongsang and
> Jeolla provinces. A rivalry goes back thousands of years and that
> sometimes can get very heated. Have you ever read about the
> Kwangju Massacre in 1980?
> Here's a good article, from 1987, that might help.
>
https://www.nytimes.com/1987/11/22/week ... tical.html
Thanks for that link. And yes, I've written about the Kwangju
massacre and the 1987 mini-coup a couple of times in the last ten
years.
** 30-Jan-18 World View -- NY Times publishes a generational analysis of South Korea
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e180130
Thanks for the information.
Re: Kim Visits Beijing
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:46 pm
by thomasglee
Thanks; I forgot about those writings. I was living in Korea (in the military) from 1986 to 1989 (and of course, I have spent a lot of time thereafter as well) and it was a very interesting time to live through.
John wrote:thomasglee wrote:
> Yes, sir, that's how I see it, and it makes sense, based on
> precedent as there have been several times throughout history when
> the northern clans would align with China and the southern clans
> with Japan. People like to think Korean has always been this
> unified country when in reality, there have always been splits,
> based on regional differences. Even today, within South Korea, a
> regional rivalry exists between the residents of Gyeongsang and
> Jeolla provinces. A rivalry goes back thousands of years and that
> sometimes can get very heated. Have you ever read about the
> Kwangju Massacre in 1980?
> Here's a good article, from 1987, that might help.
>
https://www.nytimes.com/1987/11/22/week ... tical.html
Thanks for that link. And yes, I've written about the Kwangju
massacre and the 1987 mini-coup a couple of times in the last ten
years.
** 30-Jan-18 World View -- NY Times publishes a generational analysis of South Korea
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e180130
Thanks for the information.
Re: Kim Visits Beijing
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:32 pm
by John
The train is already returning to North Korea. Now the theory is
there was no VIP in it at all, but the train trip was a dress
rehearsal for a future trip by Kim.
Re: Kim Visits Beijing
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:31 pm
by John
North Korea’s enigmatic young leader, Kim Jong-un, made an unannounced visit to Beijing, meeting with President Xi Jinping weeks before planned summit meetings with American and South Korean leaders, Chinese Central TV reported on Wednesday. - NY Times
Re: Kim Visits Beijing
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:37 am
by thomasglee
And in other news of the day,
China sends massive navy for South China Sea war games after President Xi Jinping vowed to wage ‘bloody battle’ for world domination.
Seriously, I am starting to think these are all coordinated actions.
John wrote:North Korea’s enigmatic young leader, Kim Jong-un, made an unannounced visit to Beijing, meeting with President Xi Jinping weeks before planned summit meetings with American and South Korean leaders, Chinese Central TV reported on Wednesday. - NY Times
Re: Kim Visits Beijing
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:18 pm
by John
It appears that China is seriously beginning to prepare
China's public for war -- a necessary prerequisition to
actually launching a war.
Yesterday's Global Times article vividly illustrates China's
utter contempt for the West and for international law.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1095361.shtml
Re: Kim Visits Beijing
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:24 pm
by thomasglee
I agree. For the first time I’m starting to hear friends and family in Korea express real concerns about China’s belligerence.
Daily I am amazed at how much those on the left (and right to a large extent) are ignoring China’s real threats over Russia’s politically expedient threat.
Will they wake up before, or after, the first shots are fired?
John wrote:
It appears that China is seriously beginning to prepare
China's public for war -- a necessary prerequisition to
actually launching a war.
Yesterday's Global Times article vividly illustrates China's
utter contempt for the West and for international law.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1095361.shtml
Re: Kim Visits Beijing
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:28 pm
by John
In most cases, after.
Re: Kim Visits Beijing
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:29 pm
by thomasglee
I would be willing to bet nKorea carried out the assasination on behalf of China as a distraction and to serve as an additional wedge between the West and Russia. It would not be a stretch for nKorea to be in possession of a Russian nerve agent.