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StilesBC
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Re: South Africa, Zimbabwe and southern Africa

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Not to change the subject, but I've had my eyes on another part of South East Africa of late. Excuse the conspiratorial tone that this may come across with, but I try to look at all information carefully, no matter how outlandish it may seem.

I'm focussed on Kenya and Sudan. Here is the logic I've heard from others:

First we start with the views of Zbigniew Brzezinski, who as we know is a top foreign advisor to President-Elect Obama. I personally think Brzezinski is a psychopath. He is constantly obsessed with American world domination. The guy has a hard on for proxy-wars, and takes personal credit for the collapse of the Soviet Union after instigating the Afghan war with the USSR. In one of his latest books - The Grand Chessboard (which I admit not to have read yet) he apparently hints at the next potential proxy war to be fought against China. And that it would be done in Africa.

The logic is that China gets much of it's oil from Sudan, "an evil islamic nation" that are killing millions of their own people in a civil war. Apparently Brzezinski wants to use the Christian Kenyans to fight the Sudanese, cutting off China's access to oil. Here's where things get interesting. Why would the Kenyans just jump to war? Well if you saw election day on Nov 4th, you're probably connecting the dots. Obama, with his Kenyan background is enormously popular there, and it is to be said that they would do anything at his command.

I've heard from a few different sources (some of them sound kind of loony) that Brzezinski has been grooming Obama for the presidency for years, just for this purpose. And that in fact, Obama is just a puppet of Brzezinski.

I don't know what to make of these theories, but I'm more inclined to believe them than not. I'd be interested to hear the opinions of others on this matter.

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Re: South Africa, Zimbabwe and southern Africa

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StilesBC wrote: > First we start with the views of Zbigniew Brzezinski, who as we
> know is a top foreign advisor to President-Elect Obama. I
> personally think Brzezinski is a psychopath. He is constantly
> obsessed with American world domination. The guy has a hard on for
> proxy-wars, and takes personal credit for the collapse of the
> Soviet Union after instigating the Afghan war with the USSR. In
> one of his latest books - The Grand Chessboard (which I admit not
> to have read yet) he apparently hints at the next potential proxy
> war to be fought against China. And that it would be done in
> Africa.
I hadn't heard about this thing with Brzezinski and Russia's Afghan
war until this past August, when I heard an interview on the Georgian
war by the son of Nikita Khruschev:

** Russian invasion of Georgia continues, objective is not known
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/cgi ... 12#e080812


The Russians are also willing to blame Brzezinski for the Afghan war,
so that they don't have to blame themselves.

I guess the Russians would have us believe that they're so incredibly
stupid that they would go to war for ten years because of a simple
disinformation campaign by Brzezinski.

On tv shows, Brzezinski is usually paired with Henry Kissinger, and
the contrast is enormous. Kissinger gives a deep, thorough
geopolitical analysis of any international situation, while Brzezinski
spews utter crap.

Sincerely,

John

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Re: South Africa, Zimbabwe and southern Africa

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While reading the entry, "'Liberation Hero' Robert Mugabe now destroys Zimbabwe with cholera," I saw that Thabo Mbeki was mentioned for his refusal to distribute AZT. I want to introduce anyone interested into the story behind AZT and into AIDS dissidence.

AZT is 1) dangerous
2) ineffective
3) approved by the FDA through negligence

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/jlfraud.htm

The crux of the problem is that there is absolutely no proof and never has been that HIV causes AIDS. There are several great websites dedicated to explaining why HIV is used to explain AIDS when in fact there is no link between them. The reason I even bring this up is because I believe that the members on this forum are open minded and will at least investigate the matter objectively. Try looking through this article for an introduction into the issue,

http://www.o3center.org/Articles/Whatishiv.html

Here is a list of AIDS dissidents. The list includes nobel prize winning chemist Kary Mullis, as well as the Peter Duesberg who was the first to discover a gene related to cancer (oncogene),

A LIST OF HIGH PROFILE AIDS DISSIDENTS

* Mohammad Ali Al-Bayati. PhD, Toxicologist and Pathologist, California. Author, "Get all the facts: HIV does not cause AIDS"
* Liz Byrski. Author, "Facing Cancer-Searching for Solutions" and other books. Adjunct Teaching Fellow, Curtin University of Technology. Winner, CSIRO Award for Excellence in Science Journalism (1996), Fremantle, Western Australia
* Hiram Caton. PhD, Ethicist, Head of the School of Applied Ethics at Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia
* Nicholas D. Chester. PhD, Molecular Biology and Biochemistry, Genetics Department, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts
* Rebecca Veronica Culshaw. PhD. Assistant Professor of Mathematics, University of Texas at Tyler. Advisor, Journal of Biological Systems. Studied and published mathematical models of HIV infection for 10 years.
* Leopoldo Della Ciana. PhD, Chemist, President and Scientific Director, Cyanagen srl, Bologna, Italy; former Postdoctoral Fellow, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, former Senior Research Scientist at IGEN, Rockville, Maryland and Research Group Leader, SORIN Biomedica, Saluggia, Italy
* Juan Jose Flores. MD, PhD, Professor of Medicine, La Universidad Veracruzana, Mexico
* Sky Gilbert. PhD, University of Toronto (2005). University Research Chair in Creative Writing and Theatre Studies at Guelph University (2006). Actor/Playwright/Director, Columnist, Poet, Film Writer/Director/Producer, Novelist, Drag Queen. Received the Pauline McGibbon Award for directing (1985) and the Dora Award (1992).
* William I. Grosky. PhD, Professor and Chair, Department of Computer and Information Science, University of Michigan-Dearborn.
* Mae-Wan Ho. PhD, Geneticist and Biophysicist, Open University, London, UK. Director, Institute of Science in Society; Author and activist. Awarded the Chan Kai Ming Prize for Biological Sciences (HK) 1964; Fellow of the National Genetics Foundation (USA) 1971-1974; Vida Sana Award (Spain) 1998. Says immune deficiency syndromes can be caused by drugs and anti-Hiv medicines
* Vladimir Koliadin. PhD, Statistician, Senior Research Scientist, State Aerospace University, Kharkov, Ukraine
* Lisa Landymore-lim. PhD, Biochemist, Sydney, Australia, author, "Poisonous Prescriptions"
* Leon Louw. Executive Director, Free Market Foundation and Law Review Project, South Africa; co-author, "Beyond Apartheid" and other books; nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1989, 1991, and 1992
* Richard MacIntyre. PhD, former Fulbright Scholar, Professor & Robert Wood Johnson Executive Nurse Fellow, Samuel Merritt College, Sacramento, California. Author, "Mortal Men: Living With Asymptomatic HIV"
* Jonas Moses. PhD. Chicago, IL, USA.
* Gary Null. PhD, syndicated host of "Natural Living with Gary Null," author ( "AIDS, A Second Opinion" ), and a producer of PBS special programs. His "Deconstructing the Myth of AIDS" won the Audience Award for Best Documentary at both the New York and Los Angeles International Independent Film and Video Festivals.
* Rodney Richards. PhD, Biochemist, Founding scientist for the biotech company Amgen. Collaborated with Abbott Laboratories in developing some of the first HIV tests
* Roberto P. Stock. PhD, Research Scientist, Instituto de Biotecnologia, Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico
* Slawomir Szymanski. PhD and D.Sc. in Chemistry. Professor, Institute of Organic Chemistry, Polish Academy of Sciences, Warsaw, Poland
* Jacek Wójcik. PhD, Chemist, Institute of Biochemistry and Biophysics, Polish Academy of Sciences, Warszawa, Poland
* Chun Xu. MD, PhD, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
* William Young. PhD, Genetics, Lansing, Michigan
* Vladimir Zajac. PhD, Oncovirologist, Geneticist, Cancer Research Institute, Bratislava, Slovak Republic
* Dr. Kary Mullis. PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing the polymerase chain reaction, the basis for the HIV "viral load" tests.
* Dr. David Rasnick. PhD, Biochemist, Protease Inhibitor Developer, University of California
* Dr. Gordon Stewart. MD, Emeritus Professor of Public Health, University of Glasgow. Former Consultant Physician (Epidemiology and Preventive Medicine) to National Health Service (UK) and WHO. Author of over 100 journal articles and contributions to symposia, as well as such books as "Trends in Epidemiology" and "The Penicillin Group of Drugs".
* Dr. Alfred Hassig. MD, Professor in Immunology, University of Bern, former Director, Swiss Red Cross blood banks
* Dr. Peter Duesberg. PhD, Professor of Molecular Biology, University of California, member, National Academy of Sciences, first to map the genetic structure of retroviruses. Five-time recipient of the National Institutes of Health's Outstanding Investigator Grant. (All federal grants terminated when he started challenging the HIV theory). Author, "Inventing the AIDS Virus"
* Dr. Sam Mhlongo. MD, Head of the Department of Family Medicine and Primary Health Care at the Medical University of South Africa, Johannesburg.
* Dr. Donald W. Miller. Jr., MD (Harvard, 1965), BMS (Dartmouth, 1963), Professor of Surgery, University of Washington School of Medicine. Author of "The Practice of Coronary Artery Bypass Surgery" (1977), co-author of "Atlas of Cardiac Surgery" (1983, Japanese version 1985), author of "Heart in Hand" (1999).
* Dr. Martin Feldman. MD, Assistant Clinical Professor of Neurology at Mount Sinai School of Medicine, New York, graduate of Columbia University's College of Physicians and Surgeons, author of more than 50 articles published in peer-reviewed medical journals
* Dr. Valendar Turner. MD, Royal Perth Hospital, University of Western Australia
* Dr. Serge Lang. PhD, Professor of Mathematics, Yale University; awarded the Dylan Hixon '88 Prize for Teaching Excellence in the Natural Sciences; also the Steel and Cole prizes of the American Mathematical Society; Author of 37 books; former Fulbright Scholar; Member, US National Academy of Sciences.
* Harvey Bialy. PhD. Founding and scientific editor, Nature Biotechnology (1983-1996). Resident Scholar, Institute of Biotechnology/Autonomous National University of Mexico (1996-2006), Member, South Africa Presidential Aids Advisory Panel (2000-present). Author of "Oncogenes, Aneuploidy and AIDS: A Scientific Life & Times of Peter H. Duesberg".
* Dr. Claus Koehnlein. MD, AIDS and Internal Medicine specialist, Kiel, Germany
* Neville Hodgkinson. former Science Editor, The Times of London; author, "AIDS: The Failure of Contemporary Science"
* Dr. Etienne de Harven. MD, Emeritus Professor of Pathology, University of Toronto (1981-1993). Professor of Cell Biology, Cornell Graduate School of Medical Science (1968-1981). Associate Professor (1964-1968). Assistant Professor, Pathology. Université Libre de Bruxells (1956-1962). Belgian Air Force Medical Corps (1953-1956). Author of over 100 peer-reviewed medical papers on virology, cancer, immunology and electron microscopy.
* Dr. Richard Strohman. PhD, Professor Emeritus of Molecular and Cell Biology, University of California, Berkeley; former Director of the Health and Medical Sciences Program at UC Berkeley
* Dr. Randall R. 'Rush' Wayne. MA, Molecular Biology, Harvard University, PhD, Biochemistry, University of California
* Dr. Heinz Ludwig Sänger. PhD, Emeritus Professor of Molecular Biology and Virology and a former director of the Department of Viroid Research, Max Planck Institute for Biochemistry, Germany; Recipient of the international Robert Koch award for medical research, 1978*
* Dr. Heinz Spranger. PhD, DDM. German Nosologist and Semiotist, and Practitioner in Periodontology and Oral Medicine. Former founder and Dean of the Faculty of Oral Medicine at the University Witten/Herdecke, former head of the Department of Periodontology and Oral Medicine, Johann Wolfgang Goethe University, Frankfurt/Main. Recipient of the German Ribbon of the Order of the Distinguished Service Cross for his humanitarian scientific efforts
* Dr. Matthew Irwin. MD, Washington, DC
* Dr. Christian Fiala. MD, PhD, specialist in OB/Gyn, Vienna, Austria; Member of President Mbeki's AIDS Advisory Board
* Dr. George Kent. PhD, Chairman, Political Science Department, University of Hawaii, Honolulu. Coordinator of the Task Force on Children's Nutrition Rights for the World Alliance on Nutrition and Human Rights and the World Alliance for Breastfeeding Action
* Todd Miller. PhD, Assistant Professor, Department of Molecular and Cellular Pharmacology, University of Miami School of Medicine, Florida
* Dr. Henry Bauer. PhD, Professor Emeritus of Chemistry & Science Studies and Dean Emeritus of Arts & Sciences at Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University; Former Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of Scientific Exploration; Author, "The Origins, Persistence and Failings of HIV/AIDS Theory", "Fatal Attractions: The Troubles with Science", "Scientific Literacy and the Myth of the Scientific Method", "Science or Pseudoscience: Magnetic Healing, Psychic Phenomena, and other heterodoxies" and other books
* Andrew Maniotis. PhD, Program Director, Cell and Developmental Biology of Cancer, Departments of Pathology, Anatomy and Cell Biology, and Bioengineering, University of Illinois at Chicago
* Andrea G. Drusini. MD, PhD. Medical Anthropologist, Professor of Anthropology, Department of Medico-Diagnostic Sciences and Special Therapies, University of Padova, Italy
* Joan Shenton. MA, Meditel Productions, England. Medical journalist and producer of over 100 TV documentaries which won her company seven international awards as well as the British Royal Television Society Award and the British Medical Association Award
* Dr. Kevin Corbett. PhD (on sociological impact of antibody, T cell and viral load/PCR tests), Independent Research Consultant, London, UK.
* Dr. Mae-Wan Ho. PhD, Geneticist and Biophysicist, Open University, London, UK. Director, Institute of Science in Society; Author and activist. Awarded the Chan Kai Ming Prize for Biological Sciences (HK) 1964; Fellow of the National Genetics Foundation (USA) 1971-1974; Vida Sana Award (Spain) 1998
* Dr. Gerardo Sanchez. PhD, Nutritionist, Miami, Florida; Author, "VIH/SIDA, Una Gran Mentira" (HIV/AIDS, a Great Lie); President, USAS, Union por Soluciones Alternativas para el SIDA (Organization for Alternative Solutions for AIDS) and Director of http://www.sidainformatica.org
* Halton Arp. BS Harvard University, PhD, California Institute of Technology. Astrophysicist, Max-Planck-Institute for Astrophysics, Munich, Germany; awarded the Helen B. Warner Prize of the American Astronomical Society, the Newcomb Cleveland Award of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the Alexander von Humboldt Senior Scientist Award; President of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific, 1980 to 1983. Author of "The Atlas of Peculiar Galaxies," "Quasars, Redshifts and Controversies" and "Seeing Red: Redshifts, Cosmology and Academic Science"
* Abdulalim A. Shabazz. MSc, M.I.T., PhD, Cornell Univ.; Distinguished Prof. of Mathematics, Lincoln University, Pennsylvania. Former chair, Mathematics Dept., Atlanta Univ.; American Assn. for the Advancement of Science "Mentor Award" (1992); National Assn. Of Mathematicians Distinguished Service Award; 1995 recipient of the QEM/MSE "Giants in Science" Award
* Robert O. Young. DSc, PhD. Researcher into the impact of foods and liquids on the delicate pH balance of blood plasma and cells. Author of "The pH Miracle: Balance Your Diet, Reclaim Your Health", and "Sick and Tired? Reclaim Your Inner Terrain".
* Lodewyk Kock. PhD, Professor of Biotechnology, University of the Free State, Bloemfontein, South Africa. Awarded Joint Runner-Up Prize in Research and Innovation from SA's National Science and Technology Forum (2002)
* Stoffer Loman. PhD, Pharmaceutical Chemist, Utrecht, Netherlands
* Yang-chu Higgins. Medical Anthropologist, Washington, DC. Winner of the Fogarty Award for Biomedical Research from the National Institutes of Health (1995)
* Ricardo Sánchez. PhD, Biochemistry, Mexicali, Mexico
* Mary Sevigny. PhD, Molecular Biology, University of California, Berkeley. Cancer researcher, University of California, San Francisco. Lecturer in Biology, Napa Valley College (2004-5). Adjunct professor in Microbiology, Dominican University (2006-). Member, American Societies for Biochemmistry and Molecular Biology and Cell Biology.
* Rochus Börner. PhD, Mathematics, Arizona State University. Science writer
* George Davidson. MB ChB, PhD, Biophysicist, Biochemist, Physician. Bronte Stuart Prize-winner UCT, Senior Research Scientist, biotech pharmaceutical R&D, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
* Vernon Coleman. MD, D.Sc., Hon. Professor of Holistic Medical Sciences at the Open International University, Sri Lanka. Author of the bestsellers "Bodypower", "Mrs. Caldicot's Cabbage War", "How To Stop Your Doctor Killing You" and over 90 other books that have been translated into 23 languages. Author of over 5,000 articles in leading British publications. Former editor, British Clinical Journal. Awarded the Yellow Emperor's Certificate of Excellence as Physician of the Millenium by the Medical Alternativa Institute (2000)
* Ingrid Fernando. DVM, PhD in Cell/Molecular Biology, Bethesda, Maryland
* David Lueker. PhD. Full Professor Emeritus of Immunology, Colorado State University, Fort Collins, USA
* Sir David Smith. MA, DPhil, FRS, FRSE. Biologist. Fellow of the Royal Society. Founder Member of the International Society of Endocytobiology. Principle of Edinburgh University 1989 - 1994. Head of the largest graduate college (Wolfson) Oxford University 1994 - 2000. Currently government adviser on environmental concerns.
* Phyllis Pease. DSc, PhD, Former Senior Lecturer in Medical Microbiology, University of Birmingham, UK. Continued work at University of Toulouse, France. Author 'AIDS, Cancer and Arthritis: A New Perspective' (2005) and 'L-Forms, Episomes and Autoimmune Disease' (1965)
* Lynn Margulis. PhD, Biologist, Distinguished Professor of Geosciences, University of Massachusetts at Amherst. Originated the Endosymbiotic Theory for the origin of eukaryotic cells in 1966, which was ridiculed for years by the scientific establishment until proven in the 1980s. Recipient of the National Medal of Science (1999). Member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. Elected to the National Academy of Sciences in 1983. Author of over 130 scientific works and the books, "Origin of Eukaryotic Cells", "Early Life", "Symbiosis as a Source of Evolutionary Innovation: Speciation and Morphogenesis", "Symbiotic Planet: A New Look at Evolution", "The Ice Chronicles: The Quest to Understand Global Climate Change" and many others. The Library of Congress started to permanently archive all of her papers in 1998.
* James MacAllister. Medical Documentary Film Maker. Winner of many awards including First Prize in the Health Science Communications Association Awards, 1989, Continuing Education for Physicians category for "Surgical Implantation Dermaport Peritoneal Dialysis Catheter"; New England Chapter American Medical Writers Association, 1991, Audiovisual Award of Excellence for "Recent Advances in Cranial Perforation"; 1992 Video Publishing Award of Excellence for "Minimizing Post Dural Puncture Headaches"; 1993 Video Publishing Award of Excellence for "Institute for the Study of Cardiovascular and Muscle Diseases"; 1996 William Solimene Award for Audiovisual Media for "Living Well with Diabetes Type I" and many others.
* John Stenström. PhD. Department of Microbiology. Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences. Uppsala. Sweden
* Gordon Burns. PhD. Professor of Cancer Research, Previous recipient of federal AIDS funding, Newcastle, Australia.
* Joel Kauffman. PhD in Organic Chemistry, MIT. Emeritus Professor of Chemistry, University of the Sciences in Philadelphia. A specialist in exploratory drug development, he obtained grants and contracts from the US National Institutes of Health, the Department of Energy, the Office of Naval Research, Army Research Office and various companies. Author of 80 papers on chemical and medical topics, and holder of 11 patents, including 2 on anti-tuberculosis drugs, Dr. Kauffman now works to expose fraud in medicine. Author, "Malignant Medical Myths: Why Medical Treatment Causes 200,000 Deaths in the USA Each Year".
* Dorion Sagan. Science writer for The New York Times, Bioscience, The Times Higher Education Supplement, Wired, Natural History, Coevolution Quarterly, The Smithsonian, The Sciences, The Science Teacher, Whole Earth, Omni, The Environmentalist, The Ecologist and The New York Times Book Review. Author or co-author of 16 books translated into 11 languages, including "Up From Dragons: The Evolution of Human Intelligence", "Acquiring Genomes", "Microcosmos", "Origins Of Sex", "Into the Cool: Energy Flow, Thermodynamics, and Life", and "What is Life?"
* Terry Michael. Executive Director, Washington Center for Politics & Journalism, and former Press Secretary, Democratic National Committee. Recipient of the "Distinguished Service Award" in 2001 from the Washington, DC, chapter of the Society of Professional Journalists and the "Presidential Award" in 2002 from the Association for Education in Journalism and Mass Communication. He has served as a guest lecturer on media and politics, in the US and abroad, for the US Department of State and is a former adjunct lecturer at George Washington University.
* Vincent Graziano. PhD, Mathematics. SUNY at Stony Brook.
* Andrew Paul Gutierrez. PhD. Professor of Ecosystem Science, University of California at Berkeley. Co-author of a report to the Governor of California on climate change. Editor of "Ecological Entomology" (2nd ed. 1999). Co-author of "Biological and Economic Foundations of Renewable Resource Exploitation" (1998), "Evaluating biological control of yellow starthistle (Centaurea solstitialis) in California" (2005), "Why do some Bt-cotton farmers in China continue to use high levels of pesticides?" (2005), "Physiologically based model of Bt cotton-pest interactions: I. Pink bollworm: resistance, refuges and risk" (2006) and "Eco-social analysis of an East African agropastoral system: management of tsetse and bovine trypanosomiasis" (in press).
* Dr. Philip C. Packard. PhD Economics (1962) and Master of Public Health, School of Public Health (1986), UC Berkeley. Professor of Economics, Institute of Social Studies, The Hague, Holland, 1965-9. Manager and Editor of Journal "Development and Change", 1969-71 and Corresponding Editor, 1971-81. Ford Foundation Advisor to Government of Tanzania, 1970-72. Senior Economist, Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO), Rome, 1972-84. University Fellow in Nutrition, Division of Nutritional Sciences, Cornell University, 1981-2. Advisor on Health and Education, African Development Bank, Abidjan, Ivory Coast, 1987-9. Fulbright Economics Professor, University of Botswana, 1989-90. Fulbright Economics Professor, University of Durban-Westville, Durban, South Africa 1995. Lecturer, Saint Mary's College of California 1990-2006. Lecturer, University of California Extension, Berkeley 2003-Present.
* Dr. A. Makata. Dipl (Clinical Medicine), MD (USSR), Certificate in Tropical Pathology (Japan), PhD in Pathology (Japan), DFM in Pathology (Australia). Consultant Forensic and Histopathologist, Head of Forensic Unit. Ministry of Health. Tanzania.
* Mohsen Fathi Najafi. PhD Biotechnology. Vaccine Researcher. Iran.
* William F. Shughart II. PhD. Barnard Distinguished Professor of Economics, and holder of the Robert M. Hearin Chair of Business Administration at the University of Mississippi. Formerly, economist at the Federal Trade Commission. Associate editor, "Southern Economic Journal"; Book review editor, "Public Choice" and "Managerial and Decision Economics" journals. Author of "Taxing Choice: The Predatory Politics of Fiscal Discrimination"; "The Elgar Companion to Public Choice: The Organization of Industry"; "Antitrust Policy and Interest-Group Politics". Co-author, "Modern Managerial Economics"; "The Causes and Consequences of Antitrust"; and "The Economics of Budget Deficits".
* Pablo Idahosa. PhD. Director, African Studies, York University. Toronto, Canada.
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StilesBC
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Re: South Africa, Zimbabwe and southern Africa

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ResisTemptation,

Consider me appalled but not surprised. The FDA is one of the most corrupt bureaucracies in the US - that says a lot. I am extremely concerned with the growing influence of this particular bureaucracy. They appear to have taken it upon themselves to regulate every single morsel of food we put in our bodies. When you combine that with their tight relationship with major agricultural companies (Monsanto usually being the major culprit) it is obvious to see what the conflict of interest is - and it's potential consequences.

Like any bureaucracy, their purpose is not to serve the people. Their purpose is to grow in size and influence, and to make money.

They are just one of many mega-bureaucracies that must be destroyed.

ResisTemptation
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Re: South Africa, Zimbabwe and southern Africa

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StilesBC wrote:ResisTemptation,

Consider me appalled but not surprised. The FDA is one of the most corrupt bureaucracies in the US - that says a lot. I am extremely concerned with the growing influence of this particular bureaucracy. They appear to have taken it upon themselves to regulate every single morsel of food we put in our bodies. When you combine that with their tight relationship with major agricultural companies (Monsanto usually being the major culprit) it is obvious to see what the conflict of interest is - and it's potential consequences.

Like any bureaucracy, their purpose is not to serve the people. Their purpose is to grow in size and influence, and to make money.

They are just one of many mega-bureaucracies that must be destroyed.
+1
Neither am I surprised. I could not have said it better myself. Cheers, mate!

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Re: South Africa, Zimbabwe and southern Africa

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Let's get back to the original issue: Cholera in southern Africa.

Mugabe has destroyed Zimbabwe's economy- it used to be one of the most prosperous countries in the region, and now it is experiencing a hyperinflationary depression. This is all well documented.

Cholera is well understood, and it can be both prevented and treated. What we are seeing in Zimbabwe is that the resources are simply no longer available to either treat it or prevent it. What is interesting to me (can you say morbid fascination?) is how it is spreading to neighboring countries that have a better public health infrastructure. Not really a surprise, but it speaks to how diseases will disregard our polictical boundaries, and how quickly our neighbor's problems can become our own.

Now let's fast forward a few years: Here we are in the USA, after a global financial meltdown has put us into mere survival mode. The good news is that we no longer have an immigration problem- now that they can't make any more money here than they could back home, most of the undocumented workers from Mexico and South America have returned to their homes and families. The bad news is that the public health infrastructure has collapsed. Diseases that we thought were simply historical curiosities (Malaria, Yellow Fever, etc) have returned. Global warming allows tropical diseases (ie, dengue fever) to establish themselves on our shores. No-one can afford to vaccinate their pets against rabies, if they can afford to have pets at all. Then we start to hear rumors that there is a cholera outbreak in California...

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