FishbellykanakaDude wrote:We'll probably get to that after awhile. But first I'll answer this missive.esthec wrote:
now kind point out that where im lost in this Practical explanation. kind point that out.
And thanks for offering to converse with me about this very interesting topic!
I do agree **skip**To me, these "beings" are actual persons.and what is that unconvincing thing ? that there is father before our birth ? and our authority ( or mother ) has seen him ? and knows it that who has tilled her ?
We recognize our "real father" by recognizing our "real mother" as the collection of things of the same "nature" as herself that were born of her at the "direction" of her spouse, our father.
is this thing is unconvincing ? than you explain us the process of recognizing of our real father. go ahead and do it.
We were indeed "assembled" at the "insistence" of our father by our mother from her source material. But the important thing is that the "chain" of being goes back "mechanically" all the way to the first "insistence" from the father.
and no saying ( you can never say this thing in every or any respect that there is no father before our birth { it is impossible to say }) for you are not dropped from the sky into the womb of your mother.
I don't pretend to speak for ALL Catholics, obviously, as my views (misunderstood) are seemingly quite heretical.______________________
and what explanation your theology or catholics have got ? explain that and than talk about your religion,
The above "explanation" is what I believe, and to me it comports perfectly with Catholic dogma.
Are you sure "authority" is the word you mean in the sentence above?
for if you i have to listen to you on the basics of faith or belief, personal experience or holy books quotes than rest of all 3500 religions are doing the same thing is that means i have to follow all of them ? so that is not the arguement.
and as far as question of us ( The Hare Krishnas ) so here is Practical explanation for that which supports our authority.
I claim no authority from my observation of the obvious. It does give me various insights into the "way the world works", of course, but I don't claim any "authority" to DO anything because of what I know to be true.
I'm only a "grammar nazi" for humorous effect. As I said, I commend you heartily for conversing in your "not first" language, and doing it pretty darned well!_______________
and still if you want to press on the english or grammer than you are simply an rascal fraud ( or hypocrite fraud )
for as i said before that //although my english is not very grammatically, rhetorically correct and Rascals are concerned with grammar. Actual workers are concerned with thoughts.//
All explanations have faults, as all analogies eventually break down eventually due to their not being "perfect" descriptions of what they are attempting to describe,.. but the "convincing-ness" of an explanation is determined by it's congruity with "the point" of the thing in question.
and this Practical explanation has no fault at all. but if you think that there is something lost or pointless or unconvincing than you kindly point that thing out and finish the business. ( for its an open challenge )
In other words: I'm not sure (in this case) what point you're trying to make with the explanation that you've given.
I'll "markup" your initial posting with some questions as to where I'm unclear about what you've said.___________
so i will wait for you to point out those things which you could not understand or anything which you are not able to understand point them out and finish the business.
Aloha and nā mahalo to yaʻ! <shaka nui!>
and than authority is also the damn person ( just like mother ) and he is not an imagination. and is free from this four defects which are being illusioned, sure to commit mistakes, has tendency to cheat others and has imperfect senses.
and if these things are person to you than ( i have to inform you ) that authority Aka Srila Prabhupada ( or say mother in analogy ) is also the damn person and not an imagination.
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and wrong i dont care for what anyone ( or any random child ) else believe, and why any intelligent person will care for you ? who are you ? huh?
and what explanation your catholics has offered you beside faith, belief, personal experience or holy books quotes ? what you have got ? explain it and than talk.
for if i have to follow your catholic religion on the basics of these 4 things than why i should not follow all 3500 religions at the same time ?
and as far as we ( The Hare Krishnas ) goes so here is Practical explanation and it is the proof of our authority and there is nothing thoughtout the whole world which can challenge it.
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and it is very simply to understand the damn point which is written in very simply language at the top of this post as thread title.
and it is the damn purpose of human life. ( dull brain )
and if there is any fault in it that point it out and finish the business. and what is that fault anyways ? point it out. ( its an open challenge )