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ScratInTheHat wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 12:10 am
There are a lot of events and circumstances that get overshadowed by other parts of history. These overshadowed elements could have as much push as the events we consider major. The Great Famine that started in 1315 should have been a marked point in the history of Europe. It has become so overshadowed by the Great Plague that it is hardly remembered at all. It could have been a major reason that so many died during the Great Plague because they had been beaten down for years before by this later event. There are also perceptions of the life of times in history that do not hold up to the archaeological evidence. The Pax Romana is thought of as a time of great wealth for people within the Empire. Archaeological evidence from graves before and after the Roman Empire taking control of The British isles show that during Roman rule there was less prosperity not more. History is not this clean thing that most see it to be. Much of what we think happened didn’t happen in the way we have been taught.
The Black Death in the 1300s killed off half the population of England and led to the collapse of feudalism and massive wage rises among the common folks. I think that is more important than the Famine.

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https://www.state.gov/prc-national-peop ... gislation/

Dominoes are slowly starting to fall. Events will most likely speed up.

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Sun May 24, 2020 4:44 am
What if the Philippines joins China or South Korea surrenders?
Nope. Filipinos don't like China or the Chinese. They might sit out a war but they're not going to join with China.

Why would South Korea surrender?

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Guest wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:54 pm
Also, how long can the Indians and Chinese play games before ordinance starts flying:
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indian- ... es-2234082
Pakistan neutralizes India.
Pakistan is more of a distraction. Without Chinese support Pakistan would be lucky to survive a week without going nuclear while India has more nukes and better delivery systems.

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** 25-May-2020 World View: India-China border conflict in Ladakh

utahbob wrote: ↑
Sun May 24, 2020 10:38 pm
> Thank you John, it is a honor to serve our constitution and fellow
> citizens.
There's a lot of talk these days that Covid-19 has substantially
harmed operations in the US armed forces. Do your contacts have any
view on that subject?

John, the Wuhan/COVID-19 virus has impact the US military. From recruiting, training and maintaining the force the situation has changed, but the military as quickly adapted, due to its military mind set: Mission first. Yes, an aircraft carrier was temporarily made non-mission capable and the drama afterward was unfortunate, but America has a bad habit of promoting “good looking” or looking good on paper officers and NCOs. The US military is tasked to train and fight in chemical biological radiological and nuclear (CBRN) environment. Once the bullets start flying the “good looking” are killed off or relieved. It is not so bad since 9/11 has been a ‘finishing class” or “graduating exercise.” So in a way, the pandemic is an easy way to shake down the force. Yes, our potential advisories and allies were watching us, but the US is not taking it easy. Somebody has been drinking too much coffee when they came up with this CONOP and somebody in the national chain of command is definitely gun ho: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... -territory
And the Russians like to play too:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... iterranean

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Guest wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 9:27 am
ScratInTheHat wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 12:10 am
There are a lot of events and circumstances that get overshadowed by other parts of history. These overshadowed elements could have as much push as the events we consider major. The Great Famine that started in 1315 should have been a marked point in the history of Europe. It has become so overshadowed by the Great Plague that it is hardly remembered at all. It could have been a major reason that so many died during the Great Plague because they had been beaten down for years before by this later event. There are also perceptions of the life of times in history that do not hold up to the archaeological evidence. The Pax Romana is thought of as a time of great wealth for people within the Empire. Archaeological evidence from graves before and after the Roman Empire taking control of The British isles show that during Roman rule there was less prosperity not more. History is not this clean thing that most see it to be. Much of what we think happened didn’t happen in the way we have been taught.
The Black Death in the 1300s killed off half the population of England and led to the collapse of feudalism and massive wage rises among the common folks. I think that is more important than the Famine.
You missed the point of the post completely if you think I was just talking about magnitude.

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With large riots and police confrontations going on in both
Minneapolis and Hong Kong this evening, it's hard to decide which one
to watch on tv.

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ScratInTheHat wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 6:52 pm
Guest wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 9:27 am
ScratInTheHat wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 12:10 am
There are a lot of events and circumstances that get overshadowed by other parts of history. These overshadowed elements could have as much push as the events we consider major. The Great Famine that started in 1315 should have been a marked point in the history of Europe. It has become so overshadowed by the Great Plague that it is hardly remembered at all. It could have been a major reason that so many died during the Great Plague because they had been beaten down for years before by this later event. There are also perceptions of the life of times in history that do not hold up to the archaeological evidence. The Pax Romana is thought of as a time of great wealth for people within the Empire. Archaeological evidence from graves before and after the Roman Empire taking control of The British isles show that during Roman rule there was less prosperity not more. History is not this clean thing that most see it to be. Much of what we think happened didn’t happen in the way we have been taught.
The Black Death in the 1300s killed off half the population of England and led to the collapse of feudalism and massive wage rises among the common folks. I think that is more important than the Famine.
You missed the point of the post completely if you think I was just talking about magnitude.
No, I get it, but historical events are the results of other events. What you wrote wasn't new. And, yes, a lot of people know very little about history, but historians know quite a bit. Hollywood history is bad, but the average history book isn't. The agenda driven crowd twists history for their own purposes, but that has always happened.

Yes, history is a build up of events, and some events are "overshadowed", but it doesn't mean they are forgotten by historians. Archaeologists are always uncovering new information, but it doesn't mean that history had been purposely white washed before.
History is not this clean thing that most see it to be.
I've never met a historian that felt it was. The average person on the street these days might not have any interest in history, so he doesn't study it. That doesn't mean there has been a concerted effort to purposely distort it.

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28-May-20 World View -- US sanctions Hong Kong as activists protest 'March of the Volunteers'


Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou loses a battle in her extradition fight


** 28-May-20 World View -- US sanctions Hong Kong as activists protest 'March of the Volunteers'
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e200528




Contents:
US sanctions Hong Kong as activists protest 'March of the Volunteers'
Hundreds protest law forbidding abuse of 'March of the Volunteers'
Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou loses a battle in her extradition fight


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, China, Hong Kong, Mike Pompeo,
March of the Volunteers, Nie Er, Tian Han, Mao Zedong,
Paul Robeson, Deng Xiaoping, Glory to Hong Kong,
Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution, Tiananmen Square massacre,
Canada, Huawei, Meng Wanzhou, Sabrina Meng,
Michael Kovrig, Michael Spavor

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Guest wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 9:17 pm
ScratInTheHat wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 6:52 pm
Guest wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 9:27 am


The Black Death in the 1300s killed off half the population of England and led to the collapse of feudalism and massive wage rises among the common folks. I think that is more important than the Famine.
You missed the point of the post completely if you think I was just talking about magnitude.
No, I get it, but historical events are the results of other events. What you wrote wasn't new. And, yes, a lot of people know very little about history, but historians know quite a bit. Hollywood history is bad, but the average history book isn't. The agenda driven crowd twists history for their own purposes, but that has always happened.

Yes, history is a build up of events, and some events are "overshadowed", but it doesn't mean they are forgotten by historians. Archaeologists are always uncovering new information, but it doesn't mean that history had been purposely white washed before.
History is not this clean thing that most see it to be.
I've never met a historian that felt it was. The average person on the street these days might not have any interest in history, so he doesn't study it. That doesn't mean there has been a concerted effort to purposely distort it.
History is whitewashed all the time. It is written by whoever is in power at the time and for their benefit. It takes a few generations to shake out the trash if it ever does get removed. Then there is the injection of whoever is in power then.

Historians run in packs. Those packs have their dogmas. You have to read them all to get an idea of what really happened. That's mostly impossible since some things are just not known or can't be defined with certainty as one way or another. Archaeologists and Historians wind up at loggerheads all the time. When an Archaeologist finds a tomb in Egypt that should be from one dynasty but is built on top of a later dynasty does that change the history or create a loggerhead that lasts for years if it is ever resolved?

Of course there is a concerted effort to distort history! Just one example is the Tet offensive in 1968. It is still thought of as a loss for the US and the South when it was one of the biggest victories in the war. Walter Cronkite and the US media has the blood of every soldier killed after Tet on their hands. The North was close to going back to the peace talks until they saw how Tet was reported in the western press. Historians are never in agreement outside of the dogma they support and they fight tooth and nail to push the history they support.

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