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Of course there is a concerted effort to distort history! Just one example is the Tet offensive in 1968. It is still thought of as a loss for the US and the South when it was one of the biggest victories in the war.
Ah, NO. I graduated with a history degree from the Citadel, and I was taught that Tet was a victory for the US.( I took that course in the 1980s.) I have also read that Tet was an American victory in history books and have seen it declared a victory in documentaries on the Vietnam War. Militarily, it was a victory. How the media spun it is something else. The books I have read on it all point out the massive losses that the VC suffered. They didn't seemed to be swayed by the media.

No, history is not entirely a whitewash from the beginning. It's not. There are credible sources like Tacitus, for example.
History is whitewashed all the time. It is written by whoever is in power at the time and for their benefit. It takes a few generations to shake out the trash if it ever does get removed. Then there is the injection of whoever is in power then.
America is not Russia or China. Plenty of American history right honestly, even when it conflicts with the American government. You are ridiculous. Since America began there have been books published that were critical of the American government. And if governments do decide the history, why did the American government fail to do it during the Vietnam War?

And historians in other countries, even under brutal regimes, have still managed to record history correctly. You're being extreme. Is this what they taught you a SJW U?

You don't know what you are talking about.

How old are you?

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You gotta love historians. In South Vietnam we had a long string of victories and then the North won.

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Guest wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 1:38 am
Of course there is a concerted effort to distort history! Just one example is the Tet offensive in 1968. It is still thought of as a loss for the US and the South when it was one of the biggest victories in the war.
Ah, NO. I graduated with a history degree from the Citadel, and I was taught that Tet was a victory for the US.( I took that course in the 1980s.) I have also read that Tet was an American victory in history books and have seen it declared a victory in documentaries on the Vietnam War. Militarily, it was a victory. How the media spun it is something else. The books I have read on it all point out the massive losses that the VC suffered. They didn't seemed to be swayed by the media.

No, history is not entirely a whitewash from the beginning. It's not. There are credible sources like Tacitus, for example.
History is whitewashed all the time. It is written by whoever is in power at the time and for their benefit. It takes a few generations to shake out the trash if it ever does get removed. Then there is the injection of whoever is in power then.
America is not Russia or China. Plenty of American history right honestly, even when it conflicts with the American government. You are ridiculous. Since America began there have been books published that were critical of the American government. And if governments do decide the history, why did the American government fail to do it during the Vietnam War?

And historians in other countries, even under brutal regimes, have still managed to record history correctly. You're being extreme. Is this what they taught you a SJW U?

You don't know what you are talking about.

How old are you?
I'm in my 60s. Old enough to stop talking to someone who resorts to insinuations that an opponent in a discussion doesn't know what they are talking about when it should be obvious that is not the case. I like the age question. That just shows who you are not anything about me.

I used to be a believer. Keep that dogma alive! Sorry to have stepped on it. My bad.

http://www.viet-myths.net/buitin.htm

Q: Was the American antiwar movement important to Hanoi's victory?
A: It was essential to our strategy. Support of the war from our rear was completely secure while the American rear was vulnerable. Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda, and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war and that she would struggle along with us.

By the way. To consider anything I've posted as SJW is a really poor deduction on your part. I don't know that anything I've posted would ever fit into any SJW narrative. But when you start slinging elbows it all gets messy doesn't it.

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As for scrat in the hat: I would like to add my own two cents.

I grew up during the Vietnam war in a house full of war veterans going back to World War One. I have never heard Tet described as a communist victory. The US military won virtually ever battle. My understanding has always been that the war was hijacked by a vocal and violent minority made up of student radicals and societal drop-outs (hippies). The press was generally pessimistic about the war, but I don't remember "everyone" being anti-war. The loud mouths won.

The history books I have read on it agree with me. I don't know how someone in their 60s could come away from that period thinking this way. America was divided, but I don't remember it they way he/she does.

I also don't believe that historians always whitewash history to please governments. That's why the West was called "The Free World."

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By the way. To consider anything I've posted as SJW is a really poor deduction on your part. I don't know that anything I've posted would ever fit into any SJW narrative.
It was your self-righteous and conspiratorial tone that makes me believe you are as SJW type. Right wing or left wing, you are wrong.

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Gerald Celente says America is heading for a civil war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HaokwZGPjw

Londonistan

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Oh, how the golem turns.

RHD

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I live in a small village in NW London, we have a nice independent opticians that has recently opened which is run by a South African husband and wife team. Whilst having an eye consultation I asked why they had left sunny SA for rainy cold old Britain?

His reply was really quite chilling, He told me that they had lived in a lovely community near CT, their neighbours who were an elderly white couple had employed a black SA gardener for nearly thirty years and looked upon him as a trusted friend.

One afternoon on return from a trip to CT they found the police in attendance at their gated community, when asked what had happened they were told the gardener had been caught stealing from the house and when confronted he had shot the old man and then proceeded to rape his wife in front of her dying husband!

He could tell from the look on my face how shocked I was and he said "So you see that was the last straw for us, I would rather have the rain on my back in the UK than the sun on my grave in SA!

Same sort of behaviour underway in the USA.

A salutary lesson I think!

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No worries, mate. Rhodesia turned out just fine. As goes Rhodesia, so goes America. KARMA.

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A Warning For America - From South Africa

January, 2005
By Gemma Meyer (Gemma Meyer is the pseudonym of a South African journalist. She and her husband, a former conservative member of parliament, still reside in South Africa.)

People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay rights movement).

Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveal trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country.

America's structures are Western. Your Congress, your lobbying groups, your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved or ignore politics are peculiarly Western, not the way most of the world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to losing your Western character.

Writing letters to the press, manning stands at county fairs, hosting fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences, writing your Congressman - that is what you know, and what you are comfortable with. Those are the political methods you've created for yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political accountability.

But woe to you if - or more likely, when - the rules change. White Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to cope with the new rules of the game - violence, mob riots, intimidation through accusations of racism, demands for proportionality based on racial numbers, and all the other social and political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power from the haves - Americans, like others before them, will no doubt cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately their way of life.

That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was there and I saw it happen.

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