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DaKardii wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:57 pm
Ggf wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:02 pm
The Saudi royal family is made up of 5000 princes who do not get along. Many princes are pro West, some are not. You have a simplistic view of the KSA. and you are wrong.
Pro-West, my ass. Even the "pro-West" princes support using the radicals as tools to achieve their country's foreign policy goals.
So does America. Look at the people America baked in Syria and Iraq. We also backed warlords in Afghanistan that openly bragged of their war crimes. Americans are hypocrites. Spare me the self righteous indignation, Dakardi. It's Americans like you, ignorant and half cocked, that have allowed your insane government to destroy huge parts of the world.

You have the nerve to rant and rave and foam at the mouth and demand answers to questions that you don't understand yourself. You are just making noise. Useless noise.

The article you linked to shows America's recklessness in not caring where these weapons end up. It strains credulity to believe the US government took Saudi assurances seriously.

Grow up.

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:06 pm
Guest wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:03 am
America has destroyed Iraq, Afghanistan, and Palestine. Now karma is destroying America. Soon Americans will be refugees, selling their bodies, begging for food, and pimping their children. When the Muslims are forced to do this, you don't care. See how you like it because it is about to happen to you.
Why are the "guest" posts these days all so bad?

There is no such thing as Karma. America lost good leaders after Eisenhower and became a degenerate nation, worsening every decade after him. The hand wringers were there guiding it, the whole way.

Europe had already become that. They have beaten even America in their degeneracy and spurning the truth for materialism and the lies of socialism/communism. But what must come to pass must, that's why the time is getting late for repentance.
Guest posts are better than ever these days. There is such a thing as Karma and Karma is coming. Thank you Guests for your insightful posts.

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DaKardii wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:19 pm
Guest wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:50 pm
You don't know what you are talking about.
You wanna explain this, then?

Why is Saudi Arabia continuing to arm al-Qaeda even when the so-called "reformer prince" MBS is in power?

https://www.cato.org/commentary/arms-sa ... ican-lives
This article is three years old and shows the bad choices made by the American govt going back to the Obama Admin. Yes, we supply weapons for billions of dollars and we don't care if our enemies end up with them. Look at the boondoggle in Afghanistan. How many billions in shiny new weapons and combat drones did we leave our deadly enemies there? MBS is small potatoes compared to what our own Presidents have been/are doing.

Did you even read that article?

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Guest wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:22 am
You know nothing of KSA. Absolutely nothing.

Simple answer: MBS is only one of many princes. He tortured other princes (his relatives) to get money out them. (But, no doubt, you know all about that...) MBS does not represent everyone in KSA. You don't understand the situation in Yemen either.

Of note: Being obnoxious does not make you right.
Let me get this straight.

You're saying that MBS doesn't represent the entire Saudi government. And you're implying (from that statement) that MBS can't control the radicalism that comes from the other princes, so he has no choice but to tolerate them and their antics.

Even if that premise is true (and I don't believe it is), what you say only proves my point. Saudi Arabia cannot be trusted, and while it pretends to be America's ally is in fact one of America's greatest enemies.

Meanwhile, I understand the situation in Yemen very well. But that's irrelevant. Because even if I didn't, I'd still be rooting against Saudi Arabia. Why? Because Saudi Arabia attacked us on 9/11, by proxy. And not only has it not compensated us for 9/11, but twenty years later it is still attacking America and much of the rest of the world through its proxies. All the while, it has and still is blackmailing out politicians into attacking the wrong countries in retaliation for its own crimes. In many ways, the KSA is a Middle Eastern equivalent to the CCP. And I say we ought to treat it the same way we ought to treat the CCP.
Guest one wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:51 am
So does America. Look at the people America baked in Syria and Iraq. We also backed warlords in Afghanistan that openly bragged of their war crimes. Americans are hypocrites. Spare me the self righteous indignation, Dakardi. It's Americans like you, ignorant and half cocked, that have allowed your insane government to destroy huge parts of the world.

You have the nerve to rant and rave and foam at the mouth and demand answers to questions that you don't understand yourself. You are just making noise. Useless noise.

The article you linked to shows America's recklessness in not caring where these weapons end up. It strains credulity to believe the US government took Saudi assurances seriously.

Grow up.

Welcome to Realpolitik
You're absolutely correct about America's role in the post-9/11 destruction of the Middle East, as well as the ignorance demonstrated by many Americans regarding that role.

But my generation is hardly to blame. We were kids when this catastrophe began.

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guest wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:30 am
This article is three years old and shows the bad choices made by the American govt going back to the Obama Admin. Yes, we supply weapons for billions of dollars and we don't care if our enemies end up with them. Look at the boondoggle in Afghanistan. How many billions in shiny new weapons and combat drones did we leave our deadly enemies there? MBS is small potatoes compared to what our own Presidents have been/are doing.

Did you even read that article?
Our own Presidents are doing what they're doing because people like MBS are twisting their arms through the petrodollar. So, people like MBS bear responsibility for all of it.

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DaKardii wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:40 am
Guest wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:22 am
You know nothing of KSA. Absolutely nothing.

Simple answer: MBS is only one of many princes. He tortured other princes (his relatives) to get money out them. (But, no doubt, you know all about that...) MBS does not represent everyone in KSA. You don't understand the situation in Yemen either.

Of note: Being obnoxious does not make you right.
Let me get this straight.

You're saying that MBS doesn't represent the entire Saudi government. And you're implying (from that statement) that MBS can't control the radicalism that comes from the other princes, so he has no choice but to tolerate them and their antics.

Even if that premise is true (and I don't believe it is), what you say only proves my point. Saudi Arabia cannot be trusted, and while it pretends to be America's ally is in fact one of America's greatest enemies.

Meanwhile, I understand the situation in Yemen very well. But that's irrelevant. Because even if I didn't, I'd still be rooting against Saudi Arabia. Why? Because Saudi Arabia attacked us on 9/11, by proxy. And not only has it not compensated us for 9/11, but twenty years later it is still attacking America and much of the rest of the world through its proxies. All the while, it has and still is blackmailing out politicians into attacking the wrong countries in retaliation for its own crimes. In many ways, the KSA is a Middle Eastern equivalent to the CCP. And I say we ought to treat it the same way we ought to treat the CCP.
Guest one wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:51 am
So does America. Look at the people America baked in Syria and Iraq. We also backed warlords in Afghanistan that openly bragged of their war crimes. Americans are hypocrites. Spare me the self righteous indignation, Dakardi. It's Americans like you, ignorant and half cocked, that have allowed your insane government to destroy huge parts of the world.

You have the nerve to rant and rave and foam at the mouth and demand answers to questions that you don't understand yourself. You are just making noise. Useless noise.

The article you linked to shows America's recklessness in not caring where these weapons end up. It strains credulity to believe the US government took Saudi assurances seriously.

Grow up.

Welcome to Realpolitik
You're absolutely correct about America's role in the post-9/11 destruction of the Middle East, as well as the ignorance demonstrated by many Americans regarding that role.

But my generation is hardly to blame. We were kids when this catastrophe began.
Talking with you is like reinventing the wheel.

Ghjdjd

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DaKardii wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:42 am
guest wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:30 am
This article is three years old and shows the bad choices made by the American govt going back to the Obama Admin. Yes, we supply weapons for billions of dollars and we don't care if our enemies end up with them. Look at the boondoggle in Afghanistan. How many billions in shiny new weapons and combat drones did we leave our deadly enemies there? MBS is small potatoes compared to what our own Presidents have been/are doing.

Did you even read that article?
Our own Presidents are doing what they're doing because people like MBS are twisting their arms through the petrodollar. So, people like MBS bear responsibility for all of it.
MBS is not twisting our arm. We are making money off of him.

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DaKardii wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:26 am
Another guest wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:01 pm
What pat Buchanan was refrerring to was America's involvement in the Middle East BEFORE 9/11. i realize you are only 19 or so, but there was American involvement in the ME for decades before 2001.
BTW, did 3000 American dead justify the mass slaughter of innocent civilians in Afghanistan? How about Iraq? How many millions died? How many were tortured?

You are losing...

You are a walking stereotype of why most of the world hates us. And they do hate us. Before 2001, America was popular in most of the world. It was the Western Europeans that bad mouthed us. Now, almost everyone does.
Since you didn't bother to answer a simple question and instead resorted to mockery, I'll assume that you DO believe we deserved 9/11. Frankly, I find such a position to be absolutely vile, especially from a supposed "fellow American."

By the way, while we definitely did interfere in the Middle East prior to 9/11, you know what was bin Laden's chief grievance against us? That's right, the presence of American troops in Saudi Arabia! Bin Laden didn't care that our troops were confined to bases and not bothering anybody; he saw our troop presence to be an act of war regardless because our troops were "infidels in a holy land." So like the sick monster he was, bin Laden thought the appropriate response was to have people hijack planes and fly them into skyscrapers on our own soil!

Tell me. Do you agree with him on that? Do you agree that THAT was the appropriate response?

And ironically, it was the TREACHEROUS House of Saud, the same people who told us we could set up bases in their country, who bankrolled 9/11. Because they saw bin Laden as a useful idiot. They figured that he could rile us up into wanting to tear the whole region to pieces, while they manipulate us into taking out our anger on the wrong countries, who also happen to be enemies of Saudi Arabia. It is because of this manipulative behavior that I consider Saudi Arabia to be just as, if not an even bigger enemy than the CCP.
9/11 was an inside job.
Psalm 34:4 - “I sought the Lord, and he answered me and delivered me from all my fears.”

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thomasglee wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:53 am
DaKardii wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:26 am
Another guest wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:01 pm
What pat Buchanan was refrerring to was America's involvement in the Middle East BEFORE 9/11. i realize you are only 19 or so, but there was American involvement in the ME for decades before 2001.
BTW, did 3000 American dead justify the mass slaughter of innocent civilians in Afghanistan? How about Iraq? How many millions died? How many were tortured?

You are losing...

You are a walking stereotype of why most of the world hates us. And they do hate us. Before 2001, America was popular in most of the world. It was the Western Europeans that bad mouthed us. Now, almost everyone does.
Since you didn't bother to answer a simple question and instead resorted to mockery, I'll assume that you DO believe we deserved 9/11. Frankly, I find such a position to be absolutely vile, especially from a supposed "fellow American."

By the way, while we definitely did interfere in the Middle East prior to 9/11, you know what was bin Laden's chief grievance against us? That's right, the presence of American troops in Saudi Arabia! Bin Laden didn't care that our troops were confined to bases and not bothering anybody; he saw our troop presence to be an act of war regardless because our troops were "infidels in a holy land." So like the sick monster he was, bin Laden thought the appropriate response was to have people hijack planes and fly them into skyscrapers on our own soil!

Tell me. Do you agree with him on that? Do you agree that THAT was the appropriate response?

And ironically, it was the TREACHEROUS House of Saud, the same people who told us we could set up bases in their country, who bankrolled 9/11. Because they saw bin Laden as a useful idiot. They figured that he could rile us up into wanting to tear the whole region to pieces, while they manipulate us into taking out our anger on the wrong countries, who also happen to be enemies of Saudi Arabia. It is because of this manipulative behavior that I consider Saudi Arabia to be just as, if not an even bigger enemy than the CCP.
9/11 was an inside job.
GW Bush did it?

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** 14-Sep-2021 World View: Interrogating Antony Blinken

I watched the Senate hearings today interrogating Secretary of State
Antony Blinken.

Blinken was always smooth and oily, lying freely and effortlessly at
every turn.

The Republicans were highly critical of Blinken, and accused him and
the Biden administration of botching the evacuation and lying
constantly about it, with the surrender of Bagram airbase being the
worst mistake.

The Democrats were also highly critical of Blinken, but they put it
into the context of the last 20 years, saying that every
administration has lied to the American people, including Trump, who
signed the surrender agreement with the Taliban in February 2020.

I'm just numb watching this whole thing. I've repeatedly described
the Afghanistan war effort as farcical, starting with Obama's "surge"
in 2009. I described how each action by the Obama and Trump
administrations, including the February 2020 agreement, was based on
fantasy and farce.

The Chairman Senator Menendez (D-NJ) said that we have to get to the
bottom of what happened, so that we won't make the same mistakes.
That statement was just another fantasy and farce. The Biden
administration is probably already planning its next catastrophe.

** 23-Aug-21 World View -- The Afghanistan catastrophe
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e210823



** 7-Sep-21 World View -- Taliban declares total victory in Afghanistan
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e210907

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