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by **gerald** » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:09 pm

Military Times Survey: 75% of Troops Oppose Strikes On Syria http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-1 ... ikes-syria

by **at99sy** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:37 am

John wrote:
at99sy wrote:
John wrote:
You seem to be pretty certain what will happen if the U.S. takes
military action in Syria.

What do you think will happen if the U.S. does NOT take military
action in Syria?
I am confident that if the US doe not interfere with Syria very little escalation, if any, will occur.
Like I say, containment is key.

Syria is being attacked by the same ideology that attacked us on 9-11-01.

sy
Wishful thinking may be all that is left to do at this point. Escalation has only been internal with Syria. Outsiders are flocking to the region to increase the severity yes, However, as long as it is contained to Syria it will limit the damage. If and when it spills into other regions it is going to take on a life of its own.

sy

Just saying you're confident doesn't really answer the question.
There has been continuous escalation for 2 1/2 years. I would expect
that trend to continue. What reason do you have for assuming that
this trend will not continue? Just saying you're "confident" sounds
like a whole lot of wishful thinking to me.

by **John** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:13 pm

at99sy wrote:
John wrote:
You seem to be pretty certain what will happen if the U.S. takes
military action in Syria.

What do you think will happen if the U.S. does NOT take military
action in Syria?
I am confident that if the US doe not interfere with Syria very little escalation, if any, will occur.
Like I say, containment is key.

Syria is being attacked by the same ideology that attacked us on 9-11-01.

sy

Just saying you're confident doesn't really answer the question.
There has been continuous escalation for 2 1/2 years. I would expect
that trend to continue. What reason do you have for assuming that
this trend will not continue? Just saying you're "confident" sounds
like a whole lot of wishful thinking to me.

by **at99sy** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:08 pm

John wrote:
You seem to be pretty certain what will happen if the U.S. takes
military action in Syria.

What do you think will happen if the U.S. does NOT take military
action in Syria?

I am confident that if the US doe not interfere with Syria very little escalation, if any, will occur.
Like I say, containment is key.

Syria is being attacked by the same ideology that attacked us on 9-11-01.

sy

by **gerald** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:12 pm

indyjonesouthere wrote:I suspect that reading Diana Wests latest book might help people formulate what is happening. It seems we are replacing the favored choice of FDR which was the communist collective for the new favored path of the muslim collective promoted by Obama, Hillary and Kerry. FDR had dozens of communist spys in his administration all of whom helped direct actions favorable to Stalin and his gang. They continued in service to the communists even after FDR was gone. And we have had the lament of "peaceful islam" and the inability to confront islam since Bill Clintons administration. Syria is the least of our muslim problem, at least they are killing jihadis of the muslim kind rather than Christians and Jews. We had better have plans for the bombing of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan before we even consider Syria. Obama is linking us up to the wrong side just as FDR linked us to the wrong side. Who killed more people, Hitler or Stalin?

agree and now this --

Syria Welcomes, Would Comply With Russian Chemical Weapon Disarmament Initiative http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-0 ... initiative

"What angle will Kerry, and certainly Obama in his national address, use now to justify further military preparation, is largely unknown. Expect even bigger and more spectacular false flags in the coming days, all of which will be caught contemporaneously on Evidence A, a/k/a YouTube."

Looks like Russia is doing the US population a favor.

----------------------------------------------------------

If John is right about the coming "great war", Putin may be thinking ahead, once "O" is out of office, Russia may need the support of the US people against China.
Side note --in numerous comments by people on other sites, apparently by Americans, I have seen the comment that Putin seems to be the only major leader with a cool head. --- interesting

by **indyjonesouthere** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:33 am

I suspect that reading Diana Wests latest book might help people formulate what is happening. It seems we are replacing the favored choice of FDR which was the communist collective for the new favored path of the muslim collective promoted by Obama, Hillary and Kerry. FDR had dozens of communist spys in his administration all of whom helped direct actions favorable to Stalin and his gang. They continued in service to the communists even after FDR was gone. And we have had the lament of "peaceful islam" and the inability to confront islam since Bill Clintons administration. Syria is the least of our muslim problem, at least they are killing jihadis of the muslim kind rather than Christians and Jews. We had better have plans for the bombing of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan before we even consider Syria. Obama is linking us up to the wrong side just as FDR linked us to the wrong side. Who killed more people, Hitler or Stalin?

by **gerald** » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:04 pm

at99sy wrote:
cheers and happy early winter from New England. So much for the global warming promise. I want a REFUND!
sy

A chilly Arctic summer has left nearly a million more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same time last year – an increase of 60 per cent.

Some eminent scientists now believe the world is heading for a period of cooling that will not end until the middle of this century – a process that would expose computer forecasts of imminent catastrophic warming as dangerously misleading.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tions.html

And we are just suppose to believe the leaders? and not check the data? -- yea right

by **gerald** » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:36 pm

John,
There is no good or bad but, We appear to be backing the greater of evils.
Many times a forest fire has to be fought with fire and not water. To know when is the issue.

by **John** » Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:01 pm

at99sy wrote: > John will keep making comparisons to appeasement but I continue to
> say the analogy is merely superficial. We need to contain Syria
> not appease. It is in the escalation that there is the greatest
> danger and if Assad falls there WILL be escalation. Russia will
> not stand by and let Syria be taken over by terrorists who would
> have access to all of Syria's and potentially all of Iraq's WMD's
> that disappeared before our ground war began.

> When you try to give comfort and aid to rabid feral dogs you will
> get ravaged by them. Assad is killing his own people? Who are
> "his" people? I see a civil war with civilians being caught in the
> crossfire. Unfortunate without question and I would not trade
> places with any of them. I would not go myself to try to help
> them, nor would I send my or anyone else's sons to be killed to
> attempt to help at this time. This will run it's course no matter
> what now. The fuse cannot be unlit.

You seem to be pretty certain what will happen if the U.S. takes
military action in Syria.

What do you think will happen if the U.S. does NOT take military
action in Syria?

by **John** » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:44 pm

utahbob wrote: > Yes, America will defend Israel. We have in the past and will
> again. Plans are in place and operational.

> http://www.idfblog.com/2012/11/14/concl ... llenge-12/

> http://www.eucom.mil/key-activities/exe ... lenge-2012

> This is one small part of American and Israeli partnership. It
> also involves other countries too.

> http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/201 ... 369726380/

This shows that we've made preparations to defend Israel, but it
doesn't show that we would, in fact, defend Israel (or Japan or the
Philippines or Britain or Europe or Taiwan).

If the attack were such that the President felt that he could go to
war immediately, without asking Congress, then we would defend Israel,
.... But if the circumstances of the attack were such that the
President felt obligated to ask Congress, then it's arguable that we
would NOT defend Israel, despite any treaties or preparations.

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