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[quote="Weiseth"]

The general attitude is that the political elite are out of sync with the general population about immigration, left wing parties do well because they promise and deliver welfare which is the old success story of bread and circus. But right-wing parties are winning across Europe only to have the political elite take a political left once in power (I.e David Cameron).

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1984 Orwell here we come. --- UK PM David Cameron Proclaims: It’s Not Enough To Follow The Law, You Must Love Big Brother --
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-15/uk-pm-david-cameron-proclaims-it%E2%80%99s-not-enough-follow-law-you-must-love-big-brother.

" For too long we have been a passivity tolerant society, saying to our citizens; as long as you obey the law we will leave you alone:
David Cameron Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

[quote="Weiseth"]
> Since so many of the foreign fighters in IS are from Europe does
> this mean Europe is headed for a generational crisis war very
> soon?

> The general attitude is that the political elite are out of sync
> with the general population about immigration, left wing parties
> do well because they promise and deliver welfare which is the old
> success story of bread and circus. But right-wing parties are
> winning across Europe only to have the political elite take a
> political left once in power (I.e David Cameron).

> If generational crisis wars is inevitable and the warring factions
> generally between different ethnic groups, social classes or
> political groups are circumstantial then it seems to me from
> reading your weblog that the current immigration into Europe is a
> war of survival between ethnic groups reminiscent of post-Rome era
> of the Migration Period in Europe. Because from what I understand
> of Generational Dynamics ethnic differences do not really matter
> as Homo-Sapiens all over the world are subject to the same trends
> and behavior between generations so the ethnic wars in Africa will
> come back to Europe.

> Economist Nial Ferguson demonstrated in his book "War of the
> World" that WW1-WW2 even though started political degenerated into
> race-ethnic focused[i](or perhaps always was unconsciously)[/i]
> even excluding the Nazis as all parties came to view the enemy
> ethnic groups as i.e rats/vermin with the primeval motivation of
> slaughtering the men and raping the women. With the current ethnic
> animosity in Europe what will be the "trigger" for this to happen
> again? Or will the coming war between China and USA refocus this
> generational crisis war into a global conflict instead of a ethnic
> civil war?[/quote]

You've made a very good analysis, but you need to factor in one
additional point: As I say all the time, it's not politicians who make
the major political decisions; it's the population, entire generations
of people. So whether the winning party is right-wing or left-wing is
going to make no difference in outcome. I went into this at length a
few days ago discussing Obama's string of policy failures.

This same factor explains Nial Ferguson's point that world wars
degenerate into being race-ethnic focused. That's the difference
between a non-crisis war, which comes from the politicians, and a
crisis war, which comes from the people. During a crisis war, raw
emotions dictate.

Since so many of the foreign fighters in IS are from Europe does this mean Europe is headed for a generational crisis war very soon?

The general attitude is that the political elite are out of sync with the general population about immigration, left wing parties do well because they promise and deliver welfare which is the old success story of bread and circus. But right-wing parties are winning across Europe only to have the political elite take a political left once in power (I.e David Cameron).

If generational crisis wars is inevitable and the warring factions generally between different ethnic groups, social classes or political groups are circumstantial then it seems to me from reading your weblog that the current immigration into Europe is a war of survival between ethnic groups reminiscent of post-Rome era of the Migration Period in Europe. Because from what I understand of Generational Dynamics ethnic differences do not really matter as Homo-Sapiens all over the world are subject to the same trends and behavior between generations so the ethnic wars in Africa will come back to Europe.

Economist Nial Ferguson demonstrated in his book "War of the World" that WW1-WW2 even though started political degenerated into race-ethnic focused[i](or perhaps always was unconsciously)[/i] even excluding the Nazis as all parties came to view the enemy ethnic groups as i.e rats/vermin with the primeval motivation of slaughtering the men and raping the women. With the current ethnic animosity in Europe what will be the "trigger" for this to happen again? Or will the coming war between China and USA refocus this generational crisis war into a global conflict instead of a ethnic civil war?

13-May-15 World View -- Iran forces Afghans to fight in Syrian regime's collapsing army

Greece makes debt payment as even leftists lose sympathy

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Contents:
Iran forces Afghans to fight in Syrian regime's collapsing army
Debate over the number of European jihadists in Syria
Greece makes debt payment as even leftists lose sympathy


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Hazaras,
Bashar al-Assad, Lashkar-e Jhangvi, LeJ, Jundullah, Taliban,
Islamic State / of Iraq and Syria/Sham/the Levant, IS, ISIS, ISIL, Daesh,
Jabhat al-Nusra, al-Nusra Front, European Union, Vera Jourová,
Greece, Alexis Tsipras, International Monetary Fund, IMF,
Jean-Claude Jüncker, François Hollande, New Democracy, Antonis Samaras