Cool Breeze wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:13 pm
You actually are the dense one. You don't understand that you yourself do not employ principles at all, you employ
grievances. Yet you think you are more principled because you don't deal in reality, but you think yourself a good person - as do all lefties - because you have some vague awareness that xyz might be fair or unfair. Again,
you define what those mean and they have nothing to do with truth or principle. That's the point. You actually
aren't principled, because the first principle is truth.
John and I believe in holding people to the same standards. You don't. If someone doesn't achieve, you don't hold them to a standard, you summarily suggest that power structures stop them from achieving, which is a neo-marxist view, it is all centered on power struggles, NOT truth.
You would never choose an African civilization over a European one to live in, because they are less advanced and less prosperous. This is what makes you the ultimate hypocrite, like all lefties. They ask of others what they never do themselves. They believe in nothing and hate the God-man, precisely because he is King of Kings and he did exactly what they will never do - live his life according to truth and only ask others to do what HE HIMSELF did.
You are the son of another, the ruler of this world, which means you are of lies. The good news is that you can repent. The sad news is that likely, you won't.
What is the difference between a grievance and a principle? Let’s go with my arrow of progress to provide examples: equality, democracy, human rights and rule of law. The grievance is that the ruling classes do not treat people equally. The principle is that all men should be treated equally. The grievance is that the leaders are not chosen democratically, one man one vote. The principle would be that all are allowed to vote easily. The grievance is that all men do not have the same rights. The principle is that the same rights should be applied to all. The grievance is that the same laws do not apply to all equally, that minorities are more likely to be searched and murdered. The principle is that the laws should be uniformly applied to all.
So I for one agree that there are grievances, but would disagree that each of these grievances cannot be expressed as a principle. One principle, equality, holds that all should be treated the same.
I agree that too much of the time not all are treated equally by those seeking to hold on to privilege. I agree there is a power struggle between privilege and equality. That is one of many truths. Not all cultures have achieved as much in this struggle. There are many cultures where autocracy and privilege hold much more sway. Like most, given a choice I would live where democracy and equality have more sway. The hypocrisy is in choosing to live in a culture which strives for human rights, democracy, equality and rule of law while advocating groups that deprive rights, exclude people from voting, treat minorities as inferior, and act criminally. I have lived and advocated none such.
Repent? The nuns taught the parable of the good Samaritan. [understatement] At the time of Christ, Samaritans and Jews did not get along. [/understatement]. Think of their relationship as representing tribal thinking in action. Superiority. Prejudice. Oppression. The point of the parable is that you are supposed to treat all equally and well. The early church that was closer to Christ was thus into charity, a thing the Romans were not big into. In fact, that was much of why the church was integrated into Roman culture. Tribal Thinking got them an empire, but they grew into a place where they needed to build what today is the equivalent of a welfare system. The elites needed to satisfy the poor underprivileged classes. Thus Christianity, charity and helping your fellow man, was added to the Roman system. One can observe that this was about when the empire began to fade, but it was an element they needed to build on.
Hypocrisy? How about claiming an affiliation with Christ while not embracing the principles of equality and charity? In embracing prejudice, criminality, privilege and Christ together, you are in no position to accuse others of hypocrisy.