Criticism of Generational Dynamics

[John]

** 17-Jun-2021 World View: Democrat Party trolls

> A cop shot a criminal in the process of committing a
> crime. Another cop was assaulted with bear spray, which is not
> authorized for use on humans, as if assaulting cops doing their
> job is ok. This clearly indicates John and other members of this
> site are against rule of law?

This is why it's a waste of time to talk to you and other Democrats.
You are totally ignorant about anything going on, because your
Democrat masters heavily censor the news that you're allowed to know
about.

A couple of months ago, I mentioned the southern border crisis, and
you said that it was "imaginary." You had no idea what was going on,
so you lied. Today you would probably like to claim you never said
that, which is why I say that people like you lie about what's going
on, and then lie about your lies.

The real farce was Mayorkas who claimed every day that "the border is
closed," while Fox News was showing clip after clip of people pouring
across the border. Mayorkas is typical of Democrats, most of whom are
total assholes.

So now you're claiming that a capitol cop was assaulted by bear spray.
That's a lie that the Democrats pushed for months, until an April
court session when the Democrats had to admit that bear spray was
never used, and that officer Brian Sicknick had died of natural causes
a day later, after suffering two strokes.

That's the problem. The Democrats are all jackasses who lie about
what happens and then lie about their lies, so that you can be a
worthless troll and lie along with them.

Next, you claim that "a cop shot a criminal in the process of
committing a crime." Really, how do you know that? You simply made
that up and lied about it, just like every jackass Democrat.

No one, not even the capitol police, has accused Ashli Babbitt of
having committed any crime whatsoever, except of course the "crime" of
being a Trump supporter, which I guess is enough for you to say that
she deserved to be shot dead.

All we know is that Ashli Babbitt was a veteran and she was peacefully
protesting. She was inside the Capitol building because the Capitol
police had opened the doors and invited many of the protesters to come
in. This is standard. It is not a crime to be inside the Capitol
building.

The Capitol police are stonewalling what happened. They're refusing
to release the name of the Capitol officer who shot her dead. They're
refusing to release any details of what happened. They are known to
have video of what happened, but they're refusing to release that.
The obvious implication is that the Democrats are responsible.

But none of that bothers you. You're completely ignorant of anything
that's going on. What you "want" is for the murder of Ashli Babbitt
to be justified, so you make up "facts" and lie about them. Later,
you'll change your mind and lie about your lies.

Like all other jackass Democrats, you're just a worthless troll.

[John]

** 17-Jun-2021 World View: The murder of Ashli Babbit

> ... The only person killed on January 6 was Ashli Babbitt, by a
> capitol policeman, a murder that the Democrats are covering up.
> But the leftist trolls will never correct...

> Setting aside the obvious point, let me make another. You are in
> your home and a screaming mob descends on your house and beats a
> hole through the door. The mob decides to enter your home, and
> the first person in the mob begins to climb in. Are you adequately
> threatened to use deadly force to defend yourself and your family?
> If not, why not?

See my answer to Butler above. You don't have the vaguest clue
what's going on, because all you know is the heavily censored
information that the Democrats and their trolls want you to know.

[John]

** 17-Jun-2021 World View: The White Supremacist-In-Chief

> Putin is ex-KGB. "Are you still lynching negroes?"

Oh, did Putin really ask that question? Well, good for him, because
it's true.

The Democrats are lynching hundreds of negroes every weekend in
Chicago, Baltimore, and other Democrat-run cities.

A century ago, Democrats like yourself were happily cheering the Tulsa
massacre and other massacres and lynchings of blacks.

Today, Democrats are happily cheering massacres of blacks in
Democrat-run cities. This is intentional Democrat Party policy, the
intended outcome from defunding police, not arresting violent
criminals, letting violent criminals out of jail, keeping the police
from making gun checks, and so forth. These are Democrat Party
policies with the intention of effectively restoring the KKK, with its
mass slaughter and lynchings through gunfire.

Joe Biden, of course, and his beloved mentor Robert Byrd, were
cheering about these slaughters and lynchings when he was young.
Biden is on the record making extremely hate-filled racist remarks as
late as 2007, just before Obama nominated him as vice-president. And
with the recent release of Hunter's hate-filled racist tweets, we know
that Joe Biden is the "White Supremacist in Chief in America," ready
to adopt any new policy that will speed up the lynchings and rapes of
blacks.

So, kudos to Putin for asking the right question.

[Bob Butler]

What is a lie? When are you justified in calling someone a liar?

A few recent political examples.

Biden called the border closed. I would interpret it as legal crossing of the border being closed. Fox and John think videos showing people crossing the border prove the statement false and justify calling people liars. Obviously, there are two definitions of closed here. Not every Democrat has repeated Biden in calling the border closed. I don’t think I am one of them. It is not as if the wall was built and patrolled the last few months. Immigration is a complex issue and I have avoided taking a position on it.

So am I a liar? Is there evidence of all Democrats being liars here? Switching definitions and not caring who actually takes what positions doesn’t matter? Does one properly throw the world liar around if a person has told no lie? Is the accusation of liar if there has been no lie a lie?

The Big Lie. There has been no evidence presented. Better than 50 to 1 in court cases has gone against it. As lawyers can be disbarred for lying to a judge, there is a big gap between what Trump says to his followers and what the lawyers say to judges. No accident. As Dominion has started lawsuits against the Big Liars, most defendants have disavowed the Big Lie loudly and firmly. There is no one that I know of using the ‘I am telling the truth and here is the evidence’ defense. That means they apparently slandered and lied without evidence.

I know a lot of Trump followers either really do believe the Big Lie, or being more enamored of racism than democracy pretend to believe it. Are you a liar if you sincerely insist on your beliefs? Damn the evidence, full speed ahead?

The Capital Insurrection shooting. Were there crimes committed? Was there trespass? Was there property such as windows destroyed? Were deadly threats made? At the time of the shooting event, was there property destroyed, trespassing occurring and violent insurrectionist assaulting outnumbered police?

While Fox was showing the border, MSNBC was showing a video of the shooting event. News organizations do emphasize events that support their agendas. This isn’t quite a lie, but if you limit how you get your news you are depriving yourself the evidence as to what happened. Does ignorance of the evidence mean giving opinion without making yourself aware that your opinion is false a lie?

Now all this makes me reluctant to jump up and down and cry ‘liar liar pants on fire’. It has made me highly dubious of John who has shown no such restraint. At some point you must care more about looking at the evidence than maximizing one’s ideological propaganda. The more you lie, the less your word becomes worth. John’s word has become worth nothing.

[Bob Butler]

Putin is ex-KGB. "Are you still lynching negroes?"

Oh, did Putin really ask that question? Well, good for him, because it's true.

Of course, for a loose definition of lynching, we are. The bad cops are more likely to use a knee to the neck than a noose, but it is still happening. The Republicans are doing what they can to make sure it will still happen.

Again, you are ignoring actual history. The rural racist faction lynched then and now. The abolitionists of the 18th Century would not be with the KKK now. If you value your reputation for research, you really ought to put truth ahead of propaganda.

It is no accident that a bunch of racist organizations waving Trump flags were trying to keep a racist in power. Claiming the reverse will not win you folks that are not racist already.

[John]

** 17-Jun-2021 World View: Alinsky crap

Typical Alinsky crap. You and Brower are the same.

Democrats are committing horrific "Tulsa massacres" of blacks every
weekend, and you post made up ridiculous nonsense about Trump flags --
which has nothing to do with the weekly "Tulsa massacres" that you and
other White Supremacist Democrats are supporting and cheering.

As for the "Big Lie," there are vote audits going on in Arizona and
other states, much to the horror of the Democrats. Within a few
months we should have some answers about who is lying.

[Bob Butler]

Wiki has from dozens to hundreds killed in the Tulsa massacre. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre Can you show convincing evidence of similar numbers being killed every weekend in race riots? Can you show evidence of support for these non happening events? To me, it is just you being a liar again. You ought to start treating fact as more important than ideological propaganda.

The Trump flags being waved around by the January 6 insurrectionists are clearly visible in the videos of the event. If you did any amount of research, you would be well aware of it. Instead, you choose to remain ignorant of the evidence. If your ideological bias is so blatantly clear here, how can anyone trust your other supposedly researched pontifications?

There is already evidence of the Big Lie. Do you really think a bunch of highly partisan conspiracy theory advocates with abundant opportunities to tamper with the evidence are going to change anything? The professional auditors have already spoken.

You just provide more and more evidence that you are a liar.

[John]

** 18-Jun-2021 World View: Hey Jackass!

See the following:

https://heyjackass.com/

• Weekends in Chicago

[Bob Butler]

Not race riots, but showing all homicides. No evidence of Democratic support. I won't argue that we don't have gun and drug problems, but you did not address your clams at all.

[John]

** 18-Jun-2021 World View: White Supremacist Jackass Butler

> Not race riots, but showing all homicides. No evidence of
> Democratic support. I won't argue that we don't have gun and drug
> problems, but you did not address your clams at all.

I didn't say "race riots." I said massacre of blacks, an intentional
consequence of Democrat policies -- destroying the black family,
defunding police, not arresting violent criminals, letting violent
criminals out of jail, keeping the police from making gun checks,
allowing huge amounts of fentynal and meth into the courtry, and so
forth. These are Democrat Party policies with the intention of
effectively restoring the KKK in another way, with its mass slaughter
and lynchings through gunfire.

"Race riots" were the methodology a century ago. Today the
methodology is policies that provoke massacres by means of mass
shootings. Either way, there's only one objective: massacres of as
many blacks as possible.

The violent fascist White Supremacist Democrats, including Joe Biden,
really don't care HOW blacks get massacred, then or now, race riots or
mass shootings, just as long as the job gets done. And since you're a
White Supremacist yourself, I'm sure you agree.

**** NBCNews(06/18/2021): 5 wounded in Chicago shooting hours after mass shooting kills 4

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/5- ... 4-n1271057

5 wounded in Chicago shooting hours after mass shooting kills 4
June 16, 2021, 7:20 PM UTC

Five people were wounded in a shooting in Chicago on Tuesday night,
hours after another mass shooting in the city that killed four and
injured four more.

Four men and one woman were shot near the 3800 block of West Monroe
Street around 9:20 p.m. CT, possibly by multiple offenders, police
said. There are currently no cooperating witnesses and no arrests have
been made. ...

The incident followed the earlier mass shooting in which three women
and one man were fatally shot and four more were injured. In that
incident, shots were fired around 5:45 a.m. CT Tuesday after an
argument escalated inside a residence in Chicago’s Englewood
neighborhood.

No arrests have been made in connection with that shooting, according
to Chicago Police Superintendent David Brown.

At a press conference, Mayor Lori Lightfoot called the mass shooting
“a tragedy that’s ripped apart families and inflicted intense trauma
on several individuals,” adding that the city still has work to do to
curb gun violence and limit access to illegal guns. ...

A recent surge in shootings in Chicago has sparked fears of a violent
summer after three people were killed and 34 were wounded over the
Memorial Day weekend, and five people were killed and at least 55 were
wounded the following weekend.