spottybrowncow wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:20 pm
Bob, I usually hesitate to give unsolicited advice, but I’m going to make an exception in your case. Take a college-level course in logic. You need to learn some fundamentals of rational thinking. You have yet to make a coherent logical argument anywhere on this forum. Admittedly, it may be too late for you.
That’s ironic. In college my major was Electronics Engineering with an informal accent on philosophy. In terms of either practical or abstract logic, I learned enough.
The difficulty is this site is dedicated to advancing xenophobia…. Racism. You identify the opposition, vilify him, and assume the proper response is hatred, opposition and conflict. You wind up dealing with emotion rather than logic. I am oriented more towards solving problems. Well, racism is a problem, Of course there is a conflict.
Now not all conservatives make me emotional in advancing different policies than they prefer. When the population density is low, it is better to be independent, to not try for the specialization and teamwork sought in more populated areas. The problems are far less visible in less populated areas, can seemingly be put off indefinitely. If any party stays dominant too long, they become partisan and corrupt. Taking into consideration of how I am more aware of cycles than most, it becomes easy to see how people get obsessed with one part of the cycle. We can disagree, but I can respect someone else’s position as the best for him.
Ideally, federalism would solve it. Tax minimally for the rural population at the state and federal levels, and leave the urban and suburban areas alone to tax higher for their higher needs. Unfortunately, the federal and state people aren’t into that approach just now. One size fits all. They do the best for their constituency, and ignore the screams of the others.
It is less easy to respect racism and elitism. Xenophobia is just a fancy academic word for racism. You get a bunch of people willing and ready to hate and oppress. Yes, it is easy to get emotional.
Now I don’t think all Trump voters are racist, elitist or both. John tends to quote the 74 million and ignore that 81 million is a larger number. Still, not all the 74 million are likely racist or elitist. The others don’t deserve dislike in my opinion. If you would care to project how many of the 74 million are deplorable, you could adjust the 74 million downward.
But those who invent reasons to hate and oppress need to be dealt with. They represent a problem that needs to be solved, one of the crisis issues that if you follow turning theory are bound to be answered.
And these people who deal with prejudice and oppression don’t handle principles like democracy, equality and human rights well. Any argument based on these things is apt to roll off a racist like water off a duck. Thus, I am the odd guy out here.
Perhaps I should imagine myself as Cassandra, foretelling an oncoming train, but no one is willing to listen. I find other sites that aren’t dedicated to racism much more ready to listen. Here? Well, the train is coming. Watching it hit will be amusing.