Let's hope you're right, Full.FullMoon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:02 pmPerhaps, but that's the very worst case scenario.Guest from Tx wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:35 pmI fully expect a Bolshevik style takeover and economic collapse. America will become part of Central America and we will become as poor as Mexicans or Venezuelans. Violet crime will go unchecked, like it is in the rest of Central America. Even if you abandon the cities, the parasites will come looking for you.Cool Breeze wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:47 am
Let me ask you this then - will they raid people's bank accounts/401k/retirement accounts, etc? Curious to know.
They'll take what they can, we presently call it taxation but it could be expanded a bit.
We'll be in a war time economy before soon odds favor.
History shows that all assets can become nationalized for periods of time. Then you have to go fight. Medical skills keep you behind the lines. MASH maybe?
The US will fragment and the wheat will be separated from the chaff, for a time. Righteousness will return to victory.
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Amen.FullMoon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:02 pmPerhaps, but that's the very worst case scenario.Guest from Tx wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:35 pmI fully expect a Bolshevik style takeover and economic collapse. America will become part of Central America and we will become as poor as Mexicans or Venezuelans. Violet crime will go unchecked, like it is in the rest of Central America. Even if you abandon the cities, the parasites will come looking for you.Cool Breeze wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:47 am
Let me ask you this then - will they raid people's bank accounts/401k/retirement accounts, etc? Curious to know.
They'll take what they can, we presently call it taxation but it could be expanded a bit.
We'll be in a war time economy before soon odds favor.
History shows that all assets can become nationalized for periods of time. Then you have to go fight. Medical skills keep you behind the lines. MASH maybe?
The US will fragment and the wheat will be separated from the chaff, for a time. Righteousness will return to victory.
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No, FullMoon, the very worst case is that WWIII escalates into a full global atomic, biological and chemical exchange and sends the world into a Neomedieval Dark Age which, with natural resources depleted and easily available fossil and fissile fuels exhausted, becomes permanent.Perhaps, but that's the very worst case scenario.
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
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― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
Re: Societal collapse
** 22-Jun-2022 World View: The Worst Case Scenario
the AI computers will be the ones to survive when all the humans are
dead.
Don't forget the Singularity. I like to say that the cockroaches andTom Mazanec wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:06 pm> No, FullMoon, the very worst case is that WWIII escalates into a
> full global atomic, biological and chemical exchange and sends the
> world into a Neomedieval Dark Age which, with natural resources
> depleted and easily available fossil and fissile fuels exhausted,
> becomes permanent.
the AI computers will be the ones to survive when all the humans are
dead.
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Right, John.
One of the first fictional treatments of the Singularity (before the term had even been coined) was "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream".
One of the first fictional treatments of the Singularity (before the term had even been coined) was "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream".
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
Re: Societal collapse
You once said that even if there were a nuclear war, mankind would rebuild within twenty years. Have you changed your mind, John?John wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:38 pm** 22-Jun-2022 World View: The Worst Case Scenario
Don't forget the Singularity. I like to say that the cockroaches andTom Mazanec wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:06 pm> No, FullMoon, the very worst case is that WWIII escalates into a
> full global atomic, biological and chemical exchange and sends the
> world into a Neomedieval Dark Age which, with natural resources
> depleted and easily available fossil and fissile fuels exhausted,
> becomes permanent.
the AI computers will be the ones to survive when all the humans are
dead.
Re: Societal collapse
** 22-Jun-2022 World View: Nuclear war
cockroaches and AI computers. Otherwise, the surviving humans will
rebuild in twenty years.
If all the humans are dead after the war, then it will just beGuest wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:20 pm> You once said that even if there were a nuclear war, mankind would
> rebuild within twenty years. Have you changed your mind,
> John?
cockroaches and AI computers. Otherwise, the surviving humans will
rebuild in twenty years.
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What's your definition of the "singularity"?John wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:38 pm** 22-Jun-2022 World View: The Worst Case Scenario
Don't forget the Singularity. I like to say that the cockroaches andTom Mazanec wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:06 pm> No, FullMoon, the very worst case is that WWIII escalates into a
> full global atomic, biological and chemical exchange and sends the
> world into a Neomedieval Dark Age which, with natural resources
> depleted and easily available fossil and fissile fuels exhausted,
> becomes permanent.
the AI computers will be the ones to survive when all the humans are
dead.
Re: Societal collapse
** 22-Jun-2022 World View: The Singularity
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... 151228.htm
** Artificial Intelligence and the Singularity by 2030
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... 151228.htm
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That's uplifting.John wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:24 pm** 22-Jun-2022 World View: Nuclear war
If all the humans are dead after the war, then it will just beGuest wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:20 pm> You once said that even if there were a nuclear war, mankind would
> rebuild within twenty years. Have you changed your mind,
> John?
cockroaches and AI computers. Otherwise, the surviving humans will
rebuild in twenty years.
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