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Higgenbotham
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Re: Vaccinations

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Bob Butler wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:10 am
Higgenbotham wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:35 am

I have only a superficial knowledge of vaccines, which is one reason I asked the questions instead of providing what I think are the answers. It's probably more complicated than I think it is. Based on my superficial knowledge, I believe the answers are as follows:

How many people who have been vaccinated against measles (MMR) have died of measles? None.

How many people who have been vaccinated against polio have died of polio? None.

In addition, how many people have been vaccinated against covid and died of covid? Many.

I think based on that and probably other examples (tetanus?, whooping cough?, etc.) it is a reasonable expectation for some to expect that a vaccine that is mandated in certain situations will provide 100% protection against whatever it is supposed to be protecting against. And if it doesn't and maybe the protection is more like 50% with a need for boosters as frequent intervals, well, it's hard for me to understand what all the fuss is about in thinking everyone should be vaccinated.
It would be more accurate to say how many people died of X? Absurdly few. How many lives were saved by the vaccines against X? Many many more. Does the Covid vaccine require more boosters than most vaccines? Yep. You can wish Covid was less potent, the vaccines against Covid more general, but wishful thinking doesn’t get you far. I’m an aged diabetic, and not surprisingly a vaccine fan. So many others want to kill me? At least they are being as careless with their own lives?

The current deaths in the US by Covid is listed at 1.11 million. Current deaths linked to the Covid vaccine? 3. Am I looking to the next booster? You bet. The three deaths were from the J&J vaccine, and I’m on another. The odds look pretty good to me.

https://covid-101.org/science/how-many- ... n-the-u-s/
Above, I had estimated the vaccine is about 50% effective.

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/why-do ... right-now/

From the link in your previous post, 79% of the population is vaccinated and 58% of covid deaths are among the vaccinated. This puts the effectiveness of the vaccine at 64%, not 50% if I figured it right.

However, and this goes back to what Wags has posted, which I agree with.
Wags wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:12 am
It seems strange to me that there is so much confusion regarding the sudden uptick in cardiac events in young adults when we know the spike protein (via infection OR vaccine) causes an increase in circulating inflammatory cytokines...
For those who have had covid, sources I have read say incidences of neurological problems are about 80% higher one year later in those who have had covid versus pre-covid times. Likewise, those who have been vaxed have incidences of certain diseases one year later at the same 80% higher rate and I think tim posted some information about that in the vaccine thread. Therefore, in my opinion, it doesn't matter too much what your source of spike protein is - it can be either covid or the vax and they are about equally harmful. Which goes back to something I posted awhile back
Higgenbotham wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:32 pm
Whether you get the vax or not you are screwed and everyone has long covid to some extent whether it's from covid or the vax. Of course, opinions will vary widely because there is so much information that falls into the latter 2 categories of Rumsfeld's classifications of information, with most people picking a side.
The most important variable in my opinion is not whether you got covid or the vax but whether your body can clear the spike protein quickly and completely while minimizing damage when it is circulating.
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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

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Been a bit busy the last few days...

Russian (Senator) Says Russia "At war with all of NATO"
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HAL TURNER
09 JANUARY 2023
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.ph ... ll-of-nato

3 minute readJanuary 10, 20237:55 AM ESTLast Updated 4 days ago
Russia is now fighting NATO in Ukraine, top Putin ally says
By Guy Faulconbridge
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pu ... 023-01-10/

5 minute readJanuary 13, 20237:55 PM ESTLast Updated 11 hours ago
Russia claims capture of Ukraine's Soledar, but Kyiv says still fighting
By Pavel Polityuk
https://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-f ... 023-01-09/

4 Submarines, 12 Warships, Hypersonic Missiles & Nuke Bombers: Russian Military Set For Massive Boost In 2023
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January 11, 2023
https://eurasiantimes.com/4-submarines- ... s-russian/

12 Jan, 2023 07:50
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US ally threatens to acquire nuclear weapons
The country has the technology to build its own arsenal, South Korea's president has claimed
https://www.rt.com/news/569726-south-ko ... r-weapons/

Iran To Station Warships in Panama Canal
Adam Kredo
January 11, 2023
https://freebeacon.com/national-securit ... ama-canal/

Taiwan Defense Ministry Reveals Rare Cooperation With NATO
by Dave DeCamp Posted onJanuary 11, 2023
https://news.antiwar.com/2023/01/11/tai ... with-nato/

Russia sends its biggest gun to Ukraine
The 240mm mortar can theoretically fire nuclear bombs
January 12, 2023
https://rmx.news/defense/russia-sends-i ... o-ukraine/

Battle Of ‘Best Dogfighters’: US-Origin F-15 Fighters To ‘Challenge’ Russian-Origin Sukhoi Flankers In Japan Drills
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January 13, 2023
https://eurasiantimes.com/battle-of-bes ... challenge/

Israel agreed to transfer anti-missile and drone tech, Ukraine amb. claims
By JERUSALEM POST STAFF Published: JANUARY 13, 2023 18:56
Updated: JANUARY 13, 2023 19:42
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-728482

America’s Dumbest War
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http://www.321gold.com/editorials/moria ... 11323.html
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CDC IDs risk with Pfizer Covid vaccine

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CNN has the CDC identifying a tentative maybe risk with the Pfizer vaccine, but are recommending it's continued use anyway.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/13/health/p ... index.html

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Its going to be interesting to watch the moving goal posts.

We went from them saying if you got the injection you wouldn't get sick to if you got the injection you couldn't die from the virus.

https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/immun ... ass-switch
Immune Tolerance: IgG4 Class Switch Starts with Even Two Doses of mRNA Vaccines
This is bad news - and a very interesting new study
That previous post, which went viral and brought me 1,008 new subscribers, was based on a study that reported levels of IgG4 (causing deadly immune tolerance to Sars-Cov-2) rising after a booster dose of mRNA vaccines and especially after breakthrough infections.
It shows that for previously uninfected people, as time passes after mRNA vaccinations (purple for Moderna and blue for Pfizer):

the quantity of good, disease-fighting IgG3 antibodies declines

the quantity of bad, disease-ignoring IgG4 antibodies rises

This leads to “immune tolerance,” causing multiple problems explained in my previous post.

Interestingly, the same problem does not appear after inoculation with AstraZeneca, which is viral-vector based and has no mRNA.
Another good news is that for people who had previous Covid-19 infection (before vaccination), IgG4 also does NOT rise, even after mRNA injections:

So, the kinds of people most affected by IgG4 are infection-naive persons who got mRNA vaccinated before having their Covid-19 infection.
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January 13, 2023
The Scariest Developments to Watch Out For in 2023
By John Kudla
https://www.americanthinker.com/article ... _2023.html
It may surprise you that none of the previous issues scares me as much as the similarities I see between 1914 and 2023.

In 1914, there were two large, well armed military alliances in Europe. Both had armed forces numbering in the millions, with detailed plans for confronting their potential enemies. All that was needed for a war to start was some unfortunate event to justify mobilization. That event occurred in June 1914 with the assassination of Austrian Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Only a month later, the armies mobilized, war-fighting plans were activated, and the war began. No one seemed able to stop it.

In 2023, we already have a land war in progress in Europe between Russia and Ukraine over Ukrainian territory claimed by Russia. Ukraine is backed materially by the largest military alliance on Earth, NATO. Since Russia and NATO have been adversaries in the past, both have war-fighting plans and doctrines from the Cold War era. Even though Russia has already threatened to use nuclear weapons multiple times, it cannot without risking retaliation by NATO.

Similarly, for several decades, China has claimed the Island of Taiwan as its territory and has indicated that it is ready to use military force to resolve the situation. The main ally of Taiwan is the United States. Both the U.S. and China have nuclear weapons. So far, both sides have limited themselves to political posturing and war games.

What could change this? Let's assume Joe Biden stumbles, falls, hits his head, has a stroke, none of which is unusual for someone in his eighties.

If he cannot continue serving as president, Kamala Harris will become the leader of the free world. While this may ignite ecstasy within the Democrat cult of diversity, it will likely ignite a sense of opportunity elsewhere.

Let's review why Biden chose her as his running mate. First, she is a female Democrat politician. Second, she is a "person of color." Yes, that is all you need in the world of identity politics. Hopefully, the fact that she was a district attorney, California attorney general, and senator from California factored into the decision, but who knows?

Even so, her ability at the presidential level seems lacking. Behind-the-scenes reports and actual observations of her performance indicate she has trouble processing information, dealing with subordinates, talking without laughing inappropriately, and speaking in clear sentences. Moreover, as a campaigner, she is a complete dud because she comes across as spoiled and entitled.

So what happens if Putin decides to use a tactical nuke to encourage Ukraine to surrender? What if Xi decides this is the time to mount a full-scale invasion of Taiwan?

Suppose a single nuclear weapon is used in any capacity for any reason. That will focus the world's attention like nothing else. At that point, the DEFCON numbers will begin to fall as everyone's war-fighting plans start to spool up. In 1914, they had thirty days to avert war. Now we may have less than thirty hours.
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Re: CDC IDs risk with Pfizer Covid vaccine

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Bob Butler wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:11 am
CNN has the CDC identifying a tentative maybe risk with the Pfizer vaccine, but are recommending it's continued use anyway.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/13/health/p ... index.html
CNN has a very low viewership and is irrelevant besides being a propped up corporate mouthpiece for those without a care for the general populace. CNN reports creates news instead of reporting it, it's so fake that it's a sign of how low standards have stooped to and what the 'authorities' will do to maintain a narrative.But they do know that the modern attention span is so low that slowly introducing the truth will have few repercussions for the guilty. If you don't know even this, then to quote BB "you are pretty hopeless."

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Biased?

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FullMoon wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:30 pm
Bob Butler wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:11 am
CNN has the CDC identifying a tentative maybe risk with the Pfizer vaccine, but are recommending it's continued use anyway.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/13/health/p ... index.html
CNN has a very low viewership and is irrelevant besides being a propped up corporate mouthpiece for those without a care for the general populace. CNN reports creates news instead of reporting it, it's so fake that it's a sign of how low standards have stooped to and what the 'authorities' will do to maintain a narrative.But they do know that the modern attention span is so low that slowly introducing the truth will have few repercussions for the guilty. If you don't know even this, then to quote BB "you are pretty hopeless."
To me, Trump and China were among the worst responders to Covid at its peak. People are still attempting to justify Trump, putting their political views ahead of the science. That's what many reports here are about. You folks are more knowledgeable about medical issues than the CDC? Uh, no. I'm not drinking that bleach, thank you. China's bad policies are at least catching up with them, contributing to their current ongoing difficulties. Trumps? He has enough problems that adding the Covid deaths to them doesn't show up to speak of. I'm still not sure if Trump, Xi, or Putin will collapse sooner or more thoroughly.

At the peak of every American crisis, the conservative causes have collapsed, and the values that caused the collapse are added to American culture. Independence. Freedom. Regulation of the economy. Containment. It looks to me as if it is happening again. I guess I could be accused of being too smug about the collapses, predicting them, anticipating them. If so, conservatives might be biased the other way. Understandable, I suppose. It sure goes against the grain of turning theory. Staying the same just isn't an option. America must move on.

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China, Taiwan, and the Microprocessor Economy
Posted on 3 January 2023 by Ron Conte
https://ronconte.com/2023/01/03/china-t ... r-economy/
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Re: Biased?

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Bob Butler wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:39 pm
FullMoon wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:30 pm
Bob Butler wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:11 am
CNN has the CDC identifying a tentative maybe risk with the Pfizer vaccine, but are recommending it's continued use anyway.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/13/health/p ... index.html
CNN has a very low viewership and is irrelevant besides being a propped up corporate mouthpiece for those without a care for the general populace. CNN reports creates news instead of reporting it, it's so fake that it's a sign of how low standards have stooped to and what the 'authorities' will do to maintain a narrative.But they do know that the modern attention span is so low that slowly introducing the truth will have few repercussions for the guilty. If you don't know even this, then to quote BB "you are pretty hopeless."
To me, Trump and China were among the worst responders to Covid at its peak. People are still attempting to justify Trump, putting their political views ahead of the science. That's what many reports here are about. You folks are more knowledgeable about medical issues than the CDC? Uh, no. I'm not drinking that bleach, thank you. China's bad policies are at least catching up with them, contributing to their current ongoing difficulties. Trumps? He has enough problems that adding the Covid deaths to them doesn't show up to speak of. I'm still not sure if Trump, Xi, or Putin will collapse sooner or more thoroughly.

At the peak of every American crisis, the conservative causes have collapsed, and the values that caused the collapse are added to American culture. Independence. Freedom. Regulation of the economy. Containment. It looks to me as if it is happening again. I guess I could be accused of being too smug about the collapses, predicting them, anticipating them. If so, conservatives might be biased the other way. Understandable, I suppose. It sure goes against the grain of turning theory. Staying the same just isn't an option. America must move on.
Let me help you a bit. You are trying and that's admirable.
Do not use your personal perspective to attribute liberal and conservative to these issues. EVERYTHING now is fluid and the truth of the matter is getting lost in the fog of war. Trust only your heart and your mind. Then it becomes more clear. The more confused and complicated, the more simple and clear it becomes. The youth are looking towards the future, elderly are mired in the past. Stay youthful to the end

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Re: Biased?

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Bob Butler wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:39 pm
FullMoon wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:30 pm
Bob Butler wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:11 am
CNN has the CDC identifying a tentative maybe risk with the Pfizer vaccine, but are recommending it's continued use anyway.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/13/health/p ... index.html
CNN has a very low viewership and is irrelevant besides being a propped up corporate mouthpiece for those without a care for the general populace. CNN reports creates news instead of reporting it, it's so fake that it's a sign of how low standards have stooped to and what the 'authorities' will do to maintain a narrative.But they do know that the modern attention span is so low that slowly introducing the truth will have few repercussions for the guilty. If you don't know even this, then to quote BB "you are pretty hopeless."
To me, Trump and China were among the worst responders to Covid at its peak. People are still attempting to justify Trump, putting their political views ahead of the science. That's what many reports here are about. You folks are more knowledgeable about medical issues than the CDC? Uh, no. I'm not drinking that bleach, thank you. China's bad policies are at least catching up with them, contributing to their current ongoing difficulties. Trumps? He has enough problems that adding the Covid deaths to them doesn't show up to speak of. I'm still not sure if Trump, Xi, or Putin will collapse sooner or more thoroughly.

At the peak of every American crisis, the conservative causes have collapsed, and the values that caused the collapse are added to American culture. Independence. Freedom. Regulation of the economy. Containment. It looks to me as if it is happening again. I guess I could be accused of being too smug about the collapses, predicting them, anticipating them. If so, conservatives might be biased the other way. Understandable, I suppose. It sure goes against the grain of turning theory. Staying the same just isn't an option. America must move on.
You're writing as if Trump is still president. Xi and Putin are still in power. If you substitute Biden for Trump in that paragraph above, then you've got it right.
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‘Died Suddenly’? More Than 1-in-4 Think Someone They Know Died From COVID-19 Vaccines
Monday, January 02, 2023

Nearly half of Americans think COVID-19 vaccines may be to blame for many unexplained deaths, and more than a quarter say someone they know could be among the victims.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that (49%) of American Adults believe it is likely that side effects of COVID-19 vaccines have caused a significant number of unexplained deaths, including 28% who think it’s Very Likely. Thirty-seven percent (37%) don’t say a significant number of deaths have been caused by vaccine side effects, including 17% who believe it’s Not At All Likely. Another 14% are not sure. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
However, there is less political difference in the number who suspect someone they know might have died from vaccine side effects – 33% of Democrats and 26% of both Republicans and the unaffiliated.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public ... 9_vaccines
Bob Butler wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:10 am
The current deaths in the US by Covid is listed at 1.11 million. Current deaths linked to the Covid vaccine? 3. Am I looking to the next booster? You bet. The three deaths were from the J&J vaccine, and I’m on another. The odds look pretty good to me.
Thanks, but no thanks. I'll go with the poll.
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