24-Dec-18 World View -- Generational Dynamics analysis of the troop withdrawal from Syria

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Re: 24-Dec-18 World View -- Generational Dynamics analysis of the troop withdrawal from Syria

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Tom Mazanec wrote:
John wrote:** 18-Jul-2019 Waterfall
FishbellykanakaDude wrote: > I shall continue my wishful, or sensible (we shall see),
> assumption, which I suppose may make an "ASS out of U and MPTION",
> that John is just being a "drama queen" (as it were, not inferring
> anything!) for effect to make a point as regards age
> discrimination in the tech field.
I never write fake news.

If you're on a raft that's floating rapidly downstream toward a
waterfall, and you can't get off the raft, then one way or another
you're going to go over the waterfall, even if you don't want to.

You can try to save yourself by paddling backwards, but that just
slightly delays the final outcome. You're still going to go over the
waterfall, even if you don't want to.
In regards to dying, that is what 99.9999% of the human race does. Everyone dies eventually, but almost everyone tries to hold it off for as many hours as possible.
OK,.. you've forced my hand,.. how do you know about those 0.0001% humans, and do you realize we have to "deal" with you now!?

..this COULD get ugly..!

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Re: 24-Dec-18 World View -- Generational Dynamics analysis of the troop withdrawal from Syria

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  • The average proportions of the spars of merchant vessels of the largest class, as formerly built:

    Main-mast, two and a half times the ship's beam.
    Fore-mast, eight ninths of the main-mast.
    Mizzen-mast, five sixths of the main-mast.
    Bowsprit, two thirds of the main-mast.
    Topmasts, three fifths of the lower masts.
    Topgallant masts, one half the length of their topmasts.
    Jib-boom, the length of the bowsprit.
    Main-yard, twice the beam.
    Fore-yard, seven eighths of the main-yard.
    Maintopsail-yard, two thirds of the main-yard.
    Foretopsail-yard, two thirds of the fore-yard.
    Crossjack-yard, the length of the maintopsail-yard.
    Topgallant-yards, two thirds of the topsail-yards.
    Mizzentopsail-yard, the length of the maintopgallant-yard.
    Royal-yards, two thirds of the topgallant-yards.
    Spritsail-yard, five sixths of the foretopsail-yard.
    Spanker-boom, the length of the maintopsail-yard.
    Spanker-gaff, two thirds of the boom.

    Placing the Masts:
    • For a full-built ship, take the ship's extreme length and divide it into sevenths.
    • Place the foremast one seventh of this length from the stem; the mainmast three sevenths from the foremast, and the mizzenmast two sevenths from the mainmast.
    • If a vessel is sharp-built, and her stem and stern-post rake, her foremast should be further aft, and her mizzenmast further forward, than the rule of sevenths would give.
    • A common rule for placing the foremast, is to deduct three fifths of a ship's beam from her length, for the curvature of the keel forward, which is called the keel-stroke, and place the mast next abaft the keel-stroke.
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1 Head............................45 Main topmast cross-trees..........89 Main topgallant stay.
2 Head-boards...................46 Mizzen top...........................90 Main royal stay.
3 Stem............................47 Mizzenmast cap.....................91 Main lifts.
4 Bows............................48 Mizzen topmast cross-trees.......92 Main braces.
5 Forecastle......................49 Fore yard.............................93 Main topsail lifts.
6 Waist............................50 Fore topsail yard....................94 Main topsail braces.
7 Quarter-deck..................51 Fore topgallant yard...............95 Main topgallant lifts.
8 Gangway........................52 Fore royal yard......................96 Main topgallant braces.
9 Counter.........................53 Main yard.............................97 Main royal lifts.
10 Stern............................54 Main topsail yard....................98 Main royal braces.
11 Tafferel.........................55 Main topgallant yard................99 Main rigging.
12 Fore chains.....................56 Main royal yard.....................100 Main topmast rigging.
13 Main chains.....................57 Cross-jack yard.....................101 Main topgallant rigging.
14 Mizzen chains..................58 Mizzen topsail yard................102 Main topmast backstays.
15 Bowsprit........................59 Mizzen topgallant yard............103 Main topgallant backstays.
16 Jib-boom.......................60 Mizzen royal yard..................104 Main royal backstays.
17 Flying jib-boom................61 Fore truck...........................105 Cross-jack lifts.
18 Spritsail yard...................62 Main truck...........................106 Cross-jack braces.
19 Martingale......................63 Mizzen truck........................107 Mizzen topsail lifts.
20 Bowsprit cap...................64 Fore stay............................108 Mizzen topsail braces.
21 Foremast.......................65 Fore topmast stay...................109 Mizzen topgallant lifts.
22 Fore topmast..................66 Jib stay..............................110 Mizzen topgal't braces.
23 Fore topgallant mast.........67 Fore topgallant stay...............111 Mizzen royal lifts.
24 Fore royal mast...............68 Flying-jib stay......................112 Mizzen royal braces.
25 Fore skysail mast.............69 Fore royal stay.....................113 Mizzen stay.
26 Main mast......................70 Fore skysail stay...................114 Mizzen topmast stay.
27 Main topmast..................71 Jib guys.............................115 Mizzen topgallant stay.
28 Main topgallant mast.........72 Flying-jib guys.....................116 Mizzen royal stay.
29 Main royal mast...............73 Fore lifts............................117 Mizzen skysail stay.
30 Main skysail mast.............74 Fore braces.........................118 Mizzen rigging.
31 Mizzen mast...................75 Fore topsail lifts...................119 Mizzen topmast rigging.
32 Mizzen topmast...............76 Fore topsail braces................120 Mizzen topgal. shrouds.
33 Mizzen topgallant mast......77 Fore topgallant lifts...............121 Mizzen topmast backstays.
34 Mizzen royal mast............78 Fore topgallant braces............122 Mizzen topgal'nt backstays.
35 Mizzen skysail mast..........79 Fore royal lifts.....................123 Mizzen royal backstays.
36 Fore spencer gaff............80 Fore royal braces..................124 Fore spencer vangs.
37 Main spencer gaff............81 Fore rigging.........................125 Main spencer vangs.
38 Spanker gaff..................82 Fore topmast rigging..............126 Spanker vangs.
39 Spanker boom................83 Fore topgallant shrouds..........127 Ensign halyards.
40 Fore top.......................84 Fore topmast backstays..........128 Spanker peak halyards.
41 Foremast cap.................85 Fore topgallant backstays.......129 Foot-rope to fore yard.
42 Fore topmast cross-trees...86 Fore royal backstays..............130 Foot-rope to main yard.
43 Main top.......................87 Main stay............................131 Foot-rope to cross-jack yard.
44 Mainmast cap.................88 Main topmast stay.

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Re: 24-Dec-18 World View -- Generational Dynamics analysis of the troop withdrawal from Syria

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Guest wrote:Nice ship.
Reading Comprehension Test #1:
  • To loose a Sail:

    Lay out to the yard-arms and cast off the gaskets, beginning at the outermost and coming in. When the gaskets are cast off from both yard-arms, then let go the bunt gasket, (and jigger, if there be one,) and overhaul the buntlines and leechlines. In loosing a topsail in a gale of wind, it is better to cast off the quarter-gaskets, (except the one which confines the clew,) before those at the yard-arms. Royals and topgallant sails generally have one long gasket to each yard-arm; in which case it is not necessary to go out upon the yard, but the gaskets, after being cast off, should be fastened to the tye by a bowline.
..ya' got that, right?

(I love older English jargon! Just SO freakin' poetic..!)

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Where is the plank? I have a list of people I want to walk it.

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Guest wrote:Where is the plank? I have a list of people I want to walk it.
You mean the random long board in the Carpenter's shop? I doubt he'll let you borrow it though.

Have YOU ever tried to make a flat straight board out of a tree!?

Plus, the Ship's Master would be REALLY pissed at him if a plank walking was happening and he couldn't give him a decent plank,.. ya' know!

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How much would a ship like that cost today? Does anyone still build them? And where would I find the men to crew it?

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Guest wrote:How much would a ship like that cost today? Does anyone still build them? And where would I find the men to crew it?
It would cost a crazy amount of money.

Search youtube for "Acorn to Arabella" and "Sampson Boat Co" for guys building old-style wood boats, as well as "How to Sail Oceans" for a single-hander (solo sailor) on a small gaff-rigged old-style wooden boat with no engine (other than the "often very useful" outboard on his dinghy).

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John, read this article about suicide:
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... uch-higher
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

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** 12-Sep-2019 World View: Suicide rate
Tom Mazanec wrote: > John, read this article about suicide:
> http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... uch-higher
The suicide issue is a lot more complicated than the "Life is an
absolutely incredible gift" simplistic moralizing approach.

For Generational Dynamics, I've written thousands of articles on
things like war, torture, rape, genocide, ethnic cleansing, poverty,
starvation and suicide. What I've learned is that "Life is absolutely
incredibly worthless." And life is particularly absolutely incredibly
worthless for old people, who are worth less than garbage.

Here's a quote that captures the concept:
Man of La Mancha wrote: > "'Life as it is.' I have lived for over forty years
> and I've seen 'life as it is'. Pain. Misery.
> Cruelty beyond belief. I've heard all the voices of
> God's noblest creature -- moans from bundles of filth
> in the street. I've been a soldier and a slave. I've
> seen my comrades fall in battle or die more slowly
> under the lash in Africa. I've held them at the last
> moment. These were men who saw 'life as it is,' but
> they died despairing.

> No glory. No bray of last words. Only their eyes,
> filled with confusion, questioning, 'Why?'

> I do not think they were asking why they were dying,
> but why they had ever lived.

> When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where
> madness lies? Perhaps to be too practical is madness.
> To surrender dreams, this may be madness. To seek
> treasure where there is only trash. Too much sanity
> may be madness. But maddest of all -- to see life as
> it is, and not as it should be!"
For every species of animal, the population grows faster than the
food supply. The same is true for humans.

If the population grows faster than the food supply, as it does for
every animal species, then there have to be ways to get rid of people
-- through war, disease, famine, genocide, ethnic cleansing, suicide.
One can prove mathematically that these things must occur.

If you believe that God created the world, then it's God's fault that
war, disease, famine, genocide, ethnic cleansing, and suicide occur.
If God didn't want these things to occur, then he should have created
a world where the population and the food supply grow at the same
rate. But they don't, and that's God's fault.

The need for war, genocide and suicide becomes more and more apparent
during decades of peace, as each decade passes, there is less food per
person than the previous decade. Everything falls into place during
generational crisis wars, where this imbalance is fixed.

If you believe that God created the world, then you can see all of
God's tools come into place to fix the problem that he created -- war,
disease, famine, genocide, ethnic cleansing, suicide are all the
"absolutely incredible gifts" that God provided as tools to kill
enough worthless people so that the rest of the worthless people have
enough to eat. God makes sure that, sooner or later, every nation
throws out its garbage.

Everybody's heard of the "Baby Boom" that followed World War II.
But few people mention the "Baby Bust" that precedes a generational
crisis war. We're seeing it today as young people postpone
marriage and children, and the suicide rate has been going up
for almost 20 years.

There's less food per person today than there was in the 1990s, and
that translates into poverty, and so in America we're seeing more
suicides by people who can't pay for groceries, and also more suicides
by teenagers who love their parents enough to want to spare them the
enormous costs of raising children. If you or your parents can't
pay for groceries, then killing yourself is perfectly reasonable.

A more dramatic result of what's going on is the refugee situation.
We see massive movements of refugees in Latin America, Asia and
Africa, as huge populations of people are no longer able to feed
themselves or their families.

All of these things also happened in the 1930s. Here's a fascinating
article that describes suicide in the 1930s:

http://www.oldmagazinearticles.com/arti ... depression

So, as poverty increases, more and more people kill themselves, which
makes sense.

Here's one nugget from the article that I found particularly
interesting: "The suicide rate remained higher than normal throughout
the remainder of the Great Depression and was then drastically reduced
when World War II began in Europe."

I interpret this to mean that when someone who can't afford to buy
groceries might commit suicide during times of peace, but might join
the army during times of war. That way, you become a hero rather than
a coward.

People who commit suicide are viewed by other people as cowards,
heroes or martyrs. If you're going to commit suicide, then you might
commit suicide by joining the army so you can be a hero. Or you might
commit suicide in the name of the Pope, so that you'll be a martyr and
-- who knows? You might even be rewarded for committing suicide by
becoming a Saint.

After all: Like war, committing suicide is God's Will.

P.S.: If you're religious and you want to commit suicide without
"going to hell," then you have an easy solution. Just jump off the
roof of a ten story building and, on the way down, pray to God,
repent, and ask God for forgiveness. By the time you go splat, you'll
be forgiven and ready to go to heaven. Easy peasy.

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