24-Dec-18 World View -- Generational Dynamics analysis of the troop withdrawal from Syria

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Higgenbotham wrote:
FishbellykanakaDude wrote: That's why, in my own mind at least, and perhaps other's, "life" equals "risky gamble".

Actually, if it DOESN'T mean that, you're not doing it right. :)
I believe I understand the thought process. Generically speaking, life operates on the "edge of chaos" because the future is unknown.

... But you also presumably mitigate that risk to the greatest extent possible.

There are things civilizations normally do to mitigate risk... . One is to pay a rate of interest on savings to those who have performed their societal obligation to work, have diligently saved according to prescribed rules of thumb, and can no longer work. For the most part, this was abolished in 2008 to promote "risky gambles".

I would submit that what was done to John and others who were retired and did not want to be forced into "risky gambles" was uncivilized and, for those, there was no benefit to this civilizational arrangement because it did not properly mitigate risk and required "risky gambles" where not appropriate.

...

Also, if retirees are not able to collect any interest on their savings, why is rampant age discrimination allowed? Either set a rate of interest that is reasonable or allow them to work.
It is truly traitorous to change the rules of a particular game on people playing that game in mid-game.

Unfortunately, or more probably fortunately, nature doesn't really "understand" the concept of "traitorousness".

It's unfortunate that people "are driven" to be traitorous, by changing game rules, but sometimes nature forces "it's will" on people to do things that aren't particularly "wonderful".

And... we're back to the "nature of evil" conundrum that pops up around here quite often. :)

It would be lovely if "civilization" would see to it that we were all thoroughly comfortable at all times (of day and during our lifecycle), but is that REALLY what "we" want to have happen?

My opinion (obviously): One of our major "tasks" in life is to learn to be simultaneously very uncomfortable and happy ("about not being dead").

..I'm not gonna argue with anybody, or try to convince anybody, that that's more accurate than not, but the "image" of a person being not-humorlessly pugnacious in the face of suffering is preferable to me to the "image" of a person "doing anything else" in the face of suffering.

..'though it's not my place to condemn or diminish those who can't "live up" to my self-serving "preferences".



When I was a kid, my most frequent "fantasy" was to head off into the wilderness in a loincloth with a decent knife.

I think that's because I needed to learn something that I didn't know I needed to learn.

..these days the loincloth is my teeny boat and the knife is some robust and simple fishing gear.

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** 12-Jul-2019 Formaldehyde and other options
> I'm going to look consider using this if it comes to what I
> mentioned above re my situation:

> https://www.sciencecompany.com/Formalde ... 16385.aspx

> Back in 1983, I arrived at work at the Monsanto Research Labs to
> find out somebody in the building had committed suicide by
> drinking 5 ml of formaldehyde out of a graduated cylinder and was
> found dead on the floor. From what I was told, that was a very
> expeditious way to do a suicide.
It may be expeditious, but you may be in severe pain for a very long
period of time. Here's a case study:

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1ebd/8 ... baa519.pdf

If you don't mind severe pain, another way to do it would be to do
what the Buddhists do -- drench yourself in gasoline and light a
match.

The PPB book that I mentioned doesn't include formaldehyde/formalin,
probably for the reasons I mentioned -- a long period of severe pain.

I went through the book and just made a list of all the chemicals and
methods that it covers:

Carbon monoxide, opioids (opium, morphine, codeine, oxycodone,
heroin), detergent - hydrogen sulphide, sodium cyanide, sodium azide,
sodium nitrite, pethadine, methadone, fentanyl, carfentanil),
propoxyphene, amytriptyline, chloroquine, insulin, chloral hydrate,
3-drug protocol (Morphine sulphate, chlorine hydrate, phenobarbital),
4-drug protocol/DDMP (morphine, valium, propranolol, digoxin),
nembutal, travel to Switzerland

Some of these chemicals are easy to obtain, some hard. Some work
quickly, some slowly, some don't always work. Any choice has to be
carefully researched.

I'm posting this list because, as I've previously said, no one should
commit suicide without a great deal of planning, requiring several
weeks or months, at least to minimize the financial, legal and
emotional pain of the people who are left behind. Just researching
the above list should require at least a few of weeks of time.

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John wrote:... <Jacques Brel reference> ...
Ah, now I get the Jacques Brel reference... He's buried in.. wait for it...

The Marquesas..!!!

..artist (singer), actor, French/Belgian guy (I'm vaguely/distantly Norman French [Norman/Waloonish Irish]), world sailor, and (eventually) dead guy buried on Hiva Oa near Atuona Bay in French Polynesia.

Several things I want to be (or sorta am), except maybe for the "stinky francophone chain-smoker" thing and dying at 49 of cancer.

Merci beaucoup Monsieur! :)

Aloha 'oe a mahalo nui. <shaka!>

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John wrote:... travel to Switzerland ...
Wait a minute,.. I've been to Switzerland, and it didn't kill me..!!!




..that IS hilarious though. <super-chuckle!>

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Are things at least looking up enough that you think you might have more than a month or two, John?
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

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** 16-Jul-2019 Time
Tom Mazanec wrote: > Are things at least looking up enough that you think you might
> have more than a month or two, John?
I endured two new big humiliations in the last couple of weeks. I
won't whine about the details, since it's just more of the same.

So there's no hope of employment as a software engineer, no hope of
employment as a journalist/analyst, no hope of any book sales, no hope
of any funding, and no hope for recognition. So nothing has changed.
However, I have reduced some expenses, so I would expect to run out of
money in five or six months. As I've said before, it be nice for me
to write a book on Russia or India, similar to my books on Iran and
China which I think are groundbreaking, but I don't have time for
anything like that before I run out of money and can't buy groceries
or pay the rent. So I'm just using the time I have left to produce
some materials for the few people who might be interested, and leave
it at that.

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** 16-Jul-2019 Exit International newsletter

The following information is for journalists and others who are doing
research on suicide. This is from the newsletter of Exit
International.

Vice Studios present the London advance screening of their new feature
documentary 'Time to Die'.

When: 6.30pm, Wednesday 17 July 2019

Where: Rio Cinema, 107 Kingsland High St, E8 2PB London

Tickets: £3.77 at Eventbrite


About The Film:

Time To Die follows four people, all on a mission to end their own
lives. Some are old and in pain; others are young but terminally ill;
others are dealing with mental health issues and feel that their life
is intolerable.

All have become “members” of Exit International, an underground
organisation that gives advice on how to achieve a peaceful death,
including details on lethal drugs and guidance on how to source and
administer them, even if it means breaking the law.

But such activity can be tracked by authorities. Interpol intercepts
'members' messages, leading to armed police raids on private homes in
search of these drugs. As the arguments on an individual's right to
choose the time and manner of their demise rage on, Time To Die
explores the highly charged issue of assisted dying and assisted
suicide and brings to light important questions on both sides of this
debate. There are no easy answers.

In June 2019, Time to Die won the Fragments Film Festival best film
award.

---

Avril Henry blog
Police Welfare Checks •
What to do if you get one?

Former University of Exeter Professor, Avril Henry, had one. And many
other elderly Exit Members have had one too. What are we talking
about?

A Police welfare check!

Information has recently come to Exit's attention that Police welfare
checks are happening again in more than one country.

What is a welfare check?

A Police Welfare Check is an unexpected home visit (often late at
night) from your local Police with the aim of confiscating your drugs
(should you have any) but under the guise of checking that you are ok.

In one of the more sensational of these visits, Professor Avril Henry
had her front door kicked down by the Exeter (UK) Police when she
refused them entry late one night in April 2016.

Avril's experience is now the subject of a new feature documentary by
Vice Studios, entitled 'Time to Die'.

Exit has recently learned that at least one member has had a 'welfare
check' despite his purchasing Nembutal using Bitcoins and a Protonmail
email address.

This suggests a breakdown in privacy somehow, somewhere.

Read Exit's new blog on Police Welfare Checks HERE

Remember, if the Police do not have a court-issued warrant, you do not
have to let them in! And, if you are lucky enough to have Nembutal in
the 'cupboard', as your insurance policy for the future, use your
common sense about where you keep it.

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The following information is for journalists and others who are doing
research on suicide.
John,
I'm worrying: are you contemplating suicide?

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jullien1 wrote:
The following information is for journalists and others who are doing
research on suicide.
John,
I'm worrying: are you contemplating suicide?

Hell yes, jullien1. I did everything I could think of to try to talk him out of it, and even went so far as to contact his local police. He conned them into thinking he was alright. He then posted a remark on this forum cursing me (literally) and vowing even more to do away with himself. I came this close to showing that remark to his police, but my cousin and guardian (I am an aspie), who is a former cop, talked me out of it. I give up.
I am a Roman Catholic and believe that a cold blooded suicide is a one way ticket to Hell. I would miss this forum a lot if he did away with himself, but I would fear even more for his soul.
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

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** 17-Jul-2019 Nutjob
Tom Mazanec wrote: > Hell yes, jullien1. I did everything I could think of to try to
> talk him out of it, and even went so far as to contact his local
> police. He conned them into thinking he was alright. He then
> posted a remark on this forum cursing me (literally) and vowing
> even more to do away with himself. I came this close to
> showing that remark to his police, but my cousin and guardian (I
> am an aspie), who is a former cop, talked me out of it. I give up.

> I am a Roman Catholic and believe that a cold blooded suicide is a
> one way ticket to Hell. I would miss this forum a lot if he did
> away with himself, but I would fear even more for his
> soul.
You're a total nutjob. You're the one who should be locked up.

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