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John wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:09 pm
** 17-Jun-2021 World View: Fox Nation streaming service
Tom Mazanec wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:44 pm
> John, since I have no cable now, is there a way I can see some of
> this stuff?
All of the Fox News shows are available on the Fox Nation streaming
site at (foxnation.com), along with a lot of additional original
content.

The price is $5.99 per month. I personally do not subscribe to it,
since I have plenty of other stuff to watch.
Thanks, John.
Sorry, the price is a deal breaker for me. Even my Right wing guardian would likely not go along with me paying the extra money. He thinks I already pay too much for my science fiction magazine subscriptions, and I would have to give a couple up to watch it. I will make do with free online stuff like American Thinker.
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

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John wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:56 pm
** 17-Jun-2021 World View: Civic unity regeneracy
Trevor wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:17 pm
> Considering what's going on right now, how would we ever be able
> to stand up against a Chinese attack? Our military's focusing more
> on being woke than being ready for a possible conflict. I watch
> Biden's conferences, and he's barely able to keep it together even
> through softball interviews. I'd be amazed if he lives through his
> first term.

> Silicon Valley is no longer pretending to be impartial, even
> willing to assist China. However, it at least doesn't seem like
> they intend to pack the court, and I expect the recent unanimous
> decision overturning his legislation was meant as a message
> against it. We'll see if they decide to arrest Trump, and if they
> do, we can expect much worse to be seen.
I've said this many times, but apparently few people believe me, even
in this forum.

The way it will end is with a "regeneracy event," an event that
threatens the existence of America and its way of life. This event
will cause all the woke crap to be abandoned, as the country unites to
respond to the threat.

In 1941, it was the Pearl Harbor attack and the Bataan Death March.
Today, it might be a missile attack on an American city, or it might
be a major military disaster overseas. Today, it's most likely going
to be whatever event triggers war with China.
I hope you are right on this, John (and I think you are). But even with America's gross asymmetry in military power, it won't be a cake walk, especially with what China has done to our computer chips.
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

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spottybrowncow wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:45 am
Bob Butler wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:42 pm
Trump allowed Russia much, Biden is at least talking tough.
I would like to propose an ongoing contest for the stupidest thing ever posted on this forum, and nominate the above quote for the first award.

For the benefit of the poster, among Biden's first actions was to destroy America's energy independence which Trump made possible, while giving his blessing to Russia supplying Nato's energy needs.
I'll second that nomination.

I wonder if Biden and Putin secretly had a good laugh at America's expense?

I wonder how much dirt Putin has on Biden?

I wonder how on earth America will survive what's coming with people like Biden and Kamala in charge?

God help us.


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** 18-Jun-2021 World View: Fox Nation
Tom Mazanec wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:55 am
> Sorry, the price is a deal breaker for me. Even my Right wing
> guardian would likely not go along with me paying the extra
> money. He thinks I already pay too much for my science fiction
> magazine subscriptions, and I would have to give a couple up to
> watch it. I will make do with free online stuff like American
> Thinker.
If you happen to know a veteran who would be willing to help you, Fox
advertises that veterans can get a year for free, so maybe the veteran
might get an account and let you use it.

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Sure, I expect we'll eventually throw out all the woke crap they're putting in the military, but how much damage is going to be done before that happens? We care more about intersectionality than facing a certain threat. I expect there's a similar attitude that existed in the years before WWII: we really, really don't want to fight another war. Iraq is seen as senseless, as is Afghanistan, we see each other as the enemy, and just about everyone campaigns on not getting involved in another overseas conflict.

One more thing to consider: in World War 2, Russia helped build the military Hitler turned on them. Between 1940 and 1941, enormous amounts of raw materials from the Soviet Union were transported to Germany, including 900,000 tons of oil. If he didn't have this oil supply, Hitler could never have invaded and nearly crushed the Soviets the way he did. They would have been suffering shortages by June, and by October, they'd be completely dry. It's not an exact comparison, but we've done something similar with China. We allowed them into the World Trade Organization, signed trade deals highly in their favor, borrowed trillions from them, becoming dependent on many necessities, including medicine.

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Trevor wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:50 am
Sure, I expect we'll eventually throw out all the woke crap they're putting in the military, but how much damage is going to be done before that happens? We care more about intersectionality than facing a certain threat. I expect there's a similar attitude that existed in the years before WWII: we really, really don't want to fight another war. Iraq is seen as senseless, as is Afghanistan, we see each other as the enemy, and just about everyone campaigns on not getting involved in another overseas conflict.

One more thing to consider: in World War 2, Russia helped build the military Hitler turned on them. Between 1940 and 1941, enormous amounts of raw materials from the Soviet Union were transported to Germany, including 900,000 tons of oil. If he didn't have this oil supply, Hitler could never have invaded and nearly crushed the Soviets the way he did. They would have been suffering shortages by June, and by October, they'd be completely dry. It's not an exact comparison, but we've done something similar with China. We allowed them into the World Trade Organization, signed trade deals highly in their favor, borrowed trillions from them, becoming dependent on many necessities, including medicine.
That just means we will suffer Russia's fate in WW2: tens of millions of dead and our country laid waste.

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** 18-Jun-2021 World View: Unfair treaties
Trevor wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:50 am
> Sure, I expect we'll eventually throw out all the woke crap
> they're putting in the military, but how much damage is going to
> be done before that happens? We care more about intersectionality
> than facing a certain threat. I expect there's a similar attitude
> that existed in the years before WWII: we really, really don't
> want to fight another war. Iraq is seen as senseless, as is
> Afghanistan, we see each other as the enemy, and just about
> everyone campaigns on not getting involved in another overseas
> conflict.
Quite honestly, I expect attitudes to change overnight. We actually
have a recent example to look at. You mentioned Afghanistan. After
9/11/2001, we declared war on Afghanistan within 24 hours. I would
expect the same thing in case of an attack by China.
Trevor wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:50 am
> One more thing to consider: in World War 2, Russia helped build
> the military Hitler turned on them. Between 1940 and 1941,
> enormous amounts of raw materials from the Soviet Union were
> transported to Germany, including 900,000 tons of oil. If he
> didn't have this oil supply, Hitler could never have invaded and
> nearly crushed the Soviets the way he did. They would have been
> suffering shortages by June, and by October, they'd be completely
> dry. It's not an exact comparison, but we've done something
> similar with China. We allowed them into the World Trade
> Organization, signed trade deals highly in their favor, borrowed
> trillions from them, becoming dependent on many necessities,
> including medicine.
That's a good comparison, but the comparison is even better with
Russia and China. China is scarfing up all of Russia's resources,
apparently making a fool of Putin the way that Hitler made a
fool of Stalin.
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

When China is ready, it will turn Russia into a vassal, and attack
Russia's Far East and Vladivostok, which China claims is its own
sovereign territory that it lost through "unfair treaties."

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John wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:46 am
** 18-Jun-2021 World View: Fox Nation
Tom Mazanec wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:55 am
> Sorry, the price is a deal breaker for me. Even my Right wing
> guardian would likely not go along with me paying the extra
> money. He thinks I already pay too much for my science fiction
> magazine subscriptions, and I would have to give a couple up to
> watch it. I will make do with free online stuff like American
> Thinker.
If you happen to know a veteran who would be willing to help you, Fox
advertises that veterans can get a year for free, so maybe the veteran
might get an account and let you use it.
My guardian is a veteran. I will make a mental note to ask him.
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

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John wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:56 pm
** 17-Jun-2021 World View: Civic unity regeneracy
Trevor wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:17 pm
> Considering what's going on right now, how would we ever be able
> to stand up against a Chinese attack? Our military's focusing more
> on being woke than being ready for a possible conflict. I watch
> Biden's conferences, and he's barely able to keep it together even
> through softball interviews. I'd be amazed if he lives through his
> first term.
....
.
I've said this many times, but apparently few people believe me, even
in this forum.

The way it will end is with a "regeneracy event," an event that
threatens the existence of America and its way of life. This event
will cause all the woke crap to be abandoned, as the country unites to
respond to the threat.

In 1941, it was the Pearl Harbor attack and the Bataan Death March.
Today, it might be a missile attack on an American city, or it might
be a major military disaster overseas. Today, it's most likely going
to be whatever event triggers war with China.
This is not going to happen this time. That's because the country back then was mostly ethnically homogeneous. Evidence is how the country reacted to Covid. Despite the seriousness, it quickly devolved into bickering and jockeying for power, while the deaths of hundreds of thousands were used as props to score political points and change the balance of power between branches and over the population. Ethno-economic issues played heavily into every aspect (who had access to the vaccine, the name of the variants, the name of the origin, who was excluded from travel).

The "existence of America and its way of life.." is an anachronism of a bygone era; you are living in the past. That America no longer exists and consequently will not be defended but for a few die-hards who missed the writing on the wall. Instead most people will loot what they can from the burning buildings just as they do during riots. "The way of life" from the perspective of politicians and selfish Americans is just what I described, not what you think it is, i.e. apple pies and baseball and 1957 Chevrolets in Suburbia. In reality it's all about the illusion of "giving back", "making a difference(TM)" (The sleight of hand), while looting everything in sight by any means necessary. Most people understand, even the low-IQ instinctively, that America is dying and now is the time to pick the corpse clean before only the dry bones are left.

When WWIII happens the deaths of millions will be used as political props just as it was for Covid. One side will accuse the other of incompetence and the need to remove them from power, unite us all (LOL), and win the war against Covid, er I mean the Evil Chinese menace.

The reason this will happen is that when we fight China, they will not make extensive attacks on the US mainland and as such it won't be seen as a serious "existential threat" by idiotic politicians and lazy, entitled, woke Americans. Their attacks will concentrate on Taiwan and Japan and anyone in the Indo Pacific who tries to stand in their way. Guam is toast and will be nuked into glass, and I guess finally the US realized that (they read my posts), and recently decided to move critical assets away from there.

Just as the Civil War, WWI, WWII were used as excuses to tax the population to pay for the war effort, new means of taking wealth away from the people and concentrate it into the hands of the government elites will be implemented. It's already happening with unconstitutional wealth tax proposals. Similarly these new proposals are linked with the 'war on Covid" (see how this works?) and how the rich benefited and even has the Orwellian name "Patriot Tax".

Circling back (hat tip to Psaki) to the importance of ethnic homogeneity, Japan is united and prosperous and handled Covid much better than most nations because of it. The safe, clean, clockwork society is also why thousands of Western Weebs are obsessed with them. In simple terms the Japanese love their fellow Japanese and will cooperate across society when necessary, existential threat or not. China also has this property. America does not and that will be the source of our undoing. We hate each other and work constantly to wrest power from the "other" which often is based on ethnic or other identities. WWIII will be seen as a perfect opportunity for one group to consolidate power over another.

If China did some horrific attack against the US like the Bataan Death March, we would do the OPPOSITE of what we did during WWII, such as interning Japanese, vilifying them, and ultimately nuking them. No, these days we would bend over backwards to protect all ethnic Asians across the west, we would not vilify any Chinese even the mainland perpetrators, and Chinese agents would be free to carry out their operations as no internment of Chinese would be acceptable.

Like you say John, history doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes. Just as Rome ended its empire disunited and squabbling, so will the US.

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