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aedens
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That was never on the table. In case you didn’t catch Chilton’s meaning, here is the shorter version: Unless and until Wall Street’s disproportionate ability to bully Washington is curtailed, the rest of us will be held hostage to its agenda. For those interested in the fuller version, Chilton has been writing a book. Its working title: “Theft.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-2 ... washington

Question. How can one make intelligent decisions based on suppressed information, half truths and lies?

Scorn or pity covers the truth for normal taxpayers.

Jung's case resembles that of another charismatic intellectual, the philosopher Martin Heidegger, who was much more of a collaborator than Jung. These ambitious men were not naïve; they were overconfident about their ability to manipulate.

Old news to "social silences" and understanding the consequences of the silent war operations. It is not that hard.
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gerald
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aedens ---There is much truth in the statement , --

"Unless and until Wall Street’s disproportionate ability to bully Washington is curtailed, the rest of us will be held hostage to its agenda."

Christ was sold out for what? --- People will sell out for little. --- Properly phrased, people will sell themselves into slavery for "security".

If you were to ask most people. Do you want freedom with risk, or security with controls. I would venture to say, most would take security with controls --- sheeple
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gerald wrote:aedens ---There is much truth in the statement , --

"Unless and until Wall Street’s disproportionate ability to bully Washington is curtailed, the rest of us will be held hostage to its agenda."

Christ was sold out for what? --- People will sell out for little. --- Properly phrased, people will sell themselves into slavery for "security".

If you were to ask most people. Do you want freedom with risk, or security with controls. I would venture to say, most would take security with controls --- sheeple
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 012406.php

I respect your inclinations to much to dilute the conversation G. Few sites make you read a half hour or less to consider the point that we
think more than they care to manage themselves. I will tip my cards to this point that when seconds count they are minutes away.
I am sure you have some in military and law enforcement and medical services as I do so we are not naive to those districts
with characteristics in the bent of mind for or against the natural economic principles we are responsible for. The issue still is
the market or the government since there is no third solution and that is the rub my friend. What they linger in is the darkness
of rationalism in frigid probabilities to convince some, and even less to action as destitution and unconditional theft from repressionary
measures well worn here to encyclical events in this current turning.

medical bankruptsy - sticky wages - encyclical evidence

As you noted.... http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... ing#p21239

Life organized legalistically has thus shown its inability to defend itself against the corrosion of evil.
Alexander Solzhenistyn's final book on what we know and it is our fault to suggest another narrative.
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Affordable Care Act are in the process of being shifted from corporations and profitable small businesses to households, thus serving as a de facto tax increase. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-1 ... ing?page=2
And locally 130 more jobs just vanished and they never seen it coming.

Weather wise 140,000 plus are still with out power. One county over they state never
have we been like this. Crews from every where are fighting this frozen waste land.
As we do here we call three friends to call three friends to call three friends.
Maybe Sunday for some it may be restored.
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How much longer will people believe the Fed can prop up the stock market by keeping interest rates down? The 5 year interest is now about triple what it was at the low. I know I have posted this several times before, but I find it most amazing that people still seem to think the Fed sets an interest rate and so can protect the stock market in light of this data.
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at99sy
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vincecate wrote:How much longer will people believe the Fed can prop up the stock market by keeping interest rates down? The 5 year interest is now about triple what it was at the low. I know I have posted this several times before, but I find it most amazing that people still seem to think the Fed sets an interest rate and so can protect the stock market in light of this data.
The Fed must keep rates low if the Treasury is going to be required to maintain its current level of borrowing from them.As long as banking institutions can borrow essentially free or at least really cheap money the stock market will keep rising until it has no more reason to.

cheers and on to the new year!

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gerald wrote:
If you were to ask most people. Do you want freedom with risk, or security with controls. I would venture to say, most would take security with controls --- sheeple
In my classroom, I have a quote They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. by B. Franklin. It has sparked a few insightful conversations between themselves. It is not too surprising that the majority of the 9th graders look at safety over freedom as a motivating factor for their decision making process. Since as adolescents they have very little of what the see as tangible freedom, it is not so difficult for them to imagine less freedom as an minor influence on their lives.

Others see their future depending on freedom and are very uncomfortable with the idea of losing any of it. This inevitably leads to a conversation about equality, I have a sign on my wall with the word equality written on it within a circle and the "no" slash mark on it and the phrase "The most terrifying word EVER!" below it. By the end of the discussion they all understand why.

Far too many "civilized" peoples would happily give up freedom for safety. Where as the unfortunate and "uncivilized" peoples of the world are often ready to lay it all out on the line to attempt at regaining some freedom.

cheers

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at99sy wrote: The Fed must keep rates low if the Treasury is going to be required to maintain its current level of borrowing from them.As long as banking institutions can borrow essentially free or at least really cheap money the stock market will keep rising until it has no more reason to.
The thing is that interest rates are going up. So they are not able to do what they must do to prevent SHTF. The question is just when do people realize the Fed has lost control of interest rates. Also, as interest rates go up, the velocity of money will go up, which will make inflation. These are interesting times for sure.
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at99sy wrote: This inevitably leads to a conversation about equality, I have a sign on my wall with the word equality written on it within a circle and the "no" slash mark on it and the phrase "The most terrifying word EVER!" below it. By the end of the discussion they all understand why.
This is very politically incorrect. Aren't you afraid of being fired?

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The 10 year bond hit 3% today. It started the month at 2.81%. The month is not even done yet. About a couple more months at this rate to hit my 3.5% panic target. :-)

http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center ... data=yield
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