Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

[RWags]

Water and tools are important, but food is too. Which reminds me of this post from a couple years ago.

My wife wondered why I was buying a generator in the summer. I told her it was just in case. In case of what she asked? In case the power grid goes out. I told her it was like insurance. I bought it and hoped I would never have to use it. I left the generator in the shipping box and put it in the garage.

This post has some good advice about how to deal with family members who haven't gotten to the stage of accepting that collapse is coming.

I had read an old book from the 1970s that told how to store food according to the Mormons. I bought some food they recommended that could be both stored long term and provide complete protein, enough food to survive for about a year and about 20 5 gallon pails from Sherwin-Williams. To store the food properly, I rented a nitrogen gas cylinder. I put the hose from the cylinder into the bottom of the bucket, put the food into the bucket, then put the lid over it, turned the valve on, which displaced the air out of the bucket with nitrogen until a match would go out when placed near the bucket, pulled the hose out, and snapped the bucket shut. Then put it all in the back of the closet.

One day, my wife was cleaning out the closet and she asked what was in the buckets. I said it's food storage, just in case. Like just in case the grocery stores are closed and there is no food available. She looked at me like I was nuts. She said this doesn't belong in a closet. I said, well, we can put it in the garage but the summer heat will degrade it more than it being in this closet and if we really need it, someone might see us carrying buckets around when they don't have any food. It went into the garage.

This week we had an ice storm, similar to what you described. The roads were too icy to get to the grocery store safely, many grocery stores were closed, and those that were open had long lines and reduced hours (noon to 5 in this area).

I asked my wife whether she thought that food might be better in the back of the closet. I said what would you do if you were out of food and saw someone carrying a 5 gallon bucket? She said she would ask them for some food, then agreed that the back of the closet is now the best place for that food.

I almost forgot to mention. When I returned the nitrogen gas cylinder, the owner of the gas company asked what I was doing with it. I told him. I asked him if anyone had ever rented a nitrogen gas cylinder for that purpose. He said no, not in the 25 years he'd been in that business had he ever heard that.

The food storage isn't for the kind of crisis that happened in Texas this week. It's for the kind of crisis that could have happened if the power grid had gone down for months (the news says that it came dangerously close to doing that) or more likely the crisis that is coming our way after the financial system collapses.

I believe the food storage info I got was from a book by Howard Ruff. Howard Ruff was a Mormon who wrote some best selling books in the 1970s. The times might be kind of similar with the shortages and high inflation but the reaction to them seems to have been different because of the generational aspects. In the 1970s people like Ruff had lived through the Great Depression and World War II. Probably anybody looking for practical advice could get some by going back to what was written in the 1970s by the hero generation.

Also, the Mormons sell bulk stored food. I believe it is packed in nitrogen.

A food storage calculator can be found here: https://providentliving.com/preparednes ... /foodcalc/
You can enter the number of adults and/or children and number of weeks and it will calculate the number of lbs of grains/legumes/fats etc you need. This is super basic, but a great “apocalyptic” supply. Some items can be stored for 20+ years (wheat, sugar) and others have a much shorter shelf life. But I agree, it’s like insurance.

[aeden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68pDMuwFx-A bells

Ferals need water to get to you.
Food is a separate note and looks like you got a good view on it.
Power supply is what sorts out border facts. Water allows the movement of inter city ferals
to roam. Many here know what is coming if the lights stay on, or off for periods in intent.
The warning was clear since the 15 minutes Citys will last about that long with the idiots demsheviks running them.
Grain colony that thought it made it to civilization is an interesting view we ponder at their value-added points.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bal ... breaks-out
A view was forwarded how long to you let lunatic's with a torch burn houses down until it gets a shovel
to the head. The demsheviks allow them crayons for propaganda into the next cycle root kit with funny beer cans.

For the adults to consider we produce more than 183.6 Pounds protein per acre.
It was said The American Farmer produces enough for another 166 people to eat.
Not being rude but we are no longer care about your 15 minutes city as you allow Feral's to
wipe you out.
Why did he go after eve first was a better query.

We won't have to fight you.
We'll so weaken your economy until you'll fall like overripe fruit into our hands.

Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:20 am
Truman was correct in his assertion.
So then, as in September 1, 1945
To: D A MacArthur/C H Nimitz
From: H S Truman
Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by clean end!

We just started with CNN since we knew the swamp was unable to consider the working people who know and why.
We consider most of the Office fathoms this above cabinet level.

As with the lie about the laptop being "Russian disinformation" - it was so obvious at the time: I quit the Intercept because they
spread it and wouldn't let me write about it - *not one* media outlet that used Hamilton68 to shape "news" has acknowledged
Taibbi's reporting. 11:24 AM · Jan 30, 2023

These are not cloud constructs, you are not able to consider who told us what's coming from the older files.
It’s 2023, how willfully stupid does someone have to be.

How that working out for your this year as the sheep are rounded up for the esg butchering in building 401k.
1. The ideology and purpose of the propaganda campaign
2. The context in which the propaganda occurs
3. Identification of the propagandist
4. The structure of the propaganda organization
Much of the American right is hostile toward the press, but there’s not much research seeking to understand why, or what it means.
Funding from the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia University.
5. The target audience
6. Media utilization techniques
7. Special techniques to maximize effect
8. Audience reaction to various techniques
9. Counter propaganda, if present
10. Effects and evaluation

Told you these are not Democrats.
Enough facts for the Adults to know the Ferals are at too many levels.

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https://youtu.be/YafZkjiMpjU Even today.

https://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2012 ... eicher.jpg nothing will be new under the sun

[Higgenbotham]

Something came to mind about the 1970s versus today and also the point at which I saw maximum conflict between the generations as things transitioned. First I'll talk about the conflict, which occurred around 1992. That was a watershed year where the baby boomer generation was taking over from the hero generation (the year Bill Clinton got elected and I distinctly recall a political commentator on TV saying what got his attention more than anything as the Clintons celebrated their victory was "how young they looked"). I also saw it locally.

In the town I lived in, the baby boomer city manager and one of his sidekicks announced they were taking money from the federal government to rehabilitate some housing. It was called the scattered site housing program. Crappy houses like the ones shown in the photos of my recent posts were going to be purchased from insiders for too much money and rehabbed in an inefficient way, employing architects and all kinds of nonsense like that to get the cost up to about triple what it needed to be.

The older people in town were outraged. They organized and directed a protest at city hall. The night of the council meeting to "consider" this, city hall was packed. About 10 people got up and spoke against this boondoggle, all against it. One older man who owned a few rentals railed against the project needing an architect saying that when he and his wife rehabbed houses, "She was the architect and I did it." Someone else talked about how communism had just fallen in the former Soviet Union and here we were doing the same thing that had just failed. The crowd cheered. Most of the people who spoke were older, but there were two younger people I can recall (I was one of them).

Despite the protests, the corrupt city council approved the project. Today, the $248,000 or whatever it was per unit quoted recently in this thread just gets a mention and a few sighs of resignation in an online forum here or there.

But going back to the, "She was the architect and did it," those were the kind of people who were commonplace in the 1970s. When food prices went up in the 1970s and the middle class got squeezed, the older folks in our neighborhood planted gardens. My Dad who grew up on a farm, the thrifty German immigrants across the street, and so on. Thinking back on that, there was another aspect of that I never noted until today. None of their kids were interested.

[aeden]

Same issues when I talked to Antifa when the lock downs defused them of work early in as the blm and post wall street protests fomented issues known here on events driven by manipulation and crisis actors we did deal with here also. The point was rather simple as you treat us like we deserve to serve fries. That was replied to well work started for me in 1972 what's your actual point as I forked it out the stalls and carried milk buckets.
I pointed out three people who had work for them, so I called them out if they needed some to get by until they settle in. They relented later to the point only sorry to interrupt - your day - and issues we dismiss for our intent. The previous comment was we mice will eat the turtle. It appears it was the first-time life interrupted a reality they still appear not to regard with issues these damned democrats wish to soak in. They pulled the spark plug wire on that zone hive mind rather deftly and no I am not bitter. My daughter was up to her chin in death setting up covid triage wards in our zone as personal protection was 3d printed by our networked community and as you know we had in the front-line issues to deal with. It hit right after the New York comment Schumer popped of about racist and Airplanes we forumed. This was the noted in the forums when they interrupted the bus incoming from the left coast here and yea we said burning loot murder will meet a hard rain. After a few weeks of the inner city Feral's they get a few shot guns sounds before they entered some areas as fun time is over. I know they are smart enough to understand inner city issues compared to our flyover facts we told them as hard rain was a coming, and you are not judged today since work was offered that day so they could walk in dignity and community of the moment. Life is not easy and free trade grifters loot is not for the people since as posted JFK and IKE warned us what is to be. The Keys to this Blood a short time later explained it to a broader audience what these piggyback globalists had already been marching to long before many had been paying attention. As the intel pointed to antifa got over its skis with a training cell and got some hard rain that day also. The only segment ignored we see is Dr. Warners facts and issue's these halfwits brought upon themselves. As for this recent press issue the dead deserve the truth.
By the way He is risen.

13-week T-bill just sold for 5.13%. Exempt from state taxes and safer than CDs or Money Markets.

[Higgenbotham]

In the town I lived in, the baby boomer city manager and one of his sidekicks announced they were taking money from the federal government to rehabilitate some housing.

This is the city manager referred to above.

Former city manager in Buckeye, Flagstaff, busted in sex shop
Tribune Nov 7, 2007 Updated Oct 7, 2011

PHOENIX - The former city manager of Flagstaff and Buckeye has been arrested on suspicion of public sexual indecency at a Phoenix adult shop, Phoenix police said Wednesday.

Dave Wilcox, 60, and David Duran, 34, were engaged in "sexual activity" when a plainclothes officer spotted them inside a video-viewing booth on Nov. 1, police spokesman Sgt. Joel Tranter said.

An officer was conducting a routine walk-through at the shop and saw the men inside the booth. Phoenix city code allows only one person per booth in an adult store.

Wilcox was Flagstaff's longtime city manager before he joined Buckeye in January. He was ousted from the Buckeye job last month, but the Town Council kept him on the payroll as a consultant until Dec. 31. The Council did not explain the reasons for parting with Wilcox, who lives in Buckeye.

Wilcox identified himself as a consultant for the town when he was detained, Tranter told The Arizona Republic.

Wilcox and Duran were cited and released at the scene on suspicion of public sexual indecency, a misdemeanor that carries a maximum penalty of up to six months in jail and a $2,500 fine.

It was unclear is Wilcox had a lawyer, and his phone number is not listed. Tranter said he must appear in court by next Tuesday, but a court case was not yet listed online Wednesday.

https://www.eastvalleytribune.com/arizo ... 5cff0.html

Former Beloit city manager arrested
By Hillary Gavan
Daily News staff writer Nov 14, 2007

A former Beloit city manager was arrested in a Phoenix, Ariz. adult store, accused of engaging in sexual acts with a 34-year-old male in public.

Phoenix police allegedly found David Wilcox, 60, performing a sex act with David Duran, 34, at about 8:30 p.m. on Nov. 1 in video viewing booths at an adult store. Detectives found the two men during a routine walk-though of the business, according to Phoenix Police Sgt. Joel Tranter.

Tranter said detectives wearing plain clothes often walk through the Adult Shoppe to make sure there are no drug deals or live sex acts going on.

Wilcox and Duran were both cited for public sexual indecency, a misdemeanor in Arizona, Tranter said.

Wilcox, now the town manager of Buckeye, Ariz., was placed on paid leave on Wednesday after the incident became public.

Wilcox started his career as chief administrative officer in Missoula, Mont. He went on to become Beloit's city manager from 1986 to 1992. Wilcox was best known in Beloit for focusing on downtown revitalization and overseeing the startup of the city's new wastewater treatment plant, according to information provided by Beloit City Hall.

After he left Beloit, Wilcox became a city manager in Flagstaff, Ariz. for 14 years, until he became town manager in Buckeye, Ariz. in January.

The Buckeye Town Council, however, decided in October to change his employment status to consultant. The council did not explain why they changed his employment status.

Assistant City Manager Steve Gregg knew Wilcox, but didn't work very closely with him.

“I was an associate planner and was buried so deep in the planning department that I didn't work with him,” Gregg said. “He's been gone 15 years. That was a long time ago when he was here.”

According to Daily News archives, Wilcox was married to Jean Wilcox during his time in Beloit. In June of 1986 attorney Jean Wilcox worked for a local law firm. She earlier had worked in Montana, and served a stint in Beloit as president of the Family Services board of directors.

https://www.beloitdailynews.com/uncateg ... 75293.html

One good example of what's going to happen is to just look at California; it's just a couple of years ahead of the rest of the country. Most of the cities and counties went nuts during the big property bubble and now that's it's at least partway collapsed, depending on the region, one city after another is going broke. Even Los Angeles is getting close to bankruptcy.

Some may believe that won't happen in the other cities outside California that are more "conservative" but it will, based on my experience.

One possible reason is that most cities throughout the country have been run by city managers who use approximately the same principles regardless of what the conservative locals think. I lived in a conservative midwest city, population 35,000, that imported a city manager from the outside. This was in 1984. He proceeded to spend money and raise property taxes.

The locals didn't like the fact that he was spending more money, but they sure as hell didn't want their property taxes raised. Some local leaders (or rabble rousers) of the Hero Generation organized a demonstration on City Hall the night of a city council meeting to protest the tax increases. Hundreds showed up and the City Hall was filled to overflowing and those who couldn't fit in the building sat out in front until the meeting concluded. That was the end of the property tax increases and property tax rates per thousand assessed valuation went down 25% over the next 5 years. The councilors were voted in based on their record of supporting property tax decreases.

The city manager continued to spend money. The sewer plant was downtown along the river and emitted an awful odor due to the food processing industry in town. It was decided to build a new plant that would cost about $52 million. National engineering and construction firms were hired and cost was no object. The design chosen was to get rid of the odor once and for all. All sewage was pumped 5 miles outside the city to the new plant, processed, then pumped 5 miles back to the river. The final cost of construction ended up being $89 million, or about $2500 per resident, all paid for with municipal bonds.

I remember people in the Hero Generation, now deceased, telling me the city manager had "destroyed the city". One of these people was a retired lady, former office manager of a construction company, who read the city finances line item by line item. Little did I know and they never lived to see it. I watched them all die off one by one. In 2009, after the last collapse, I read a newspaper article saying the city was broke and would be shutting down if they didn't receive aid from the state. They got some aid and continued operations. But I can't be optimistic that at least this city won't follow in the footsteps of what is happening in California, as you predict.

A check of old newspaper archives shows that Wilcox assumed the City Manager position in Beloit on February 1, 1986, not in 1984 as my post from 2012 stated.

[Higgenbotham]

I think your dark ages theme points out some stark realities on ethics...

Back in late 2011 I posted:

My thesis is that a Dark Age scale population reduction can only come about through large scale individual moral and institutional failure.

I think it has to be, at its root, an ethics problem. There are a lot of commonalities to, let's say, the pervasive belief that it is acceptable for an institution not to be Triple A, not to have pristine credit. It's become acceptable, even considered preferable, not to be or exhibit pristine anything on both an individual and institutional level.

Even if I'm right that pervasive individual moral and institutional failure are the root causes of a dark age, it's still a judgement call as to how much is too much. I think it's gone too far, particularly with the Federal Reserve, but my opinion means nothing in the big picture.

Do posts like the above post discussing the former Beloit City Manager exhibit (pun intended) that things have gone further than a typical turning and more resemble the moral and institutional failure before a dark age? I think so, but maybe I am wrong.

[Higgenbotham]

Let's look at the power tools discussion from another angle with respect to a dark age. The first angle previously discussed was to be aware of the degradation of quality that has occurred.

Another angle, though, is how and why the degradation in quality occurred and to whose benefit. I'm not going to do a research project in that regard but will instead just throw out a few generalities that probably apply because they do in fact apply in similar situations that I have knowledge of. One poster in the woodworking forum previously linked to noted that the big box hardware stores have been stocking their own cheaper name brand versions which include plastic parts instead of metal, etc. It would be probable without really looking that those tools were put out there in that way to mislead consumers into thinking they were getting the same thing as the quality version at a cheaper price because the biggest big box can offer lower prices on volume. It would be probable without really looking that this strategy was implemented by some MBA who has seen similar. It would be probable without really looking that this and similar "business and marketing strategies" or what have you at least somewhat explain how the founders of these companies became billionaires and the managers and stock holders became millionaires. It's not because they came up with something that was actually better than what previously existed; it was in fact worse.

[Higgenbotham]

All sewage was pumped 5 miles outside the city to the new plant, processed, then pumped 5 miles back to the river.

This isn't accurate. Looking at the city's web site, the main pumping station is 2.5 miles from the wastewater treatment plant. According to an elevation map separate from their web site, the main pumping station has an elevation about 50 feet below the wastewater treatment plant. According to the city's web site, once treated, it is gravity fed back into the river.

[Guest]

The initial worldwide kill rate during the first couple decades following the financial panic will exceed 90%. The global population will be in the range of a few tens of millions when the bottom is hit in two or three centuries. Similar to the last dark age, the world's largest cities will have a population on the order of 25,000 and a large town will be 1,000.

Not centuries, 1-2 years. Max. The average African lives off of foreign food donations. The average illegal or urban dweller, welfare. Look at the state of the US medical system. It's horrible. There will be no ERs. The cities will burn. They're burning now. I know a veterinarian and he knows how to treat humans, if necessary. If I get shot, I'm driving to his house (or I'll send someone to get him) to get my wounds dressed.

Antibiotic resistant bacteria. Infection will kill most of the population, especially waterborne.

Good luck and good night.

[aeden]

The exact same evil entity. And it's whispering the exact same things.

The Rabbi is correct as the media whistles the same tune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TMhHIqfrrA&t=30s
They come back worse.
Matthew 12:45 True.
Retards in a plain and simple terms.

Suffer irreparable harm is the plan EV on down. Lunatics normalcy bias is deeper than the lies told to Eve
and the EV cults who know it's a lie also. Tech they cannot even fathom unleashed on the broken in the fatal deceit.