Higgenbotham wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:09 pm
aeden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:17 pm
Your indications match the variations seen. In 1979 it was the dark ages as CNC came in.
Yes, that was part of what sent Michigan and Rockford, Illinois over the cliff. I think Rockford was the machine tool capital of the US prior to that and its economy and social fabric got blown to smithereens.
The area referred to above was just north of Rockford and affected similarly. The stories told in the mid to late 1980s were about a manufacturing complex a mile or so away that employed 5,000 in the 1960s. People walked to work. The neighborhoods were law abiding and well maintained.
When 5,000 jobs leave an area where most of the former employees live within, best guess, a 3 mile radius that may encompass a population of 20,000, that left a void that got filled in various ways, some as described.
In this case, if there was a tenant who was doing small time drug dealing to supplement their income...
(At this point, a break for an aside. The vernacular on the street at that time for discussing income from drug dealing or perhaps other illegal activities was for a prospective tenant to show their income on the application, then to say to me, "But I have other income." My answer was, "I'm not interested in that kind of income." Most people knew I wasn't anyway, but that was how it was clarified that they were small time drug dealers or what have you and they did not want to rent from me.)
...then I wanted to eventually get around to doing an eviction. That fact would not be discussed in that way. It might be that I would let them get behind in their rent.
City Hall was still open, the Courthouse was still open, etc. Maybe the police were no longer patrolling that block and that sort of sent a message. There wasn't really much incentive for them to do so. Industry had abandoned that area, most of the income was from transfer payments and there was still a bit of income coming in to workers and retirees who had not yet left the neighborhood and whose employers had not left the city. Taxes were at a low level as were city services. And now there was a drug house on the block being run by a family with a history of being in trouble with the law. But the Courthouse was still open and it seemed like it was expected that someone would go there and get an eviction order signed by the judge and pay the fee (most importantly) even though in that area getting it enforced was a joke. Once an order was signed, there were 3 parties involved besides the tenant - the official law, the gang that had the drug house, and the landlord - and they began to blindly divvy up the job of law enforcement amongst each other. I rarely interacted with the police, but one police officer told me that it was good that I had evicted a drug dealer because, "We knew they were dealing, but we couldn't catch them." Well, when he said that, that was about the time that one of the neighbors told me the police were doing regular patrols of the street again. That allowed me to peek through the blindfold a little bit. But there was another aspect to that story. When the stragglers came by, I would say, "Up to the corner, two blocks over (while pointing), northwest corner." Typical reply was, "Thanks, man." I wasn't eradicating anything, just moving it around and making it some other landlord's problem for profit. And making sure I didn't get eradicated myself. That allowed the gang to peek through their blindfold a little. I learned that the sheriff's office 20 miles up the road at the county seat would let me handle the details of getting the tenant out and when I heard that they didn't hear any more from me or anybody else. We could all see a little better.
I can imagine a lot of different scenarios as the factors of municipalities going broke, corporations going bankrupt, police getting defunded, prisons getting emptied, transfer payments stopping and a drug dependent population interact with each other, and what I saw on a very small scale happens on a much bigger scale.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.