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"I certainly agree that the current system is not working, because it's not delivering safe aircraft."

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"In 1991, a group of scientists met in Racine, Wisconsin, to discuss the effects of living in what many describe as a sea of artificial oestrogens, and issued something called the Wingspread Statement: ‘The concentrations of a number of synthetic hormone agonists and antagonists measured in the US human population today are well within the range and dosages at which effects are seen in wildlife populations,’ the scientists warned.

‘Unless the environmental load of synthetic hormone disruptors is abated and controlled, large-scale dysfunction at the population level is possible’ – which would seem to imply that social sexual choices and behaviour could be affected by exposure.

‘Many wildlife populations are already affected by these compounds,’ the scientists continued. ‘The impacts include thyroid dysfunction in birds and fish; decreased fertility in birds, fish, shellfish and mammals; decreased hatching success in birds, fish and turtles; gross birth deformities in birds, fish and turtles; [...] demasculinization and feminization in male fish, birds and mammals; defeminization and masculinization of female fish and birds; and compromised immune systems in birds and mammals.’

Five years later, Theo Colborn, Dianne Dumanoski and John Peterson Myers came out with the book Our Stolen Future, establishing that hormone effects were not only well-documented, but also subtler and more widespread than anyone had anticipated."
I don't know if this report is still valid, but it appears the book's premise is still difficult to prove.
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Apanel of experts convened to study a class of environmental contaminants known as "endocrine disrupters" has concluded that not enough is known about them to determine whether they cause health problems at the low levels in which they typically occur in the environment.

The panel, convened by the National Research Council at the request of Federal agencies and Congress, said in its report released Tuesday that as yet there is insufficient evidence to say the chemicals are causing human cancers and other problems, like infertility. While high concentrations of such compounds, like the hormone diethylstilbesterol and the pesticide DDT, can be harmful to health, the panel wrote, "the extent of harm caused by exposure to these compounds in concentrations that are common in the environment is debated."
No easy answers about a class of contaminants.

In fact, the panel seemed to take pains to refer to the compounds not as endocrine disrupters but rather as "hormonally active agents." The experts said much more research was needed before the dangers of day-to-day exposures to the contaminants can be ascertained but added that scientists did not agree on what exposure levels should be studied or even how to screen for the compounds and their possible influences in people.

"This field is rife with uncertainty," said Dr. Ernst Knobil, who was chairman of the panel. Dr. Knobil, a professor in the medical school at the University of Texas-Houston Health Science Center, added, "It's an exceedingly complex environmental issue and there are no easy answers."

Concerns about endocrine disrupters have been growing for nearly a decade based on a series of observations and deductions. Certain pesticides, like DDT and PCB's and chemicals in plastics, mimic the hormone estrogen. Wildlife that had been exposed to the chemicals in high concentrations were harmed. And women whose mothers had taken high doses of the synthetic estrogen diethylstilbesterol when they were pregnant -- in the hope of preventing miscarriages -- developed vaginal cancers.

The fear was that as use of these chemicals rose, humans were being harmed in subtle and not-so-subtle ways.

The panel's report was requested four years ago by Congress, the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of the Interior and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Congress has directed the Environmental Protection Agency to screen compounds for hormonal effects, and today the agency praised the council's report, especially its endorsement of screening and its call for additional research.

"It's a very important report," said J. Charles Fox, who is an assistant administrator there. "It is very consistent with the research agenda we have developed and in fact the report endorses many of the recommendations that we have developed to deal with the potential threat to health and the environment."

The report elicited mixed reactions from scientists, ranging from praise by those who were concerned about the compounds to withering criticism from skeptics of the endocrine disrupter hypothesis.

"I'm amazed and I'm pleased," said Dr. Theo Colborn, a senior program scientist at the World Wildlife Fund and whose book, "Our Endangered Future," helped make "endocrine disrupters" a national issue. She said she was delighted that the expert panel did not dismiss suspicions about endocrine disrupters and that it agreed with her that at high doses, the chemicals can injure people and animals. With the evidence at hand, she said, it is wise to follow the precautionary principle: limit exposure as much as possible while research continues.

"This is a growing field," Dr. Colborn said. "Just because we don't have the evidence does not mean there are no effects."

By contrast, Dr. Elizabeth M. Whelan, president of the American Council on Science and Health, said she was dismayed by the report. The endocrine disrupter hypothesis, she said, "has never been grounded in any reality." It is easy to call for more research in the absence of evidence of danger, she said. But, she added, that does not help people who need to know if they should, or should not, be worried about the food they eat, the water they drink, the air they breathe, and the plastics they use.

"I am now convinced that one of the major problems is that scientists are unwilling to use the four-letter word, 'safe.' " Dr. Whelan said. The council is mostly financed by foundations but also receives some of its money from industry groups.

Committee members emphasized that they were a diverse group, and said they had struggled to write a report that all could endorse.

"It is signed off by the most ardent advocates as well as the most ardent objectors," of the endocrine-disrupter hypothesis, Dr. Knobil said.

In chapter after chapter, the report examines suspicions about the chemicals, and evidence for the suspicions. In the process, it raises questions about virtually every aspect of the field, starting with the description of the chemicals themselves.

Dr. Knobil explained that even when high doses of the chemicals elicited adverse health effects, it was never clear that the effects were due to endocrine hormone disruptions. DDT, for example thinned the eggshells of birds. "What is the endocrinologic basis of eggshell thinning?" Dr. Knobil asked. "No one has come up with one yet.

"If you don't know the mechanism, you can't ascribe the effect to endocrine disruption," Dr. Knobil said. The group decided to call the chemicals "hormonally active agents," instead. They defined such chemicals as any that had hormonal effects in a laboratory test.

A problem that plagued the group was how to deal with questions of exposure level. In general, the chemicals are present in the environment in minuscule quantities whereas the known effects occurred at high concentrations. Moreover, the human body is virtually awash in a sea of naturally occurring hormonally active agents that are present in much greater amounts than the chemicals in question. These range from hormones made by the body, like estrogen and testosterone, to hormones in pills, like birth control pills, to hormone-like substances in plants that people eat.

It is possible that chemicals like pesticides and chemicals in plastics interact with these much more abundant hormones in the body, but no one can say for sure, the report said.

"We need some quantitative assessments of these interactions," Dr. Knobil said, "and then we need to come to informed and intelligent conclusions about what the risks are."

The difficulties in getting a handle on the risks posed by the chemicals extended from epidemiology to basic biochemistry.

The chapter of the report on "Screening and Monitoring" began: "There are no generally accepted, validated methods to screen for or monitor exposure to chemicals that could cause adverse hormonal activity -- largely because of the complexity of the endocrine system."

The chapter on "Neurological Effects" states in its introduction that some scientists proposed that the chemicals act on fetuses and cause neurological damage. But, the group wrote: "In humans, particularly, a number of difficulties are associated with the investigation" of neurological effects, "including the recognition that such effects may be quite subtle, and the possibly long delay between exposure and outcome."

One of the most often cited concerns about the chemicals is that they are causing epidemics of breast cancer and male reproductive system problems, including hypospadia, in which the urethra opens at the bottom rather than the top of the penis, undescended testes, and lowered sperm counts.

The panel wrote that studies to date did not support an association between exposure to the chemicals and breast cancer in women or hypospadia, or undescended testes in men. The sperm data, the group concluded, were "controversial." The panel members wrote in that they had not agreed among themselves about whether sperm counts really were declining.

If the public really does want to get definitive answers to the questions of whether endocrine disrupters are a major public health threat, the studies that would be necessary could last for decades and require huge investments from the Federal government. Is it the best way to spend resources?

That is not a question for his group, Dr. Knobil said. That, he said, "is a matter for policymakers to decide."

The report can be obtained from the Academy at www.nationalacademies.org. Printed copies of the report may be obtained from the National Academy Press, 2101 Constitution Avenue N.W., Washington, 20418.
I would put it as, "The weight of the evidence seems to suggest to me..." I read the book in 1996 when it first came out. In the 28 years since, the weight of the evidence seems to suggest to me that the premise of the book is correct. The fact that it can't be proven is a poor argument for anybody (as in a scientist) to make because that's self-evident. That's pretty much like everything else that I bring up in this Dark Age Hovel, or don't bring up if the weight of the evidence does not seem to suggest to me...

The weight of the evidence falls into 3 main categories - all of which have been mentioned at various times: increase in sexual confusion, increase in fertility problems, and increasing weight across all species - all of which can be attributed to other causes.
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Animals Getting Fatter Too

There's no question that humans have been getting bigger and bigger, and now it seems that animals living near us are coming along for the ride. A new study of 12 distinct populations of eight different mammals -- including feral rats, lab animals and domestic pets -- shows that they, too, have been gaining weight over the last several decades.

Nov. 25, 2010, 7:47 AM CST / Source: Discovery Channel
By Jessica Marshall

There's no question that humans have been getting bigger and bigger, and now it seems that animals living near us are coming along for the ride. A new study of 12 distinct populations of eight different mammals -- including feral rats, lab animals and domestic pets -- shows that they, too, have been gaining weight over the last several decades.

"It could be that for every one of these populations, there's a different reason why their weights are going up," said study lead author David Allison of the University of Alabama at Birmingham, who published the findings today in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B. "It could also be that within each, there are different reasons. What's exciting to speculate about is, could there be some factor that is affecting all of these?"

Indeed, some of the findings appear straightforward. Rats living on the streets of Baltimore were 40 percent heavier in 2006 than in 1948 probably at least partly because the scraps they are finding to eat are more plentiful and richer or because cats tend to prefer smaller rats. Likewise, we may be more prone to overfeed our house cats and dogs these days.

But other findings are more mysterious. Rats, mice and primates (four types were analyzed in this study) in laboratories are fed a highly controlled, known diet that has remained relatively constant over time. Why are these animals getting fatter?

Perhaps for some reason they're choosing to eat more of what they are offered or are somehow changing how they metabolize it, he said.

Allison pointed out at least three potential contributions to this and the other observations: endocrine disrupting chemicals, pathogens such as a virus, and/or changes in temperature where the animals are kept.
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna40370160
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. repeatedly suggested that chemicals in water are impacting sexuality of children

By Abby Turner and Andrew Kaczynski, CNN
Updated 9:28 AM EDT, Thu July 13, 2023

Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has a history of repeatedly sharing unfounded conspiracies that man-made chemicals in the environment could be making children gay or transgender and causing the feminization of boys and masculinization of girls.

Experts dispute the claims from Kennedy, an environmental lawyer and anti-vaccine activist, and told CNN’s KFile his theories that “sexual identification” and “gender confusion” among children could be from their exposure to “endocrine disruptors” found in the environment are completely unfounded.

“I want to just pursue just one question on these, you know, the other endocrine disruptors because our children now, you know, we’re seeing these impacts that people suspect are very different than in ages past about sexual identification among children and sexual confusion, gender confusion,” Kennedy said on his podcast in June last year. “These kinds of issues that are very, very controversial today.”

Endocrine disruptors are chemicals that interfere with the body’s hormones and endocrine system, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. Such chemicals are commonly found in pesticides and plastic, and can affect reproductive functions and increase the risk of obesity. Kennedy on multiple occasions misconstrued endocrine disruptors’ studied ability to cause some male frogs to become female and produce viable eggs, suggesting that these chemicals could have similar effects on children and change their sexuality.

CNN spoke to multiple experts who said there is no link between endocrine disruptors and children’s gender and sexuality. While sex in in frogs is determined by environmental factors such as temperature and chemicals, Dr. Andrea Gore, professor of pharmacology and toxicology at University of Texas at Austin, said the sex of humans is determined at the moment of conception, and cannot later be altered by endocrine-disrupting chemicals.

The baseless claim that chemicals – particularly in tap water – could turn people gay has gained popularity with conspiracy theorists over the years, most memorably with conservative radio host Alex Jones, who said chemicals in the water were “turning the friggin’ frogs gay.”

“Mr. Kennedy’s remarks are being mischaracterized. He is not claiming that endocrine disruptors are the only or main cause of gender dysphoria,” a Kennedy campaign spokesperson said in a statement to CNN. “He is merely suggesting that, given copious research on the effects on other vertebrates, this possibility deserves further research.”
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/13/politics ... index.html

This article in my opinion is serving as a baseless attack on RFK Jr and Alex Jones, both of whom are very threatening to the establishment at this time. It shows how desperate the establishment is getting.

"Dr. Andrea Gore, professor of pharmacology and toxicology at University of Texas at Austin, said the sex of humans is determined at the moment of conception, and cannot later be altered by endocrine-disrupting chemicals."

Uh, no kidding. This woman must be a genius.

"The baseless claim that chemicals – particularly in tap water – could turn people gay has gained popularity with conspiracy theorists over the years, most memorably with conservative radio host Alex Jones, who said chemicals in the water were “turning the friggin’ frogs gay.”

No, that's not what people are saying. The effects are in the womb during fetal development.
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A record number of Americans can't afford their rent. Lawmakers are scrambling to help
A new Harvard University study found that half of U.S. renters are paying nearly a third of their income on rent

By JESSE BEDAYN Associated Press and MICHAEL CASEY /REPORT FOR AMERICA Associated Press
February 6, 2024, 11:21 PM

DENVER -- Single mom Caitlyn Colbert watched as rent for her two-bedroom apartment doubled, then tripled and then quadrupled over a decade in Denver — from $750 to $3,374 last year.

Every month, like millions of Americans, Colbert juggled her costs. Pay rent or swim team fees for one of her three kids. Rent or school supplies. Rent or groceries. Colbert, a social worker who helps people stay financially afloat, would often arrive home to notices giving her 30 days to pay rent and a late fee or face eviction.

“Every month you just gotta budget and then you still fall short,” she said, adding what became a monthly refrain: “Well, this month at least we have $13 left.”

Millions of Americans, especially people of color, are facing those same, painful decisions as a record number struggle with unaffordable rent increases, a crisis fueled by rising prices from inflation, a shortage of affordable housing and the end of pandemic relief.

The latest data from the Harvard Joint Center for Housing Studies, released in January, found that a record high 22.4 million renter households — or half of renters nationwide — were spending more than 30% of their income on rent in 2022. The number of affordable units — with rents under $600 — also dropped to 7.2 million that year, 2.1 million fewer than a decade earlier.

Those factors contributed to a dramatic rise in eviction filings and a record number of people becoming homeless.

“It’s one of the worst years we’ve ever seen,” said Whitney Airgood-Obrycki, a senior research associate at the Harvard center, who added that the level of cost-burdened households in 2022 had not been seen since the Great Recession in 2008, when 10 million Americans lost their homes to foreclosure.

After failing to make a significant dent in the problem over the last decade, state and federal lawmakers across the U.S. are making housing a priority in 2024 and throwing the kitchen sink at the issue — including proposals to enact eviction protections, institute zoning reforms, cap annual rent increases and dedicate tens of billions of dollars toward building more housing.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireSto ... -107013779

Lawmakers scrambling to help should help to make the problem worse.
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Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:33 pm
"The baseless claim that chemicals – particularly in tap water – could turn people gay has gained popularity with conspiracy theorists over the years, most memorably with conservative radio host Alex Jones, who said chemicals in the water were “turning the friggin’ frogs gay.”

No, that's not what people are saying. The effects are in the womb during fetal development.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TMhHIqfrrA&t=30s

aeden offered this several months ago. The meat of the discussion starts around 3:40. I didn't dismiss this. Not that it can't all be related whereby the synthetic chemicals allow these spirits to take hold with a greater vengeance. The video suggests they return with a greater vengeance.
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We started in earnest in 2019 to secure what they more than ignored.
That topic was trended since 2003 from the Cationic Polymers discussions we had
with telemetry from Oceanic oxygen deprivations zones.
I started in the CFR files after one of most massive bankruptcy in American
History and PSM with studies to what could not be stopped.
This covers in the forums some what later the Federal lawsuit to Contracts.
That case we won and today we would not given the Agency Issue.
Taxpayers are unable to discern what time it actually is.

Water Wheat Weather will just confuse the Sheep pens well advanced.
I do think what survives will have to understand they do not even pretend to care since Truman's warning also.
The march sweeps will be instructive. I pray your move went very well and God Bless.
Jack would be my President and Martin my Pastor and the Word is Life they cannot understand.
They fall today like Leaves.

https://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=48213#p48213 We may have saved a few to have enough protein to survive.
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Higgenbotham wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:33 pm
No, that's not what people are saying. The effects are in the womb during fetal development.
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Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:59 am
I would put it as, "The weight of the evidence seems to suggest to me..." I read the book in 1996 when it first came out. In the 28 years since, the weight of the evidence seems to suggest to me that the premise of the book is correct. The fact that it can't be proven is a poor argument for anybody (as in a scientist) to make because that's self-evident. That's pretty much like everything else that I bring up in this Dark Age Hovel, or don't bring up if the weight of the evidence does not seem to suggest to me...

The weight of the evidence falls into 3 main categories - all of which have been mentioned at various times: increase in sexual confusion, increase in fertility problems, and increasing weight across all species - all of which can be attributed to other causes.
I'm going through a 1998 interview with Theo Colburn tonight which I have never read before. There are parts of the interview that are much more interesting than what I will quote here, but I'm posting it due to the similarity to what I wrote this morning.
DH: You tend to focus a lot on the child, on the fetus. A lot of this debate is centered around that. Is that because of what the focus groups found most effective?

TC: No. Because that is the truth. The whole problem lies during fetal and embryonic development: the early stages of development. This is what we discovered in the wildlife. All we are doing is telling the truth. These chemicals affect the very simplest forms of life, which is the single cells that begin to split and form individuals, whether it is a bird, a fish, a horse, a human being.

The problem is that our testing up until now has always been on adult animals. Our message is definitely on what has happened to the prenatal individual or the individual in the egg, and early life stages, because this is where the chemicals have their greatest effect. At extremely low concentrations. Not because focus groups told us to, believe me. This is just the science, the way the science has fallen. This is transgenerational exposure that we are talking about.

DH: It is very clear, in talking to a lot of people, that not everyone is convinced of the science yet. They feel that it is a good hypothesis, but they are not convinced that we have been able to prove the mechanism yet or firmly establish this with a degree of scientific proof that they are comfortable with.

TC: They are probably demanding too much. Remember, the endocrine system is extremely complex. It is not just sex hormones. It is the thyroid hormones. It is things called prostaglandins, which I am sure you have heard of. It involves neurotransmitters. It involves so much -- enzymes -- that to understand every mechanism of action is going to be impossible.

We have enough evidence about the mechanisms of action of some of these chemicals, and the processes that take place, that we can act now and move now. There is enough evidence to take certain chemicals off the market today. And we should. But we are not moving on that.

Using what is called the "weight of evidence" approach, it is time to do something and we should do it soon. So I think that is becoming a weaker argument as the weight of evidence piles up. And believe me, my filing cabinets are overflowing with this kind of information.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontlin ... lborn.html

The thing is, nothing will be done. It's a new dark age.
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Let's look at the problem that we know that hypospadias is occurring in one in a hundred boys. Hypospadias is a condition where the urethra doesn't come out of the end of the penis. The more severe form of hypospadias is where the urethra comes out of the scrotum. This is increasing. This event, that causes this problem, can only happen between days 56 and 84 during gestation. That is, 56 days after conception up to the 84th day is when that problem is laid down. Something interfered with the hormonal message at that time to tell that penis to develop properly with the urethra.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontlin ... lborn.html

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https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Tem ... _296223206

Here's an example. We can't prove the chemicals are doing this. It may be that low birth weight correlates with this, and low birth weights are increasing due to other factors. Or a dozen other things I'm not aware of.

Also, whereas Colburn says in the interview that she looks at the big picture, the picture I'm looking at is even bigger and this issue (synthetic chemicals in general, not this specific thing) constitutes less than half a percent of what I read, and probably much less than that. But over time I've gotten an impression as I skim the articles and studies because, whereas multiple causes can enter into any specific scenario, the one thing they seem to have in common is synthetic chemical exposure. I'm not pounding the table, have no vested interest, and know nothing will be done. It's just part of a long list of items that form the larger picture that is the topic at hand.
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