https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comme ... t/m8200bh/A dissipative system, as is a human civilization, has really two stages; to grow or to collapse. Nature doesn't really do steady-state, it is an ever evolving equilibrium, and growth is how to stay on top of this always evolving equilibrium.
And reason allowed us to grow way out of balance.
We can't "reason" ourselves out of the imperative to grow because we need that growth to sustain all previous human advances that are currently embedded in our systems. Growth sustains.
So yeah, some of us do know that we're racing for collapse. And that what will make us collapse are the efforts we are making to not be currently collapsing.
There is simply no way out of this.
This idea is implicit within some of what is posted here. It's how far you are from steady state that will determine the nature of the collapse, in my opinion. When I drew the red line, it should have terminated below the black line.
Higgenbotham wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:10 pm
My guess as to what the Central Bankers have accomplished is to move the path of the black line to be more like the path of the red line.