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John have you seen this ? maybe this is more legitimate regarding what is going on.
You may need to hit the subtitle icon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkzXTgslFNE

things that make you go hmmm ---
anonymous-hacks-department-justice-threatens-release-secret-doj-information

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-2 ... n-warns-th

interesting--- hmmmm
aaron_swartz_protest_anonymous_hacks_government_websites_installs_asteroids
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense ... roids.html

John - On your "state of the world" you list W.Europe as low risk for the next 6 - 12 months. Really? It is getting to look a little dicey. IMHO

France ---

The crisis of confidence has reached a point where the security service of the Elysée fears a military attempt on the life of the President of the Republic. Thus, January 9, at the President’s address to the French armed forces, at the 12th regiment of Cuirassiers d’Orléans base, the Elysée required the neutralization of weapons. The firing pins of assault rifles and machine guns were removed, and pistols were also incapacitated. Ammunition was confiscated and stored in sealed bags. Such a measure had not been taken since the Algerian crisis, sixty years prior.”

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/01/2 ... is-armies/

gerald wrote:John - On your "state of the world" you list W.Europe as low risk for the next 6 - 12 months. Really? It is getting to look a little dicey. IMHO

So far, it's all talk and little action.

In thinking through this "revolution" thing, I wonder about the effect of contemporary communication on this issue.

In the past an event could occur and people would learn of it days, weeks, or months later ( if ever ), due to the limited and controlled level of information. The response might have been, it is over, so what, what can we do about it, unless of course, it simmers and later leads to revolt.

Today, with instant communication, the Internet, camera/phones etc. people can push information uncensored or verified and create an incident.
This creates a multifaceted problem -- what is true/valid vs fabricated -- who to believe -- the individual or the state --- they all have agendas. And information it's has value.
Another issue is, are there more, "revolution inspiring events" now, then in the past? Or does communication just make it seem so? hmmmm

Maybe, --we are we simply waiting for an Archduke Franz Ferdinand event. To Quote Otto von Bismarck, "One day the great European War will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans."
Humans seem quit irraional,-- hmmmm

gerald wrote:In thinking through this "revolution" thing, I wonder about the effect of contemporary communication on this issue.

In the past an event could occur and people would learn of it days, weeks, or months later ( if ever ), due to the limited and controlled level of information. The response might have been, it is over, so what, what can we do about it, unless of course, it simmers and later leads to revolt.

Today, with instant communication, the Internet, camera/phones etc. people can push information uncensored or verified and create an incident.
This creates a multifaceted problem -- what is true/valid vs fabricated -- who to believe -- the individual or the state --- they all have agendas. And information it's has value.
Another issue is, are there more, "revolution inspiring events" now, then in the past? Or does communication just make it seem so? hmmmm

Maybe, --we are we simply waiting for an Archduke Franz Ferdinand event. To Quote Otto von Bismarck, "One day the great European War will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans."
Humans seem quit irraional,-- hmmmm

Interesting --

from http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-3 ... tic-fringe

The Rise Of America's Lunatic Fringe

"Anyone who spends any amount of time on the internet has seen them.

They are the moonbats, the wingnuts, the whackjobs, the Conspiratorialists. They are America’s new Lunatic Fringe, and their numbers are growing.

While the rise of the internet fed a segment of society that has always existed, when the cyberworld became an increasingly important source both of entertainment and information, an entirely new demographic joined what was already amongst us.

Who are they and what do they believe? The Lunatic Fringe is not uniform in either its background or beliefs. Some clearly seem to be emotionally disturbed. Some are racist and hateful. Others are simply naïve and gullible, or uninformed. Still more are frustrated by an economy and a government that are behaving out of whack with what most people expected from life and from leadership. They want to believe America stands for something noble, but it is increasingly felt by them that it does not. They are confused, frustrated, and disappointed. They feel violated and betrayed. They grow angrier by the day. Some harbor a diffuse rage which could blow at any time."

From the comment section

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:59 | 3201359aerojet

"It's not supposed to be a research paper, it is an attempt to capture a snapshot of what is currently taking place in the US--it is capturing the revolutionary mood that the regular people are in because our government has completely and utterly failed us. So the choice is either broad reform and real solutions or we soon reach the point of no return. The whole thing only awaits a spark at this point; for example, if cops in NY actually had begun seizing newly outlawed firearms frome people in large numbers. But that didn't happen. No matter, the spark could be almost anything now. There is unbelievable anger felt by so many people because they know that they worked hard and still got screwed and they feel betrayed and betrayal causes hatred, then violence."

Greece's finance minister was sent a bullet and a death threat from a group protesting home foreclosures, police officials said on Monday, in the latest incident to raise fears of growing political violence.

The package was sent by a little-known group called "Cretan Revolution", which warned the minister against any efforts to seize homes and evict homeowners, police sources said. The group sent similar letters to tax offices in Crete last week.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-0 ... ullet-mail

John, and Europe is still "Low risk" maybe it should be "Medium"

gerald wrote:John, and Europe is still "Low risk" maybe it should be "Medium"

What about America? After the Newtown massacre should that also be "Medium"?

John wrote:

gerald wrote:John, and Europe is still "Low risk" maybe it should be "Medium"

What about America? After the Newtown massacre should that also be "Medium"?

From a Higgenbotham post Feb 2 on "Financial topics"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTdhVxva5KU
"Instability is already happening, as G points out in his thread.
I can wait but the country can't. Just a shot away."

The above link is from Upper New York state, it is a meeting about guns and the the law ,the authorities not stating what the penalties are for non compliance, issues raised such as detention camps for citizens, and --- the people laughing at the authorities.

Hmmm, -- considering gun and ammo sales, --- growth of militias, http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03 ... f-militias? silly things like --- Anonymous Claims It Hacked Fed, Releases Confidential Banker Information http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-0 ... nformation. Add unemployment, rising costs due to the devaluation of the dollar, distrust in government, -- "53% think that the federal government threatens their own personal rights and freedoms" http://www.people-press.org/2013/01/31/ ... -rights/-- Uncle Sam’s Retirement Account Stealing Plans Gain Steam,
new government proposals are putting some fire behind the idea that your money might as well be Uncle Sam’s money,
http://www.offthegridnews.com/2012/11/2 ... ain-steam/.

If there is any validity in the above, the US is getting to look like pre-revoulutionary France, it slowly built up and then, Bam ! --- may be the US should be "Medium"

But of course all of the above is BS

And of course then there are the stupid postings from other sites, which appear to be getting more common, such as --


Thomas

"When the authorities tossed out the Rule of Law they did not think through the consequences of a system based on anarchy. Either the bankers and politicians follow the same laws as us or we will make up our own."

azzhatter

"Wake me up when Geithner takes one between the eyes"

hmmmm