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I wouldn’t think environmental terrorists would be able to place a 100 Kg bomb. Bombs reek of a state actor. Iran doesn’t look involved in this one. North Korea is distant. The US likely has the capability along with Russia. I can’t see a US motivation, but sure they can be twisted. Russia has been talking energy blocking Europe for a while, and might possibly want to blame the mysterious saboteurs. Russian submarine and support ships have been active in the area, but they are always active in the area.

I am leaning towards blaming Russia, but am hardly sure. I sympathize a lot with Xeraphim on this one.

Russia has made repeated threats to disrupt Europe’s energy supplies this winter to bully the West into dropping its support for Ukraine. The likelihood of attacks taking place against pipelines even prompted the Biden administration to alert the German government, which has relied heavily on Russia for its energy needs, to take the appropriate precautions.

The possibility of Russia carrying out such an attack, moreover, was flagged up earlier this year by Admiral Sir Tony Radakin, the head of Britain’s Armed Forces, when he warned of the “phenomenal increase in Russian submarine and underwater activity in the past 20 years” which has been initiated by the Kremlin precisely to carry out this type of attack against key Western infrastructure.

From the Daily Telegraph:

Britain is dangerously exposed to Putin's hybrid war-machine
The Russians know that we lack the resources to properly defend our critical infrastructure

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/0 ... gniter-rhr

India to export Pinaka rocket launchers, ammunition to Armenia in $250m deal: Report
Edited By: C Krishnasai
New Delhi Updated: Sep 29, 2022, 07:01 PM(IST)
https://www.wionews.com/india-news/indi ... ort-520819

VLAD'S Z DAY Putin vows to use ‘any means’ to defend annexed Ukraine regions in new nuke threat after biggest land grab since WW2
Imogen Braddick
8:20 ET, Sep 30 2022Updated: 11:41 ET, Sep 30 2022
https://www.the-sun.com/news/6337530/pu ... e-russian/

Nuclear Worries Rise As Putin Declares Four Ukrainian Regions As Part Of Russia
By City A.M - Sep 30, 2022, 9:00 AM CDT
https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Intern ... ussia.html

5 minute readSeptember 30, 202211:18 AM EDTLast Updated 25 min ago
Putin proclaims annexation as Russian garrison surrounded in Ukraine
By Jonathan Landay
https://www.reuters.com/world/putin-hos ... 022-09-29/

LIVE
Updated
Sept. 30, 2022, 11:42 a.m. ET5 minutes ago
5 minutes ago
Russia-Ukraine War
Putin Frames Illegal Annexation as Part of Existential Battle With West
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/09/30 ... e-war-news

33 min ago
Russians Celebrate Annexation Outside Kremlin
By Alan Cullison
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia ... evKxA7BRwb

Nuclear War and Moral Sanity
In a spiritual and moral sense, the world's nuclear powers are the most underdeveloped nations—committed to maintaining power over, rather than power with, the rest of the planet.
ROBERT C. KOEHLER
September 29, 2022
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022 ... ral-sanity

What a nuclear attack in Ukraine might look like – an expert
By TOC On Sep 30, 2022
https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2022/09/3 ... an-expert/

Opinion: The most likely nuclear scenario
From CNN Opinion
Published 3:55 AM EDT, Wed September 28, 2022
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/28/opinions ... index.html

Putin’s tactical nuclear weapons can still level a city | READER COMMENTARY
For The Baltimore Sun
Sep 30, 2022 at 8:12 am
https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/re ... story.html

National Security
Is this how nuclear war starts?
By Jamie McIntyre, Senior Writer September 29, 2022 11:00 PM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rest ... war-starts


Magazine
WAR ROOM
Opinion | The Age of Predatory Nuclear-Weapon States Has Arrived
Putin’s nuclear threat marks the start of a new era.
Opinion by STEPHEN YOUNG
09/30/2022 04:30 AM EDT
Stephen Young is an advocate in the global security program at the Union of Concerned Scientists, where he focuses on reducing the threat of nuclear war.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... e-00059571

Friday September 30th, 2022

Yesterday I heard an analyst on TV give
the reasons why the pipeline sabotage
does not benefit Russia . The following
is my summary of what she said , based
on memory:

You have to separate oil from gas. Oil
can be delivered in different ways. Gas
requires pipelines, since LNG transport
is fairly limited.

You have to separate eastern gas from
western gas. Russia is 11 time zones
wide, so gas produced in the east can be
delivered to China over existing
pipelines.

But gas produced in the west has nowhere
to go if the pipelines to Europe cannot
be used. Instead, that gas will be
entirely dead to the market. (I can't
remember her exact phrase, but I recall
the word "dead".)

On Friday in Kabul, a massive explosion
blew up a Shia Hazara girls school. No
one has claimed credit, but it's most
likely to be ISIS-K. Whichever
terrorist group it was, there was no
obvious benefit to them except
notoriety.

It's by analogy to this that I reached
the personal conclusion that the
pertrators of the pipeline explosions
were environmental terrorists.

Against Natural Law: Russia’s annexation of Ukrainian territory
Posted on 30 September 2022 by Ron Conte
https://ronconte.com/2022/09/30/against ... territory/

5 minute readSeptember 30, 20225:03 PM EDTLast Updated 5 min ago
Defiant Putin proclaims Ukrainian annexation as military setback looms
By Jonathan Landay
https://www.reuters.com/world/putin-hos ... 022-09-29/



Putin’s Newest Annexation Is Dire for Russia Too
His baldly illegitimate claim to four Ukrainian provinces shows contempt for the global order—and his own subjects.
By Anne Applebaum
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... in/671607/

Putin illegally annexes Ukraine land; Kyiv seeks NATO entry
By JON GAMBRELL and HANNA ARHIROVA
an hour ago
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... 758c387933

What Russian annexation means for Ukraine's regions
By Paul Kirby
BBC News
Published
6 hours ago
comments
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63086767

Putin announces annexation of Ukrainian regions in defiance of international law
By Joshua Berlinger, Anna Chernova and Tim Lister, CNN
Updated 2:30 PM EDT, Fri September 30, 2022
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/30/europe/p ... ation-intl

Ukrainian Forces Move to Surround Russian Troops in Key City as Putin Lays Claim to Regions
By Jared MalsinFollow
| Photographs by Serhii Korovayny for The Wall Street Journal
Updated Sept. 30, 2022 4:43 pm ET
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-at ... 1664531345

Putin’s annexation speech: more angry taxi driver than head of state
Shaun Walker
Fri 30 Sep 2022 11.22 EDT
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... te-ukraine

Russia: Putin announces illegal annexation of four Ukrainian regions
https://www.dw.com/en/russia-putin-anno ... a-63292049

EUROPE POLITICS
Putin declares ‘four new regions of Russia’ as Moscow illegally annexes parts of Ukraine
PUBLISHED FRI, SEP 30 20228:30 AM EDTUPDATED FRI, SEP 30 202210:18 AM EDT
Sam Meredith
@SMEREDITH19
Holly Ellyatt
@HOLLYELLYATT
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/30/putin-d ... raine.html

Putin illegally annexes 4 occupied regions, escalating war as Ukraine applies to join NATO
Kyiv has vowed to keep fighting to retake its occupied land, and on Friday appeared on the verge of handing Russia’s military another significant setback.
Sept. 30, 2022, 6:24 AM EDT / Updated Sept. 30, 2022, 2:04 PM EDT
By Alexander Smith
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/puti ... -rcna50133

Ukraine Latest: Putin Says Four Regions’ Annexation Is ‘Forever’
Bloomberg News
Fri, September 30, 2022 at 4:05 PM·12 min read
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ukraine- ... 25488.html

3 minute readSeptember 30, 20227:15 AM EDTLast Updated 10 hours ago
Kremlin says any attack on annexed territory will be an attack on Russia
Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kr ... 022-09-30/

West ‘Doomed’: Putin Declares ‘Anti-Colonial’ War After Annexing Ukraine Oblasts
In perhaps his most fiery anti-Western speech following Russia’s supposed annexation of parts of Ukraine, Putin dramatically escalated his threats against Western influence.
By Paul D. Shinkman
Sept. 30, 2022, at 11:51 a.m.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world-repor ... ne-oblasts

Putin proclaims he's annexing four regions of Ukraine; U.S. slaps new sanctions on Russia: Live updates
Francesca Chambers
Kim Hjelmgaard
Michael Collins
USA TODAY
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 129099001/

WORLD
Russia's Putin announces annexation of 4 Ukraine regions despite global outcry over land grab blasted as illegal
UPDATED ON: SEPTEMBER 30, 2022 / 5:10 PM / CBS/AP
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-ru ... all-means/


RUSSIA’S WAR ON UKRAINE
Biden denounces Kremlin’s ‘phony’ move to annex Ukrainian territory
“We will rally the international community to both denounce these moves and to hold Russia accountable,” Biden said.
By KELLY HOOPER and BRYAN BENDER
09/30/2022 08:32 AM EDT
Updated: 09/30/2022 11:38 AM EDT
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/3 ... s-00059725

West condemns Russia’s ‘illegal’ annexation of Ukraine provinces
30 Sep 2022
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/3 ... -provinces

Putin annexes 4 regions of Ukraine after deadly missile strike kills 25 civilians
By Snejana Farberov
September 30, 2022 4:44am Updated
https://nypost.com/2022/09/30/russian-m ... 8-wounded/

VIEW LIVE COVERAGE FEED
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7 hours ago
Ukrainians Respond to Annexation With Mix of Ridicule, Fear
By Thomas Grove
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia ... l2XdWPENkT

Ukraine War: As It's Happening
The Moscow Times is collecting all the latest breaking news and developments in Russia's deadly attack on Ukraine.
Includes reporting from AFP.
Russia’s move to proclaim the annexation of four Ukrainian provinces has drawn prompt rebuttals by Western countries.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/ ... ing-a76553

John wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:43 pm On Friday in Kabul, a massive explosion blew up a Shia Hazara girls school. No one has claimed credit, but it's most likely to be ISIS-K. Whichever terrorist group it was, there was no obvious benefit to them except notoriety.

It's by analogy to this that I reached the personal conclusion that the pertrators of the pipeline explosions were environmental terrorists.

The recent terrorists in Kabul and acts of eco terrorism were not at all comparable technology wise to the Nord Stream bombings. Sure, even the smallest terrorists groups can hit an unhardened building on land, hurt a minority, or mail a bomb. There seems to be nothing - not even from the save the whale people - that deals with precision underwater attacks on hard targets. The more typical eco tactic is to hammer spikes into trees in hopes of ruining saws. Something that dumps a pollutant into the sea does not sound like an eco terrorist action. In fact, the leak of a lot of methane gas - a greenhouse pollutant - is of considerable environmental concern.

Granted, it still doesn’t make sense. Someone in Russia would have to want to blame someone else for the gas lack and make sure it was permanent. It would almost have to be Putin. Still scratching my head here.

John wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:43 pm
On Friday in Kabul, a massive explosion
blew up a Shia Hazara girls school. No
one has claimed credit, but it's most
likely to be ISIS-K. Whichever
terrorist group it was, there was no
obvious benefit to them except
notoriety.

It was probably Putin.

thomasglee wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:19 pm

John wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:43 pm
On Friday in Kabul, a massive explosion
blew up a Shia Hazara girls school. No
one has claimed credit, but it's most
likely to be ISIS-K. Whichever
terrorist group it was, there was no
obvious benefit to them except
notoriety.

It was probably Putin.

Wow. This is the first time I can recall Thomas telling a joke.

Friday, September 30, 2022

The path to World War III - this week

- Putin announces a mass mobilization

- Tens of thousands of young people
flee from Russia across the

- Putin announces sham referendums in
four Ukrainian regions

- The people in the four regions voted
(at gunpoint) by 98% margins to become
Russian citizens in the Russian
Federation

- India is shipping arms to Armenia,
putting Armenia clearly in Russia's
camp.

- Ukraine announced that it will apply
for Nato membership

- Putin signed documents making the
four regions officially part of the
Russian Federation.

- Putin announced that these regions
were now Russian territory, and any
attack on this would be met with the
harshest retaliation including,
possibly, nuclear retaliation.

- Putin ignored the fact that
Ukraine's army was already attacking
some of the regions. Zelenskyy
rejected the sham referendums and the
annexations, and vowed that the army
would not stop fighting until it had
driven the Russian army back inro
Russia.

- Leaders of America, Nato, Canada,
Britain, and the EU all rejected the
sham referendums and the annexations,
and vowed massive retaliation if even
one inch of Nato territory were
attacked.

Putin is cornered and desperate.
What will he do next?

John wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:34 pm

thomasglee wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:19 pm

John wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:43 pm
On Friday in Kabul, a massive explosion
blew up a Shia Hazara girls school. No
one has claimed credit, but it's most
likely to be ISIS-K. Whichever
terrorist group it was, there was no
obvious benefit to them except
notoriety.

It was probably Putin.

Wow. This is the first time I can recall Thomas telling a joke.

Haha and wouldn't it be nice if world news could become something of a faraway phenomenon again?