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An extremist group given aid by a power capable of such a deed? What's the evidence for an environmental group? Current forum debate is whether it was neocons. Both are dubious actors capable of horrifying deeds apparently.John wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:43 pm Friday September 30th, 2022
Yesterday I heard an analyst on TV give
the reasons why the pipeline sabotage
does not benefit Russia . The following
is my summary of what she said , based
on memory:
You have to separate oil from gas. Oil
can be delivered in different ways. Gas
requires pipelines, since LNG transport
is fairly limited.
You have to separate eastern gas from
western gas. Russia is 11 time zones
wide, so gas produced in the east can be
delivered to China over existing
pipelines.
But gas produced in the west has nowhere
to go if the pipelines to Europe cannot
be used. Instead, that gas will be
entirely dead to the market. (I can't
remember her exact phrase, but I recall
the word "dead".)
On Friday in Kabul, a massive explosion
blew up a Shia Hazara girls school. No
one has claimed credit, but it's most
likely to be ISIS-K. Whichever
terrorist group it was, there was no
obvious benefit to them except
notoriety.
It's by analogy to this that I reached
the personal conclusion that the
pertrators of the pipeline explosions
were environmental terrorists.
Shoshin posted this previously.thomasglee wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:08 pm Another interesting take on NS1/2.
https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/09/nordstream.html
https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/10/nord ... undit.html
Tom has a good heart and really puts himself out there. Sometimes he's right and sometimes not, but he's on team USA and wants to see it succeed.guest wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:05 amNo, it's not. It's a rant.thomasglee wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 3:50 amThat article does the best job of laying out the players and why or why not they would be responsible. The conclusion isn’t definitive but it is a good summary.Xeraphim1 wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:40 pm
If this is the best analysis you've found, you either haven't been looking anywhere or you have a bias that predisposes you to want to believe the conspiracy nuts. As a general rule, Zerohedge is populated by nuts and cranks. It's like reading the comment sections of Breitbart.
More plausible than a lot of the blame the state actor theories.thomasglee wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:08 pm Another interesting take on NS1/2.
https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/09/nordstream.html
https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/10/nord ... undit.html
Interesting posts. I suppose incompetence is about as likely for Russia as malice.thomasglee wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:08 pm Another interesting take on NS1/2.
https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/09/nordstream.html
https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/10/nord ... undit.html
Friend #5 said he's switching to whiskey.John wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:16 pmBut not multiple simultaneous explosions on two different pipelines.Guest wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:12 pmMultiple failures can happen because of poor construction.Bob Butler wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:23 pm
Not when it happens in multiple places at once. I think it has to be someone with considerable submarine capability.
thomasglee wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:08 pm
Another interesting take on NS1/2.
https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/09/nordstream.html
https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/10/nord ... undit.html
So, I was on the right track after all?
I suspect so. Another wrinkle is that if they don’t repair quickly, the pipes may be ruined? The rushed European effort to accept gas from ships looks to finish sooner than building new pipes from Russia. The delay would let Europe thumb their noses at buying from Russia. If Chernobyl contributed to the fall of the old USSR, the Nord Stream fiasco could end Putin’s attempt at autocratic expansionism. I suspect he needs to export gas more than Europe needs gas from Russia.
Apparently, CO2 runs a yearly cycle. There is a lot of demand for it to produce any drink that fizzes during the summer, made worse by global warming, but it might relax as the peak demand eases.