Financial topics

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gerald
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Reality Check wrote:
gerald wrote:
Why should employers pay for health care and retirement and not the employee?
Reality Check wrote:

Employers in the United States did so voluntarily.

The government encouraged it for the public good through tax deductibility of corporate payments for employee health care costs.
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Well not exactly -- government intervention again --


http://www.ebri.org/publications/facts/ ... a=0302fact

1943—War Labor Board rules wage freeze does not apply to fringe benefits.

During World War II, the number of persons with employment-based health insurance coverage started to increase for several reasons. When wages were frozen by the National War Labor Board and a shortage of workers occurred, employers sought ways to get around the wage controls in order to attract scarce workers, and offering health insurance was one option. Health insurance was an attractive means to recruit and retain workers during a labor shortage for two reasons: Unions supported employment-based health insurance, and workers' health benefits were not subject to income tax or Social Security payroll taxes, as were cash wages.

And lets not over look the government's debasement of the dollar and it's impact on society.

For example, my first full time job ( 40 hours a week and above minimum wage ) was in a factory in the mid 1960's my weekly take home pay after taxes and social security was $35 and some change. Those on the assembly line commuted to work, bought food and shelter and had a little left over for some entertainment. What will $35 buy you today?
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Employers do not pay taxes. Pass through cost to consumers.

md noted:

I was pondering this as well. Very hard to draw conclusions without these critical demographics doncha think? Personally, in my line of work, I see certain ethnic group represented in the majority of cases but this may not necessarily represent national trends.

I will say it is tragic to see these young people with some frightening diseases today rarely encountered even 10 years ago. Sometimes I hate going to work and seeing all of this day to day knowing I am powerless to stop it. end snip

The TAX called ACA is just another cartelized model. The looting will cease just as g alluded to. As in the other spin model it was a controlled implosion process.
As we noted some time back crime of the century. LITC model they tinkered with when we buried the frozen dead " with private capital" a decade before that.
It was noted correctly then at least three generations to heal the broken soul of that region.

http://gdxforum.com/forum/search.php?ke ... sf=msgonly
Fade to black, capital is fungible.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-1 ... time-highs

Government is paid for by the private sector period. Whether by borrowing money which sucks resources out of the bond market or by printing money which impoverishes private sector savers by keeping interest rates artificially depressed or by old-fashioned taxation, the government finances its spending by taking from the private sector. It is just that simple and the private market will vanish as will you when the tyrants control every facet since it is not moral hazard but moral ineptitude of voters.

https://cei.org/studies/ten-thousand-commandments-2014 i do not the time to explain what we are up against even at this level. The earlier capex was snuffed out as i noted the shift few even understand to this day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4RKdpjvvj4
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Election circus is over so the Kalifornicates neo serfs need a few heads from the EPA SWAT team leaderes as from the Gibsons guitar plant raids of lore.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-1 ... rors-were-
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But there was nothing anyone could do. Not the superpowers. Not the East German military. There was no coup. There was no rioting. The wall just fell.
There was a popular revolution in which the people in the streets imposed their views on the whole world. Mitterrand

Social Psychology and Human Nature, pg.437-438, by Roy Baumeister and Brad Bushman. Cengage Learning, 2011. ISBN 978-0-495-60133-3

http://gdxforum.com/forum/search.php?ke ... sf=msgonly modern portfolio theory thread

In the immortal words of former Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin, describing the country’s economic transition
of the 1990’s: “We hoped for the best, but things turned out as usual.”
gerald
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Ah --- The best laid plans of mice and men --- physics and nature have laws that are a little difficult to ignore

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... 7-14-33-47

HUGE SOLAR PLANT LAGS IN EARLY PRODUCTION

One of the reasons is as basic as it gets: The sun isn't shining as much as expected.

It had been projected to produce its full capacity for 8 hours a day, on average.

Operators initially expected to need steam from gas-powered boilers for an hour a day during startup. After operations began, they found they needed to keep boilers running more than four times longer - an average of 4 1/2 hours a day.

State energy regulators in August approved the plant's request to increase the natural gas it is allowed to burn by 60 percent.

It could take until 2018 for the plant backed by $1.6 billion in federal loan guarantees to hit its annual peak target,

When the $2.2 billion complex opened, Energy Department Secretary Ernest Moniz called it a "symbol of the exciting progress" in renewable energy.

hmmmmm
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good catch g

grid matrix reconfig was my thought ex post facto since the future was yesterday

meanwhile i enjoy his candor and interpetations on risk -- http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-1 ... -terrified --

to read carefully would be advised -

"tell me Mr. Anderson - what good is a phone call if you are unable to speak..."
Agent Smith

"and therefore the rise in stock prices is something that is likely to prevail for some time."
Hugh hendry
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x = http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.a ... Metternich

reference { { •,• } } Up to formal equivalence

As we discussed earlier here the no man status in relationship to Détente lingers and the inept kill switch we noted.
The swamp is still full and even then draining it was your focus now was it. Another domino has fallen imo.

http://biblehub.com/mark/2-22.htm
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Bucket of salt report http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Sorcha_Faal
forwards 269 dead girls as the border get crowded with material.

“tactical philosophy” of "whatever" appears to rise
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As each round of premium increases hits ACA will become a festering wound for the Dimmcrats.
Which is precisely why the Redpubs have no incentive to eliminate it.
Humana's stock price appreciation since 2010, up from $45 to $139 per share.
If that doesn't tell you who the law was written to benefit, I don't know what will.
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