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Reality Check
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"May you live in an interesting age..."

Old Chinese Curse ?
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Reality Check wrote:"May you live in an interesting age..."

Old Chinese Curse ?
I looked it up, it may not be Chinese --from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_li ... ting_times

“May you live in interesting times" is an English expression purporting to be a translation of a traditional Chinese curse. Despite being so common in English as to be known as "the Chinese curse", the saying is apocryphal and no actual Chinese source has ever been produced.[1] The nearest related Chinese expression is "宁为太平犬,莫做乱世人" (níng wéi tàipíng quǎn, mò zuò luànshì rén) which conveys the sense that it is "better to live as a dog in an era of peace than a man in times of war."
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I get up everyday (I'm 59) and bust my balls farming 1,100 acre with one part time hand. Most days are 14-18 hours. (not complaining, love the work). However...the Fucking USDA control all the prices we receive because of Goldman and the like manipulating Commodity Prices. All the lying sack of shit USDA Unicorn Reports keeping grains in check so the EBT folks can have cheap food. I go in every night with my asshole fucked raw by a bunch of paper pushers. and yes, I do actually produce something useable. I'm fucking sick of it.....this spring will drop $ 750,000K in the ground waiting to see if Goldman and UDSA will let me eek out a profit. We're all enslaved by the USDA....might as well be on a Chinese Collective Farm.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-2 ... nal-stages
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aedens wrote:I get up everyday (I'm 59) and bust my balls farming 1,100 acre with one part time hand. Most days are 14-18 hours. (not complaining, love the work). However...the Fucking USDA control all the prices we receive because of Goldman and the like manipulating Commodity Prices. All the lying sack of shit USDA Unicorn Reports keeping grains in check so the EBT folks can have cheap food. I go in every night with my asshole fucked raw by a bunch of paper pushers. and yes, I do actually produce something useable. I'm fucking sick of it.....this spring will drop $ 750,000K in the ground waiting to see if Goldman and UDSA will let me eek out a profit. We're all enslaved by the USDA....might as well be on a Chinese Collective Farm.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-2 ... nal-stages

Maybe the fall in oil prices will lower operating costs enough to make things better.
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John wrote:
aedens wrote:I get up everyday (I'm 59) and bust my balls farming 1,100 acre with one part time hand. Most days are 14-18 hours. (not complaining, love the work). However...the Fucking USDA control all the prices we receive because of Goldman and the like manipulating Commodity Prices. All the lying sack of shit USDA Unicorn Reports keeping grains in check so the EBT folks can have cheap food. I go in every night with my asshole fucked raw by a bunch of paper pushers. and yes, I do actually produce something useable. I'm fucking sick of it.....this spring will drop $ 750,000K in the ground waiting to see if Goldman and UDSA will let me eek out a profit. We're all enslaved by the USDA....might as well be on a Chinese Collective Farm.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-2 ... nal-stages

Maybe the fall in oil prices will lower operating costs enough to make things better.
That depends upon other input costs and especially commodity prices. For example #2 corn in 2012 at it's high was around $8 per bushel. Today #2 corn is around $4 per bushel. #2 corn is the base for such things as -- animal feed, human food, corn oil, corn syrup, ethanol, plastics, medications, etc. http://commodityhq.com/2012/13-ways-cor ... day-lives/ -- Today for a farmer to be successful ( generally speaking and having good land, water and climate ) requires a high level of sophistication, economy of scale and preferably NO debt.

For some perspective lets use the above farmer -- we don't know what he is growing or where -- but for a comparison exercise ---

$750,000 input /1,100 acres --( a decent size farm ) = $681 input cost per acre, assuming he is not counting real estate taxes and equipment costs. Lets compare this to an Iowa corn farm.

In Iowa, on a quality farm, input costs are around $480 per acre. Lets assume 180 bushels per acre harvest ( a good return for this above average year ) #2 corn at $4 per bushel = $720 less $480 input costs = $240 per acre, again not counting real estate taxes and equipment costs. Quality land is selling for around $12,000 + per acre. So not counting taxes and equipment costs and assuming his time is worth nothing this hypothetical Iowa farmer is getting around a 2% return. In spite of all of the risks with weather, pests etc.

hmmm
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$777 per acre in 2013 in Iowa for production. I will ask locally what tally forwards.
These old boys are never wrong either.
In 2012 many where in dire condition. We are talking large outfits.
Many know the other facets of our water, wheat and water views.

Other side of the coin to themes of collapse exist, 11 major ones (PS. Diamond has 5). 1) Depletion or cessation of vital
resources; 2) establishment of new resource base; 3) insurmountable catastrophe; 4) insufficient
response to circumstance; 5) other complex societies; 6) intruders; 7) class conflict, societal
contradictions, elite mismanagement; 8) social dysfunction; 9) mystical factors; 10) chance
concatenation of events; 11) economic factors. tainter

Human history is divided into three phases: (1)pre-industrial, (2)industrial, and (3)de-industrial.

water wheat weather is short hand from the notes here...

The bus drivers taking for the fsa army are indeed beyond clueless....

I pray all is well for in this season under His Sun with you all.
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Seized Syrian wells and Iraqi wells in Kirkuk at a price of $20 a barrel.
We already posted here the two next stops to the third as Childrens
heads affixed in public parks. I my self can only hope we are taken
and you can rejoice as we are not around to remind you what is actually
coming.

Maybe the fall in oil prices will lower operating costs enough to make things better.

I cannot say one way or the other what is defined good in this hour John.
Never will the light of day convey the fall upon the so called thinking people
of this Nation. Terminal veloscity would be a understatement. I consider the
actual political condition typical given the script.

http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... ray#p15019

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... -the-left/

The democrats are showing the normalcy bias that was always there and how truly unhinged they truly are.
As for the voter base attacks I recant nothing. They truly are jagged pill victom idiots.
As for these republicans who wish to punch us in the nose they know my address.

Anyways back on 09 as issues festered we noted http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... rder#p2765

This current construct in no accident. The effective facts are moral ineptitude and the actual costs of social silences.
This topic is already know as "how long".

"Two pounds of wheat for a day's wages, and six pounds of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"

Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:49 pm

I will look around that time as conveyed. I think the elements of cycles are more demanding than we all think. It reminds me of Job 38:35 Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go and say unto thee, Here we are? Today we can as we have just done with the Internet tonight. God asked Job 84 questions and he could not answer and it was not Jobs fault given the age of man condition's. Of the four people that gave him council they were related by blood to him and all the opinions to council Job was stone cold wrong. The point is there are conditions conveyed from his own family that were stone cold wrong. The point was attitude and conditions from the true Author. Nenner is a facinating person indeed and so is the day we live in. H, you are indeed a treasure in these days. Thanks

The block heads have a better grip on history than the dead heads here... http://worldcomplex.blogspot.ca/2010/08 ... ghana.html
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aedens wrote:$777 per acre in 2013 in Iowa for production. I will ask locally what tally forwards.
These old boys are never wrong either.
In 2012 many where in dire condition. We are talking large outfits.
Many know the other facets of our water, wheat and water views.

Other side of the coin to themes of collapse exist, 11 major ones (PS. Diamond has 5). 1) Depletion or cessation of vital
resources; 2) establishment of new resource base; 3) insurmountable catastrophe; 4) insufficient
response to circumstance; 5) other complex societies; 6) intruders; 7) class conflict, societal
contradictions, elite mismanagement; 8) social dysfunction; 9) mystical factors; 10) chance
concatenation of events; 11) economic factors. tainter

Human history is divided into three phases: (1)pre-industrial, (2)industrial, and (3)de-industrial.

water wheat weather is short hand from the notes here...

The bus drivers taking for the fsa army are indeed beyond clueless....

I pray all is well for in this season under His Sun with you all.
The $480 amount is a number I chose from the $450 to $500 per acre input average that was given to me from a farm management company in North Central Iowa for the 2014 crop year.

cheers
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That sounds responsible. The numbers seen are from increased seeds per acre increase.
We have seen this cycle before also when the fields do not breath they are ovecome with
smut. Kinda like the stuff between the ears of taxpayers when they live the narrative.
The proper amount spacing is crucial to the pattern you see developing. Yea, like we seen
and reported last year in these parts of this current pattern....
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http://classics.mit.edu/Antoninus/meditations.html

There are only two types of writers.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... -the-left/

The narrative is a spearate issue going forward. Business can bury mistakes as middle management

can not recall what is even was.

The right block asserts a stronger message will ensue as the left walk to another deck not under water yet.

Just smart enough to avoid facts and vapid enough to enjoy what it brings and not avoid number 10.
Number 10 - Meaning: Judgment of the establishment as the Ten Commandments and the 10th judgment in Egypt.

We fail to apply because of our arrogance. We fail to perceive because of our arrogance. We fail to apply because we either lack actual doctrine or lack the humility to believe it.

The whole subject is about Covenants, not testimony.

http://www.suspicious0bservers.org/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c4XPVPJwBY#t=32 eyes open no fear

more trees we need eh
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